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'13 NY PF Jermaine Lawrence (Commit)
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It is a fallicy that me and Mick are one and the same. I do not know much about computer technology but it seems to me the mods would have a way to check if someone had 2 accounts.
I personally believe Mick is a second account of The LivingLegend. Raplh is the only screen name I have ever used on this website.
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back to Jermaine.....
Apologizing for the long post in advance but this is what ESPN RecruitingNation believe abouit Jermaine...
Senior power forward Jermaine Lawrence (Springfield Gardens, N.Y./Pope John XXIII) is a tough one to figure out. On the court, the No. 19-ranked player in the ESPN 100 has physical gifts and versatility that make him a tantalizing prospect, but durability and consistency have been concerns.
And on the recruiting trail, he's been equally hard to read. Will he stick close to home and choose St. John's? Will he be enticed by the glitz and glamor of Vegas and pick UNLV? Or will he be loyal to the program that has recruited him the longest and hardest and commit to Cincinnati?
Luckily, our RecruitingNation basketball experts are here to try and make sense of it all. Here's how they think Lawrence's recruitment will play out, complete with what makes him special, improvement for the next level, freshman projections in college, decision factors and predictions on what school he'll choose.
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Dave Telep/ESPN.comESPN 100 PF Jermaine Lawrence is down to UNLV, St John's and Cincinnati.
Dave Telep
What makes him special: His combination of size, athleticism, and the ability to run the floor and excel in the transition game is a factor.
Improvement for next level: Consistency. We rated him aggressively early, knowing what he could become as this unfolds. Now he has to go out and deliver consistent performances to the level of his ability.
Freshman projection: For a Top 25-caliber team, he's a guy who can come off the bench and be a major contributor or start depending on the team's personnel.
Decision factors: At this point, the process has taken a long time with some twists and turns. It looks to me like he wants to be a Big East guy.
Prediction: St. John's
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Paul Biancardi
What makes him special: He possesses a combination of scoring skills and athletic ability. He's a fluid athlete who is fast yet graceful with the ball.
Improvement for next level: First, he must improve his overall body strength. Second, he must learn to play through bumps in games and become more durable. He misses too many games because he is not able to handle the physicality of the game.
Freshman projection: He displays the talent and athletic ability to contribute, but it will all depend on the work he does in the weight room during the summer before he enrolls.
Decision factors: He'll have to decide between staying close to home and playing in front of family and friends or breaking away from the nest.
Prediction: St. John's
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Reggie Rankin
What makes him special: Lawrence is a combination of great length, athletic ability and rapidly improving skill. He plays above the rim on the break with flair and is a matchup nightmare for most power forwards because of his ability to post up or knock down shots from the mid-range area out to the arc.
Improvement for next level: Lawrence must continue to add strength and make his capable motor a more consistent weapon. Skill-wise, he needs to make more scoring moves off the bounce.
Freshman projection: He'll earn playing time immediately because of his athleticism and shooting ability. He should be a capable starter with an immediate impact at the power forward position.
Decision factors: Lawrence must determine if he wants play for hometown St. John's or take his show on the road to another Big East power in Cincinnati or out West to UNLV. Factors include playing time at both forward positions, continued player development to aid him in getting to the next level and ability to win immediately. The instant success of freshman power forward Anthony Bennett at UNLV is likely to gain his attention as well.
Prediction: St. John's
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Adam Finkelstein
What makes him special: He's long and athletic with the ability to score in all three ranges.
Improvement for next level: He's been so plagued by injuries that he needs to address his durability and prove he can get through the physicality of the college season without missing time.
Freshman projection: If he's healthy, he'll have the opportunity to make an immediate impact in the scoring column given his tools to put points on the board in transition or the half-court set.
Decision factors: Right now he's weighing a chance to stay close to home, head out to the bright lights of Vegas or stay loyal to the program that has recruited him the hardest.
Prediction: St. John's
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Joel Francisco
What makes him special: Lawrence has a terrific combination of elite athleticism, versatility and budding skills for the power forward position at the next level.
