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GarradJ21

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Cincinnati Vs. Tulsa
Thursday at 7PM
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This somehow just became a must win lol. Coming into this year I figured we might drop a few that we normally don't like a game @ Tulsa. Now it's a feeling of we better win this game after our performance against ECU.

Side Note: We are all huge Ole Miss fans tonight.
 
Tulsa is one of the toughest teams in the league to play on the road. They haven't lost at home since January 13, 2018.

During our last visit there two seasons ago, we needed a Troy Caupain jumper in the final seconds to eek out a 57-55 win.

Tulsa like ECU, doesn't have a lot of size but their front court players Igbanu and especially Jeffries are going to give our guys all they can handle.

We're much more talented than them at the guard positions as I think they're the only team in the league that doesn't have a guard/wing player averaging double digit scoring.

I think we're going to be in for another rock fight and I don't think there can be a win too ugly for us tomorrow.
 
Queens_NYC said:
Tulsa is one of the toughest teams in the league to play on the road. They haven't lost at home since January 13, 2018.

During our last visit there two seasons ago, we needed a Troy Caupain jumper in the final seconds to eek out a 57-55 win.

Tulsa like ECU, doesn't have a lot of size but their front court players Igbanu and especially Jeffries are going to give our guys all they can handle.

We're much more talented than them at the guard positions as I think they're the only team in the league that doesn't have a guard/wing player averaging double digit scoring.

I think we're going to be in for another rock fight and I don't think there can be a win too ugly for us tomorrow.
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I agree a lot with that last part about ugly wins. I don’t think any road game from here on out I wouldn’t take a 1 point win.
 
We are 12 of 59 from three in our losses for about 20%. I think it goes without saying our chances on the road in conference improve dramatically if we can knock down 1 of 3 from deep.

Interesting note is that Fredericks is 7-15 since the first 4 games where he was 0-7.

Moore is 2 for his last 11 so he hasn't fixed anything. Cane is 0 for his last 14 covering his last 8 games. Scott hasn't made one since the 3rd game. Williams is 0 for his last 6 and banked 2 in against UCLA. Johnson hasn't attempted one in 6 games or made one in his last 7 games.

I don't think we can expect Cumberland and Jenifer to hold their lofty % so we need someone to pick up the slack in a hurry.
 
A week ago I would have penciled this in as win. Thought they might struggle, but would still pull it out. Now, I'm not sure. I wouldn't be surprised if they lose and wouldn't be surprised if they win comfortably. But likely it will be a nail biter decided in the last couple of minutes. Hoping for a much better shooting effort than the last time. Threes not falling are one thing, but free throws are a whole different matter.
 
waterhead said:
We are 12 of 59 from three in our losses for about 20%. I think it goes without saying our chances on the road in conference improve dramatically if we can knock down 1 of 3 from deep.

Interesting note is that Fredericks is 7-15 since the first 4 games where he was 0-7.

Moore is 2 for his last 11 so he hasn't fixed anything. Cane is 0 for his last 14 covering his last 8 games. Scott hasn't made one since the 3rd game. Williams is 0 for his last 6 and banked 2 in against UCLA. Johnson hasn't attempted one in 6 games or made one in his last 7 games.

I don't think we can expect Cumberland and Jenifer to hold their lofty % so we need someone to pick up the slack in a hurry.
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Wow that is eye opening with the 3 ball. Guys gotta start knocking down shots. Good for Fredericks.
 
beeman7467 said:
A week ago I would have penciled this in as win. Thought they might struggle, but would still pull it out. Now, I'm not sure. I wouldn't be surprised if they lose and wouldn't be surprised if they win comfortably. But likely it will be a nail biter decided in the last couple of minutes. Hoping for a much better shooting effort than the last time. Threes not falling are one thing, but free throws are a whole different matter.
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On the season our FT's would tie for first as far as a % in the Cronin era. Our 3% is 2nd but Cumberland and Jenifer are carrying the team in 3%. I am not as worried about the FT's...we will have some games like that here and there.

The 3's scare me because our supporting cast sucks so far and I would expect Jenifer and Cumberland to cool a bit over time.
 
GarradJ21 said:
Wow that is eye opening with the 3 ball. Guys gotta start knocking down shots. Good for Fredericks.
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did anyone expect them to be a good 3 point shooting team? or even an average shooting team? I think Cumberland is, Jennifer has been this year. Other than that, i trust trust anyone to make them constantly. There is a good possibility they aren't a good shooting team
 
cincyguy13 said:
did anyone expect them to be a good 3 point shooting team? or even an average shooting team? I think Cumberland is, Jennifer has been this year. Other than that, i trust trust anyone to make them constantly. There is a good possibility they aren't a good shooting team
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i dont think anybody thought we'd shoot them well. it was a concern most of us had coming into the year.


we should expect cumberland and jenifer to shoot lower than 47%, but we should expect broome and moore to shoot higher than what they have.



the problem is cumberland and jenifer will shoot a lot more than broome or moore.


28% seems fair for keith and 18% seems fair for scott.




edit: not really a problem cumberland and jenifer will shoot more, they are better shooters.
 
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cincyguy13 said:
did anyone expect them to be a good 3 point shooting team? or even an average shooting team? I think Cumberland is, Jennifer has been this year. Other than that, i trust trust anyone to make them constantly. There is a good possibility they aren't a good shooting team
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Cumberland and Jenifer are shooting about 10 points above where I thought. But Broome and Moore are far below. Thankfully the volume is going to the right guys but that’s probably out of necessity right now than by choice.
 
im just not sure jenifer can pass up that wide open 3, instead he quick passed it to keith in the corner, but keith isn't a shooter.
 
this is the type of defense i figured we'd see a lot this year. let anybody but cumberland shoot a 3. we can't get suckered into shooting a lot of them.




our defense has been really active. gotta keep these turnovers up.
 
Jarron got baited he’s gotta know to just walk away, he’s the best player in the conference he has to know teams are gonna try to get in his head, he has to handle that better
 
its a good thing tulsa has only made 3 shots in 13 minutes. half our shots can't be 3's for us to be successful.
 

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