Interesting Stats

[waterhead]

I thought it might be fun to create a thread to post interesting stats when you find them. Player related, team related, coach related etc.

Example...Jenifer is #2 in the country in assist to turnover ratio only to Galen Robinson at Houston.

(Speaking of Houston) I inadvertently clicked on NBA link first and guess who I saw at the top? Gary Clark. LOL)


So I was looking at our history as a team under Cronin for 3% (on the T-Rank page). Most years are between 32.8 and 34.8. There were 3 years outside of that range. Last year was his best shooting team at 35.3% which gave us a lofty rank of 147th in the country. His worst was 2010 at 29.1% and 2013 was 31.6%.

This year we are at 34.8% which would tie for his 2nd best shooting team if that % holds. I would expect it to become harder not easier...but then again we started off missing shots I would normally expect us to make early on.

 

[GarradJ21]

I thought it might be fun to create a thread to post interesting stats when you find them. Player related, team related, coach related etc.

Example...Jenifer is #2 in the country in assist to turnover ratio only to Galen Robinson at Houston.

(Speaking of Houston) I inadvertently clicked on NBA link first and guess who I saw at the top? Gary Clark. LOL)


So I was looking at our history as a team under Cronin for 3% (on the T-Rank page). Most years are between 32.8 and 34.8. There were 3 years outside of that range. Last year was his best shooting team at 35.3% which gave us a lofty rank of 147th in the country. His worst was 2010 at 29.1% and 2013 was 31.6%.

This year we are at 34.8% which would tie for his 2nd best shooting team if that % holds. I would expect it to become harder not easier...but then again we started off missing shots I would normally expect us to make early on.

That is interesting. Going off the eye test alone I think many of us are blinded and spoiled by the two years prior to this one. Really, this team is good and can do work. I mean not top 15 caliber but def. 20 to 30 range IMO. I still would take this team over Kilpatrick's senior year as this has been discussed in other threads. Glad we are coming together.

Going back to my comment of noting being a top 15 team, maybe I am wrong, because SK's senior year we reached the point to #7 in the country. All-in-all rankings depend on whose hot at that time and who just lost and won.

 

[Queens_NYC]

Cumberland currently has the highest usage percentage in the AAC at 34.8%. The next highest is Quinton Rose at 31.3%.

 

[cincrulz11]

our 3 point % will probably go down, teams will play better defense and cumberland and jenifer will likely see their percents go down from here (especially cumberland and he shoots twice as many as anybody)



KW is probably about his realistic percentage, and broome is closer to his career average this year than he was last year.



if im other teams i would still only guard cumberland from deep and i'd expect his percent to fall back down to the 34-37% range.

 

[waterhead]

I agree it's not going to get any easier. I would guess we might finish around 33% as a team.

Our volume shooters should be around 35% + or they shouldn't be volume shooters. Cumberland, Cane, and maybe Jenifer. The rest need to make over 30% and it would be nice to see Moore or Fredericks move into a volume role (2-3 attempts per game). I think Williams needs to limit his attempts like he has been as well as Scott and Johnson.

I haven't lost hope in Moore just yet and Fredericks seems to be gaining some confidence.

 

[mdchick]

Cumberland is going to be taking a lot of shots at the end of the shot clock that he will have to force up because he is the fail safe of this offense, so his % isn’t really going to tell you much honestly you can’t compare his 25 foot contested jumper with 2 seconds left on the shot clock to a brooks uncontested put-back dunk

 

[waterhead]

Per the T-rank site...(Barttorvik)

We haven't lost a Quadrant 2, 3, or 4 game in the previous 2 seasons. We haven't lost a quad 3 or 4 game in 3 years. That is extremely consistent in games we are a decent favorite to win.

OSU is on the border of 1 and 2. UNLV is on the border of 2 and 3

 

[waterhead]

Cumberland currently has the highest usage percentage in the AAC at 34.8%. The next highest is Quinton Rose at 31.3%.

Not only can he score but he is such a good passer as well. He does have high turnovers so far but it would be hard to take the ball out of his hands. He commands a lot of attention so it opens a lot of other things up when he has the ball.

Cronin has often said your best scorer is usually your best passer as well

 

[cincrulz11]

Not only can he score but he is such a good passer as well. He does have high turnovers so far but it would be hard to take the ball out of his hands. He commands a lot of attention so it opens a lot of other things up when he has the ball.

Cronin has often said your best scorer is usually your best passer as well

jarron's turnovers are usually lazy. its definitely not a lack of talent, but sometimes he has no business trying a pass but he just wings it anyway. i dont know if its laziness or a lack of focus, but he's been like this his entire career.

 

[waterhead]

jarron's turnovers are usually lazy. its definitely not a lack of talent, but sometimes he has no business trying a pass but he just wings it anyway. i dont know if its laziness or a lack of focus, but he's been like this his entire career.

He does get caught in the air a lot

 

[waterhead]

I took a look at some team categories to get an essential idea of who we are as a program under Cronin in terms of different (on court) stats. I threw out stats from his first 4 years and this year. I also took out the highest and lowest number in each category for the remaining 8 years.