Improvement for next level: He needs to continue to find ways to impact the game when the ball is not in his hands.
Freshman projection: Lawrence has the frame, bounce and skill to start as a freshman. He can convert buckets in a number of ways, especially in transition.
Decision factors: He has former AAU teammate and friend Savon Goodman at UNLV. St. John's has struggled this season, making it a must for Steve Lavin to snag this local stud. Cincinnati, however, appears to be out in front, though Lawrence is taking his visit to St. John's this month.
Prediction: Cincinnati
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John Stovall
What makes him special: Versatility. He has great size and nice skill and will be a matchup problem in college when his motor is running.
Improvement for next level: He needs to improve his outside shooting and consistency.
Freshman projection: He should be an immediate contributor.
Decision factors: Good question. Lawrence has been hard to read.
Prediction: Cincinnati
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Mike LaPlante
What makes him special: This kid is an elite athlete with great size and work ethic.
Improvement for next level: He has improved his half-court skill level in the low post, but because of injury he has missed out on some development during his senior year.
Freshman projection: He'll impact with his energy and should be an instant force by running, rebounding and blocking shots.
Decision factors: Does he want to try to shine in the Big Apple, the bright lights of Vegas or take his talents to Cincy? Could staying close to home end up as the deciding factor in his final decision?
Prediction: St. John's
Senior power forward Jermaine Lawrence (Springfield Gardens, N.Y./Pope John XXIII) is a tough one to figure out. On the court, the No. 19-ranked player in the ESPN 100 has physical gifts and versatility that make him a tantalizing prospect, but durability and consistency have been concerns.
And on the recruiting trail, he's been equally hard to read. Will he stick close to home and choose St. John's? Will he be enticed by the glitz and glamor of Vegas and pick UNLV? Or will he be loyal to the program that has recruited him the longest and hardest and commit to Cincinnati?
Luckily, our RecruitingNation basketball experts are here to try and make sense of it all. Here's how they think Lawrence's recruitment will play out, complete with what makes him special, improvement for the next level, freshman projections in college, decision factors and predictions on what school he'll choose.
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Dave Telep/ESPN.comESPN 100 PF Jermaine Lawrence is down to UNLV, St John's and Cincinnati.
Dave Telep
What makes him special: His combination of size, athleticism, and the ability to run the floor and excel in the transition game is a factor.
Improvement for next level: Consistency. We rated him aggressively early, knowing what he could become as this unfolds. Now he has to go out and deliver consistent performances to the level of his ability.
Freshman projection: For a Top 25-caliber team, he's a guy who can come off the bench and be a major contributor or start depending on the team's personnel.
Decision factors: At this point, the process has taken a long time with some twists and turns. It looks to me like he wants to be a Big East guy.
Prediction: St. John's
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Paul Biancardi
What makes him special: He possesses a combination of scoring skills and athletic ability. He's a fluid athlete who is fast yet graceful with the ball.
Improvement for next level: First, he must improve his overall body strength. Second, he must learn to play through bumps in games and become more durable. He misses too many games because he is not able to handle the physicality of the game.
Freshman projection: He displays the talent and athletic ability to contribute, but it will all depend on the work he does in the weight room during the summer before he enrolls.
Decision factors: He'll have to decide between staying close to home and playing in front of family and friends or breaking away from the nest.
Prediction: St. John's
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Reggie Rankin
What makes him special: Lawrence is a combination of great length, athletic ability and rapidly improving skill. He plays above the rim on the break with flair and is a matchup nightmare for most power forwards because of his ability to post up or knock down shots from the mid-range area out to the arc.
Improvement for next level: Lawrence must continue to add strength and make his capable motor a more consistent weapon. Skill-wise, he needs to make more scoring moves off the bounce.
Freshman projection: He'll earn playing time immediately because of his athleticism and shooting ability. He should be a capable starter with an immediate impact at the power forward position.
Decision factors: Lawrence must determine if he wants play for hometown St. John's or take his show on the road to another Big East power in Cincinnati or out West to UNLV. Factors include playing time at both forward positions, continued player development to aid him in getting to the next level and ability to win immediately. The instant success of freshman power forward Anthony Bennett at UNLV is likely to gain his attention as well.
