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None taken. I'm just saying he was raw but somebody saw potential there and recruited him. It can be done with good coaching followup. Even Kelvin?

Good coaching but also individual accountability. The players have to want to get better and be willing to work for it.
 
None taken. I'm just saying he was raw but somebody saw potential there and recruited him. It can be done with good coaching followup. Even Kelvin?

Duncan surely wasn't raw. He may have been under recruited, most likely because where he was from, but he wasn't raw. He almost averaged a double double as a freshman. Raw players don't do that.

Duncan was so much better than Kelvin as a freshman. IMO, to take a raw player (again, not Duncan) and turn them into a very solid player they have to have good basketball iq. I don't think KMart was that raw as a freshman, but he still had a ways to go but you could just tell with him that he knew how to play the game. I thought Thabeet was the same way. He just seemed to know how to play the game even though his offensive skills were lacking. I'm not sure I see that in Kelvin. Of course I hope I'm wrong.
 
None taken. I'm just saying he was raw but somebody saw potential there and recruited him. It can be done with good coaching followup. Even Kelvin?

I think Kelvin has some good physical tools which gives him the potential to be a good rebounder and defensive player. He is actually the only big I've seen who can set a decent screen. But he hasn't played basketball long and his iq has a long way to go. This is evident in his rebounding positioning. But I think defensively he has good potential.
 
I think Kelvin has some good physical tools which gives him the potential to be a good rebounder and defensive player. He is actually the only big I've seen who can set a decent screen. But he hasn't played basketball long and his iq has a long way to go. This is evident in his rebounding positioning. But I think defensively he has good potential.

Somebody has to teach him! Who might that be?
 
I think Kelvin has some good physical tools which gives him the potential to be a good rebounder and defensive player. He is actually the only big I've seen who can set a decent screen. But he hasn't played basketball long and his iq has a long way to go. This is evident in his rebounding positioning. But I think defensively he has good potential.

I don't mean to be mean... But from what I've seen there aren't enough years of eligibility to really get this kid playing at that high of level.
 
I don't mean to be mean... But from what I've seen there aren't enough years of eligibility to really get this kid playing at that high of level.

You'd be surprised. Put him in a full summer intensive one-on-one training program with a good retired NBA big and see what happens. If they're not interested in an investment of that sort, just let them waste the money by giving more to Mick (as if he deserves it).
 
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