So the 8 years used were basically all of his tourney years and I think that has been a pretty solid consistent snapshot of who we are under him. I looked at Barttorvik page to see where we ranked in each category (on average).

ADJO...70th
ADJD...13th

TO%...60th
TO%D...69th

OR%...15th
DR%...170th

FT%...242nd
2%...178th
3%...190th

Obviously we have always been pretty horrible at shooting. Our ADJO looks much better (I guess because of offensive rebounds). We will always be great at D and OR. I would have guessed our TO% rank would rank higher with the amount of emphasis Cronin puts on it. Overall not a lot of surprises except for the TO category

 

[david aka the TYZ]

jarron's turnovers are usually lazy. its definitely not a lack of talent, but sometimes he has no business trying a pass but he just wings it anyway. i dont know if its laziness or a lack of focus, but he's been like this his entire career.

Arguing laziness and lack of focus is arguing semantics somewhat as they're almost the same problem. But he definitely suffers from both at times. Cronin called him out after one of the games for it. He definitely seems too cool for school out there sometimes. It's almost like hes not expecting the defense to defend at times.

 

[sedziobs]

Charlotte has the highest free throw percentage in the country. Their opponents have the 2nd highest percentage in the country. That's incredibly unlikely to happen by random chance, but here we are. Maybe they moved the free throw line up 10 feet.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

Charlotte has the highest free throw percentage in the country. Their opponents have the 2nd highest percentage in the country. That's incredibly unlikely to happen by random chance, but here we are. Maybe they moved the free throw line up 10 feet.

Maybe all the batteries and coins their fans throw onto the court creates a vacuum that sucks the ball into the rim.....

I miss hating Charlotte and their fans

 

[ervins84]

So... Coming into this year our last G-Score (Barttorvik stat measuring team performance on a 0-100 scale) game below 50 was 12/22/16 when UC squeaked out an OT win vs Marshall.

The Ohio State game was a 47 and Milwaukee was a 44. This probably helps explain the feeling a lot of us had of "Wow. We look really bad." Since then, every game has been between an 89 and 99.

 

[AZ BEARCAT]

Maybe all the batteries and coins their fans throw onto the court creates a vacuum that sucks the ball into the rim.....

I miss hating Charlotte and their fans

What was the kids name that blew kisses to his wife ? too funny.

 

[Cin City]

What was the kids name that blew kisses to his wife ? too funny.

Diego Guevara...now a real estate agent in Charlotte. Had to look up how to spell his last name. Dude works for Keller Williams...so if anyone is in the market for a house...

 

[waterhead]

So... Coming into this year our last G-Score (Barttorvik stat measuring team performance on a 0-100 scale) game below 50 was 12/22/16 when UC squeaked out an OT win vs Marshall.

The Ohio State game was a 47 and Milwaukee was a 44. This probably helps explain the feeling a lot of us had of "Wow. We look really bad." Since then, every game has been between an 89 and 99.

I don't know what the equations of the G-score are exactly but I assume it has something to do with actual performance vs expected performance in some fashion.

I would agree the first 3 games I was thinking this was going to be a long year. I expected we would start off slow and be inconsistent all year but how far we have come since that stretch is a bigger difference than I thought was possible at that point in time.

I haven't really felt nervous as a fan about the outcome of a game (while they were playing) since then although UNLV was pushing it. The emergence of Williams has been probably the biggest factor...but the production of Brooks and Scott has surprised me too. I still don't feel comfortable with the bigs in terms of what they can produce in the paint against better bigs. But then again I don't think we need much more than a baby hook or two and some easy put backs from Brooks...and Scott is showing defenses you can't ignore his shooting ability.

 

[cincyguy13]

I took a look at some team categories to get an essential idea of who we are as a program under Cronin in terms of different (on court) stats. I threw out stats from his first 4 years and this year. I also took out the highest and lowest number in each category for the remaining 8 years.

So the 8 years used were basically all of his tourney years and I think that has been a pretty solid consistent snapshot of who we are under him. I looked at Barttorvik page to see where we ranked in each category (on average).

ADJO...70th
ADJD...13th

TO%...60th
TO%D...69th

OR%...15th
DR%...170th

FT%...242nd
2%...178th
3%...190th

Obviously we have always been pretty horrible at shooting. Our ADJO looks much better (I guess because of offensive rebounds). We will always be great at D and OR. I would have guessed our TO% rank would rank higher with the amount of emphasis Cronin puts on it. Overall not a lot of surprises except for the TO category

Can someone explain why cronin never seems to emphasis shooting in recruiting? I still can’t figure it out. His iso/post style offense would improve drastically with good shooting but we are always looking for shooting. I don’t understand it.

 

[cincrulz11]

Can someone explain why cronin never seems to emphasis shooting in recruiting? I still can’t figure it out. His iso/post style offense would improve drastically with good shooting but we are always looking for shooting. I don’t understand it.

he looks for guys that fit his scheme on defense first. im sure if he felt guys could fit into that and were great shooters that he'd welcome them with open arms.