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Time for a new thread leaving the drama behind. Let's try to keep this one current/forward looking, and put opinions about the hire or what happened elsewhere.

It looks like assistant Chris LePore may be following Miller from UNCG. He was apparently responsible for recruiting and player development. A young guy who has been with Wes almost from the beginning. I'd like to see him fill out his staff with some high major/pro and local experience.
 
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sedziobs said:
Time for a new thread leaving the drama behind. Let's try to keep this one current/forward looking, and put opinions about the hire or what happened elsewhere.

It looks like assistant Chris LePore may be following Miller from UNCG. He was apparently responsible for recruiting and player development. A young guy who has been with Wes almost from the beginning. I'd like to see him fill out his staff with some high major/pro and local experience.
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I’d like a uc guy on staff but I get it if not. You want guys you know and he might not know them. I’ve seen nothing but positives about the guy. Hard not to get excited
 
Does Wes have anybody he can bring with him?


Keyshaun Langley will be a Jr. 34.5% 3 point shooter his first 2 years on 267 attempts. Classified as a scoring PG. 23.1 assist rate and 18.5 TOrate. Projected to be a 3.2 PRPG! guys next year.

Mohammed Abdulsalam is a 6'9 23.7 DR and 15.4 OR guy.

Jarrett Hensley was a 4 star recruit from last year. 6-7 stretch 4. Didn't play much or play that well as a freshman.
 
cincrulz11 said:
Does Wes have anybody he can bring with him?


Keyshaun Langley will be a Jr. 34.5% 3 point shooter his first 2 years on 267 attempts. Classified as a scoring PG. 23.1 assist rate and 18.5 TOrate. Projected to be a 3.2 PRPG! guys next year.

Mohammed Abdulsalam is a 6'9 23.7 DR and 15.4 OR guy.

Jarrett Hensley was a 4 star recruit from last year. 6-7 stretch 4. Didn't play much or play that well as a freshman.
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Isaiah Miller is his claim to fame. He entered draft but could follow him to improve draft status. If Isaiah doesn’t follow or McMillan/rayvon don’t commit this hire was weak
 
TheRealMick said:
Isaiah Miller is his claim to fame. He entered draft but could follow him to improve draft status. If Isaiah doesn’t follow or McMillan/rayvon don’t commit this hire was weak
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If he could get Miller here and get his usage back down to around 25 instead of 35-37 where its been the last 2 years that would be a great move.


Isaiah Miller has one of my favorite stats from last year, and its the fact that he took 258 midrange shots all by himself. Nobody on the roster could shoot, so he must have been forced into them by sagging defenders.
 
cincrulz11 said:
If he could get Miller here and get his usage back down to around 25 instead of 35-37 where its been the last 2 years that would be a great move.


Isaiah Miller has one of my favorite stats from last year, and its the fact that he took 258 midrange shots all by himself. Nobody on the roster could shoot, so he must have been forced into them by sagging defenders.
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He’s at his best when other studs put around him. Might want call up Keith Williams see if come back. Him and Miller would be one of best backcourt in college
 
Here's a full game of the SoCo tournament final (Mercer vs UNCG) from this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHC48BiOFZQ&ab_channel=TimeforBasketball

My notes.

Defense:
The good: They play a very switch heavy man-to-man, sometimes it morphs into a zone. At times it starts to look a bit like Cronin's matchup zone. They play tight to the man with the ball pretty much everywhere on the court. Have a lot of smaller guards who pressure their man hard (Saunders would fit in). Do pretty well at stopping backcuts. The pressure seems to cause a lot of mistakes. They collapse hard on the ball when it gets into the interior. Draw a fair number of charges.

The bad: Big men aren't the most athletic, probably a product of what Miller could get at UNCG. Getting them switched onto a small guy leads to problems. Like we saw with Cronin, if you're going to run a system that regularly gets your big switched onto a guard, your big better be an elite athlete (like Tari). They are somewhat vulnerable to the drive and kick because of how hard they collapse the paint. Overall very good on defense.

Offense:
The good: They attack early and then pull it out if nothing is there. Get good shots early when the defense isn't fully set. Big men (and others) crash the boards hard. Drive-and-kick offense. Get a lot of good shots early in the shot clock. A lot of guys who can drive the ball. Get a fair number of open looks from three. Run the offense through their best player (Miller).

The bad: Take a lot of bad quick trigger threes. Shot selection (especially in the middle of the shot clock) is not very good. Big men aren't very skilled on the interior. Ball doesn't move all that fast. Late shot clock execution not all that impressive. Don't shoot (even open shots) particularly well from three.
 
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What are the expectations for Miller over the next 5 years?

For me,

Year one: just win some games and play hard.

Year two: Be at least .500 and play hard.

Year 3: Be an NIT/borderline NCAA team.

Year 4: Make the NCAA (or be very close).

Year 5 and beyond: NCAA tournaments every year.

I also want to see him improve his offense. It's not as bad as it looks on paper. Getting shooters will help him out quite a bit. Does need to improve team shot selection and late shot clock execution.
 
cincrulz11 said:
How many Vogt nightmares are you gonna have after watching Koval?
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Koval was already a grad transfer, so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't use the bonus year. If he does and comes here, I can deal with it. He's just a one year rental guy and somewhat more athletic than Vogt (though not athletic enough for the AAC). My biggest nightmare material may be Lakhin, but will wait to see how he looks on the court (if he even stays on the team) and how much he plays before I worry too much.
 
Interesting note looking over his recruiting.


MAW had an offer from him back in 2019.


He also had 0 recruits signed for 2021.
 
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skyblade said:
The good: ... Get a fair number of open looks from three.

The bad: ... Don't shoot (even open shots) particularly well from three.
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This is encouraging to me. Based on their terrible assist numbers, I assumed poor shooting was due to bad offensive schemes. But if they are getting open looks and just missing them, better players alone should go a long way to better offensive efficiency.
 
sedziobs said:
This is encouraging to me. Based on their terrible assist numbers, I assumed poor shooting was due to bad offensive schemes. But if they are getting open looks and just missing them, better players alone should go a long way to better offensive efficiency.
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I watched some highlights from that same game and there is a lot of movement and cutting in the offense. Some good off ball screening and such.


But I just saw stuff from the first half. Maybe they go full iso ball in the 2nd half, because somehow Miller ended up with a 35.2 usage rate.
 
Looks like he is trying to add Mike Roberts to the staff who coached under him for a bit before leaving to go to Indians the last 2 years.

Would imagine that guy can recruit some.

If he lands him he already leap frogged John Brannen’s busted ass staff
 
sedziobs said:
This is encouraging to me. Based on their terrible assist numbers, I assumed poor shooting was due to bad offensive schemes. But if they are getting open looks and just missing them, better players alone should go a long way to better offensive efficiency.
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Yep Mason Madsen Finna splash on em.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Looks like he is trying to add Mike Roberts to the staff who coached under him for a bit before leaving to go to Indians the last 2 years.

Would imagine that guy can recruit some.
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you mention our last guy every single post.



If he can get a guy familiar with the area thats a plus. Also if Mike Roberts was the lead recruiting for the Moeller guy, I wouldn't mind having an in there.
 

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