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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    It also could have been some quick due diligence Ono was doing on him. Some coaches have mentioned before that they stopped recruiting guys based on posts they make on Facebook and Twitter. Ono could have gone in, made sure there was nothing tasteless/offensive and then unfollowed because he...
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    i apologize that i contributed to dragging that out. i should have just stopped responding a while ago.
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    that is fine. this started because i asked you if you seen them play- that is all. i didnt ask if you have seen videos or juco rankings because we all have looked at those numerous times now. an easy no would have sufficed. also, i have never mentioned gary clark or the competition he...
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    These guys have been JUCO coaches for 7 and 9 years respectively and yes they are surrounded by coaches who have been around much longer. guys talk in that circuit and stories and opinions are shared. i apologize that the opinion of veteran juco coaches on chris jones isn't good enough for...
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    rubles, mbodj, toyloy, hyrcaniuk all struggled. you are right- rubles did some good things his first year. he is one of my favorite players in UC history because of the toughness he displayed this year. but he struggled last year. he shot 33% and averaged 2 turnovers a game. yes, he led the...
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    i asked some poster in the original comment a few pages back if they had seen deberry and graham play because that person declared that deberry and graham were "ready to play college basketball right now." that person had never seen them play, so i tried to caution against declaring jucos as...
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    again, when did i say flop? you guys can twist what i am saying however you want. people are anointing these guys as starters. all i said was they tend to struggle their first year at uc. but if you want to continue to twist my argument into things i did not say, be my guest.
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    3 jucos. crowder, djo, butler.
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    when did i come remotely close to saying I wouldn't take them or a juco for that matter? again, i am just trying to temper expectations. i never said anything near "i wouldn't take graham or deberry." people are just anointing these guys as starters and no one has seen them play. that is...
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    2014 Spring Recruiting

    smu will be the preseason favorite in the AAC next year without turner. if they get them they will have a very strong base of talent.
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    …..i guess you forget how much heat Titus took on this board and from fans in general in 2012-13. williamson was good- i will give you that. congrats, you found an exception. he also, however, was playing on a team that had no other alternatives for playing time, especially when Hernol Hall...
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    i never said they didn't. i just originally asked if you had seen them play- and you haven't. juco talent isn't what it was 20 years and historically they all have significantly struggled in their first year under cronin. guys who don't guard won't see significant minutes. we don't know if...
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    okay so the answer is no. highlight video's of Graham dunking while at Word of God Academy or stat lines from DeBerry when he likely was being guarded by an extremely undersized center don't mean you have seen them. keep in mind that Graham was the 4th option on his team at Chipola at the end...
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    Torian Graham 2014 JUCO SG

    have you actually seen DeBerry or Graham play? how do you even know this?
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    '14 NJ C Quadri Moore (Commit)

    I think you are missing my point. The past 5 years, one player has had a year preserved for some reason or another. That is all I am saying. I have repeatedly acknowledged that all redshirts are not created equal. That is not what I am arguing. Whether a voluntary or involuntary redshirt...
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    '14 NJ C Quadri Moore (Commit)

    Cronin did want Morman to redshirt prior to the injury. The final decision is always on the player as xlax said before - and while the decision was being pondered he got injured. Shaq sat out a season due to qualification issues and was allowed to practice with the team for most (but not all)...
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    2014 Spring Recruiting

    Carlino is from Arizona actually. He committed to IU when he was like a freshman or sophomore in high school and moved to Bloomington when he was 17 after already committed to IU. Then while a senior he decommitted from IU and went to UCLA. He then transferred from UCLA to BYU.
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    2014 Spring Recruiting

    need 3 centers? many college basketball teams now play with zero centers. uc might have been leaner than most teams on the front line with everyone weight 225 or less - but plenty of teams out there are starting 6'7" type who are bulky or long athletic types as their only true post player...
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    '14 NJ C Quadri Moore (Commit)

    No, he would never do that now. The point that people are trying to make is that look at the past 5 years. Every year someone has preserved a year of eligibility for some reason. You cannot play 13 guys, let alone 12. Playing 11 players and giving them all MEANINGFUL minutes is even...
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    '14 NJ C Quadri Moore (Commit)

    UC could barely find Kevin Johnson any playing time this year. How could they possibly have added another guy into that mix and found time for both? Playing 6 guys on the perimeter and giving them all meaningful minutes is really difficult. And you think they could have played 7? One of them...
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