I'm not going to rewatch the game. If you say that I can't refute it. Seems you got that info pretty quick, but whatever. I've stated my position more than enough and I stand by my point that Cane can be defended rather easily if he's going to take it upon himself to score and furthermore stand by my opinion in knowing that Mick would never allow this offense. He wants Gary and Kyle and Evans and Cumberland involved in the offense and for good reason. He runs the offense through the bigs and kick out to shooters. Cane has shown to be a better set shooter than he has finishing in traffic. Would anyone on here other than you argue that?
I don't disagree with that but Wichita was scoring at will on Washington and Nsoseme actually seemed to curb that. We had 40 at halftime and down 2 while they shot 60 percent. Offense wasn't really the issue. Wichita State defends shots well but didn't play aggressive on defense which opened up the dribble drive and passing lanes. We were going to win with guard play yesterday. Givin a team like Wichita State open look after open look is a recipe for disaster. Kyle, Evans at times and Jenifer were allowing that. Kyle and Jenifer got the bench.
Cane came in and made a really dumb mistake and rightly or wrongly didn't get back in.
I don't disagree with that, in fact my posts have said he needs to be utilized to be an open shooter. Unfortunately we stalled the ball vs. Houston and gave into what the gave us. We had 7 assists and weren't passing the ball. There was no inside out game. Zero. Cane came in and made a really dumb mistake and rightly or wrongly didn't get back in. I said after the game he deserved more minutes and the chance to do something. You guys think cause I'm critical of him I seem to think he's garbage. Far from it. I just like to play devils advocate for two reasons. One to stimulate conversation and two I don't see the same thing out of Cane most do. He's not strong enough and hasn't figured out what he can't do enough to not make mistakes enough at this level to carry a team. And his game most people drool over simply isn't practical on this team. He needs to be a set shooter more, defend aggressively, drive and dish when defenses play off him and he needs to clean up his lazy passes and read defenses better to know where the passing lanes will be and wont. He gets in trouble when the defense collapses on him and he doesn't have an easy bail out. And most times this year he hasn't. (Outside of his transition game.)
I just think Broome is clearly a better alternative than anything else we can go to. So I'd rather live with his mistakes than live with mistakes from a guy who can't do anything to make up for them.
it only took a couple minutes. load the replay up on espn, find the game log, find the plays cane scored on, find them in the replay, see what happened.
i put the time of each half so you could go look yourself by just skipping forward in the replay.
and cane is shooting 64.6% at the rim this year. jake is at 67.2%, cumberland is at 59.4%, justin is 50%, keith is 56.1%.
that foul came with 10 minutes left in the game. to use that as the reason he didn't play is silliness.
I just think Broome is clearly a better alternative than anything else we can go to. So I'd rather live with his mistakes than live with mistakes from a guy who can't do anything to make up for them.
you looked up plays he scored, did you look up plays where maybe he overpenetrated or missed a shot? Really it wasn't 3 of 4 then. It was 3 successful scoring trips.
he only missed 3 shots. his first jumper of the game, a 3, and the blocked shot. so yes it really was 3 of 4.
he wasn't in there over penetrating and getting into trouble. his 2 turnovers came off a slip when he fell, and a push off from an out of bounds play.
dont know what else you want. his strength as a player is penetrating and finishing. he did it yesterday, he did it vs florida, he did it vs xavier.
he's actually not a good jump shooter outside of that spot he seems to love from straight on. his 2 point jumpers are very bad.
he only missed 3 shots. his first jumper of the game, a 3, and the blocked shot. so yes it really was 3 of 4.
he wasn't in there over penetrating and getting into trouble. his 2 turnovers came off a slip when he fell, and a push off from an out of bounds play.
dont know what else you want. his strength as a player is penetrating and finishing. he did it yesterday, he did it vs florida, he did it vs xavier.
he's actually not a good jump shooter outside of that spot he seems to love from straight on. his 2 point jumpers are very bad.
I agree Cane is very good at getting layups. He went over Morris twice I think...one of the best shot blockers in the conference. But he's been getting to the rack all year with pretty good success. That doesn't mean he can be successful every time but who in the hell is requiring that?
He's maybe not great at the second level...but that's not where he's going to earn his keep.
i really think the ankle held him back a lot more than maybe we thought it did. the same explosion hasn't really been there in conference play.
but boy was it there yesterday
He looked very healthy and energized out there. Fully engaged! If he shows that hustle and focus in the rest of the games...he needs to play 30+.
He was not only making plays...he was getting the crowd emotionally charged up. He was excited and confident. Did he make any bad decisions? Sure. But they were from aggression and not passiveness. He went 1 on 4 on one play and I am sure he would like to get that one back....but that happens when you play at lightning speed...you get caught in the air without a bailout sometimes. The trick is to limit that stuff and I think he has.
The upside is off the charts! The downside is probably a 50-50 wash (in plus minus) with good and bad plays.
I like Justin also, mainly because he is a bearcat, however your post is right on. He doesn't create anything at all for anybody. Vs good teams it's very important cane gets there start. Villanova is 6deep most years and they have no problem. UC however doesn't necessarily have the individual players they do, and we need more bodies to press, something has to give. Washington and cane for some reason are on the shortest leashes. Let Jennifer sub out cane for minutes at the point, time to switch it up.Imagine what the score might have looked like if we didn't have Cane against WSU? I don't think Justin is bad...he just doesn't move the needle. I actually think Justin is solid and safe.
In general...Justin gets the ball to the other 4 guys to make plays but he doesn't CREATE assists or points. His assists don't come because he creates them. If he swings the ball from left to right and someone makes a shot...that is an assist but it's not because he made it happen. In the open court he does a pretty good job of running the break...but again...those assists are not from him creating the opportunity. Cane creates opportunity and he also creates shots for himself.
Imagine what the score might have looked like if we didn't have Cane against WSU? I don't think Justin is bad...he just doesn't move the needle. I actually think Justin is solid and safe.
In general...Justin gets the ball to the other 4 guys to make plays but he doesn't CREATE assists or points. His assists don't come because he creates them. If he swings the ball from left to right and someone makes a shot...that is an assist but it's not because he made it happen. In the open court he does a pretty good job of running the break...but again...those assists are not from him creating the opportunity. Cane creates opportunity and he also creates shots for himself.
In the biggest games Cane has come to play. 16 vs X, 15 vs FL, 9 pts 3 asts vs UCLA and 16 vs WSU, all in 28 mins or less of PT.
Yah...but wouldn't it be better to keep that scoring punch coming off the bench? I mean that 6th man stuff is important right? It works against the best teams right? It doesn't matter who starts but who finishes right? Don't fix it if it ain't broke right?
Can we try one f-ing god damn experiment please? Put the 5 most talented guys on the court to start the game and then sub accordingly? Pretty Please??
You mean like subbing out the guy who scored all of our points within 3min of the game? The players aren't always the problem for these losses and I think people are just finally starting to realize that somehow.