UCF

[jacobkdoyle]

Game is Tuesday at 7 on CBS Sports Network

 

[Queens_NYC]

First 6 AAC Games w/ Tacko Fall (3-3)

54.33 ppg scored
50.17 ppg allowed

Last 4 AAC Games w/o Tacko Fall (2-2)

67 ppg scored
70 ppg allowed

 

[jacobkdoyle]

First 6 AAC Games w/ Tacko Fall (3-3)

54.33 ppg scored
50.17 ppg allowed

Last 4 AAC Games w/o Tacko Fall (2-2)

67 ppg scored
70 ppg allowed

Whoa that's a big difference.

 

[Alum2013]

That is absurd the difference he makes both offensively and defensively for them. One aspect in a good way and the other in bad.
Without Fall I don't see us having any problem taking care of them and would be disappointed if we didn't win by more then 10.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

We split with them last year. No way can we allow them to get in our way.

 

[Jon Rycek]

We split with them last year. No way can we allow them to get in our way.

There is absolutely no way we struggle with them in this game. I could care less about BJ, Fall was the one who gave us issues. This could end up being like the Memphis game in Cincinnati. Cats should win by 20.

 

[waterhead]

There is absolutely no way we struggle with them in this game. I could care less about BJ, Fall was the one who gave us issues. This could end up being like the Memphis game in Cincinnati. Cats should win by 20.

70-50 sounds about right to me

 

[justinhub2003]

There is absolutely no way we struggle with them in this game. I could care less about BJ, Fall was the one who gave us issues. This could end up being like the Memphis game in Cincinnati. Cats should win by 20.

Its easy to only think Tacko is who gave us fits, but when they beat us last year, they scored only 53 points and BJ Taylor scored 27 of them. He carried them offensively and when he gets hot he can carry his team for a long stretch.


I still think we win by a good margin, but they can still play good defense with out tacko, its just I think they switched philosophy when he got hurt and they got their best offensive player back.

I think its maybe 72-58.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

77-49

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Wasn't UCF borderline Top 75 in KenPom before Tacko Fall got hurt? They're #100 now.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Would be nice to get Clark, Cumberland, and Evans some rest. Coach mentioned Clark and Cumberland being a little banged up lately. And Evans has played all but 1 minute the last 2 games. I know he can easily play 40 but that doesn't mean it's ideal.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I just don't think UCF has the players to come into our house and hang. We can make things really uncomfortable for them and we always keep our foot on the gas at home. The bench guys seem to show up too. Coach said Williams has been looking good in practice lately. Maybe he gets a little run.

 

[sedziobs]

Wasn't UCF borderline Top 75 in KenPom before Tacko Fall got hurt? They're #100 now.

They were 78 when they played us. 65 the game before that.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Want to head into the conference tourney undefeated in league. This is another step in that direction. I don't consider any games gimme's. Need to be ready and focused.

 

[GarradJ21]

Would be nice to get Clark, Cumberland, and Evans some rest. Coach mentioned Clark and Cumberland being a little banged up lately. And Evans has played all but 1 minute the last 2 games. I know he can easily play 40 but that doesn't mean it's ideal.

Agreed. I don't want this all catching up with them like it did SK. We need some rest. Keith is capable of coming in for Jake even in bigger games I think it's important to keep Jake no more than 36 MPG against higher quality opponents and 30 MPG lesser quality like UCF.

We will have no problem with this team. This is basically just an average normal team without Tacko. The reason I feel we have struggled in the past and lost to them is because Tacko just the way he effects the game.

I think it will be UC - 15, but we win by 20+

 

[waterhead]

Want to head into the conference tourney undefeated in league. This is another step in that direction. I don't consider any games gimme's. Need to be ready and focused.

I agree. We have a huge target on our back home and away. We are undefeated in conference (and top 10 ranked) and the nation's longest home win streak.

Which team is not going to want to spoil either of those?

 

[GarradJ21]

Only chance we lose at home would be to WSU. These other 3 games will be easy IMO.

 

[waterhead]

Agreed. I don't want this all catching up with them like it did SK. We need some rest. Keith is capable of coming in for Jake even in bigger games I think it's important to keep Jake no more than 36 MPG against higher quality opponents and 30 MPG lesser quality like UCF.

We will have no problem with this team. This is basically just an average normal team without Tacko. The reason I feel we have struggled in the past and lost to them is because Tacko just the way he effects the game.

I think it will be UC - 15, but we win by 20+

My biggest reason for getting players out of the game is not rest...it's injury. If we are up a significant amount...get them out so they can't twist an ankle.

I am wondering if there is some sort of evidence that SK hit a wall or something. I mean he average 22.2 points in his last 5 games of his SR year. Which included tourneys.

Even our highest mpg average players over the last 2 years aren't hitting in the top 20 in conference in mpg. Why do we need the rest? I imagine the best players on all teams are used in a big way and I haven't seen any reports done that show a gradual reduction in production because of fatigue. Maybe there is one...IDK.

Why do our players need so much rest? Is there a stat we can point to that shows reduced productivity? My personal opinion is that adrenaline will get you where you need to go when it matters. When I think back over the years all I hear about is big players play big in big games...and most of those are going to be in March. And they do usually perform. But they have ALSO been used heavily all season.

I am wondering if the in season rest theory is bunk? What is the evidence to show we need to rest our best guys?

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Clark has a sore ankle.

Cumberland has 2 sore ankles and a hurt wrist.

Evans has played 79 out of the last 80 minutes.

That's the reason.

 

[Defense first]

My biggest reason for getting players out of the game is not rest...it's injury. If we are up a significant amount...get them out so they can't twist an ankle.

I am wondering if there is some sort of evidence that SK hit a wall or something. I mean he average 22.2 points in his last 5 games of his SR year. Which included tourneys.

Even our highest mpg average players over the last 2 years aren't hitting in the top 20 in conference in mpg. Why do we need the rest? I imagine the best players on all teams are used in a big way and I haven't seen any reports done that show a gradual reduction in production because of fatigue. Maybe there is one...IDK.

Why do our players need so much rest? Is there a stat we can point to that shows reduced productivity? My personal opinion is that adrenaline will get you where you need to go when it matters. When I think back over the years all I hear about is big players play big in big games...and most of those are going to be in March. And they do usually perform. But they have ALSO been used heavily all season.

I am wondering if the in season rest theory is bunk? What is the evidence to show we need to rest our best guys?

As long as we keep winning it doesn't matter how long each player plays. Now in the tournament, conference and NCAA will be a different story. Coach keeps saying he has to keep his guys fresh physically and mentally. Gives other guys big minutes in big situations just in case of foul trouble in tournament guys on bench won't be over there head.