Prediction: St. John's
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Adam Finkelstein
What makes him special: He's long and athletic with the ability to score in all three ranges.
Improvement for next level: He's been so plagued by injuries that he needs to address his durability and prove he can get through the physicality of the college season without missing time.
Freshman projection: If he's healthy, he'll have the opportunity to make an immediate impact in the scoring column given his tools to put points on the board in transition or the half-court set.
Decision factors: Right now he's weighing a chance to stay close to home, head out to the bright lights of Vegas or stay loyal to the program that has recruited him the hardest.
Prediction: St. John's
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Joel Francisco
What makes him special: Lawrence has a terrific combination of elite athleticism, versatility and budding skills for the power forward position at the next level.
Improvement for next level: He needs to continue to find ways to impact the game when the ball is not in his hands.
Freshman projection: Lawrence has the frame, bounce and skill to start as a freshman. He can convert buckets in a number of ways, especially in transition.
Decision factors: He has former AAU teammate and friend Savon Goodman at UNLV. St. John's has struggled this season, making it a must for Steve Lavin to snag this local stud. Cincinnati, however, appears to be out in front, though Lawrence is taking his visit to St. John's this month.
Prediction: Cincinnati
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John Stovall
What makes him special: Versatility. He has great size and nice skill and will be a matchup problem in college when his motor is running.
Improvement for next level: He needs to improve his outside shooting and consistency.
Freshman projection: He should be an immediate contributor.
Decision factors: Good question. Lawrence has been hard to read.
Prediction: Cincinnati
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Mike LaPlante
What makes him special: This kid is an elite athlete with great size and work ethic.
Improvement for next level: He has improved his half-court skill level in the low post, but because of injury he has missed out on some development during his senior year.
Freshman projection: He'll impact with his energy and should be an instant force by running, rebounding and blocking shots.
Decision factors: Does he want to try to shine in the Big Apple, the bright lights of Vegas or take his talents to Cincy? Could staying close to home end up as the deciding factor in his final decision?
Prediction: St. John's
Interesting article...the comment about durability was interesting as was the coming off the bench comment...after losing to SJU, I have convinced myself the Lawrence is headed to SJU in efforts to prevent disappointment...as most, I really want this kid to play for UC...I picture him in Cronin's offense at the top of the key like Gates always found himself with the ball...Lawrence (from write-ups and stories) sounds like he could relish in the position to have the ball in his hands as often a Gates or Mbodj...I still believe he will go to SJU, but really hope I am wrong...
I was curious, because I do not have access or people "in the know", has Lawrence ever crossed paths with Strickland or Caupin?...i am pretty sure that i read that Lawrence commented on picturing himself playing along side the bigs at SJU...so I am curious if he is aware of Strickland's game/potential...
I was curious, because I do not have access or people "in the know", has Lawrence ever crossed paths with Strickland or Caupin?...i am pretty sure that i read that Lawrence commented on picturing himself playing along side the bigs at SJU...so I am curious if he is aware of Strickland's game/potential...
If Lawrence wants to play on the biggest stage of all, the NCAA Tournament, UC has been to consecutive Sweet Sixteens and easily makes the tournament again this year. SJU will be on the bubble and continues to fail under Lavin, even with all the great recruits he's getting.
Lawrence' career and exposure would be better served coming to UC, where he would garner instant minutes on team going places.
And getting away from home is a good thing in terms of reducing pressure. Ask Yancy Gates.
Lawrence' career and exposure would be better served coming to UC, where he would garner instant minutes on team going places.
And getting away from home is a good thing in terms of reducing pressure. Ask Yancy Gates.
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fyi UC has not made it to consecutive sweet sixteens....the point though remains that SJU will be a struggle year in year out to make the tourny. Especially if their younger guys keep leaving early.
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Do you mean they haven't currently? Or ever? UC made the FF in '92 and EE in '93...
He clearly did not mean ever
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indeed
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As I have stated on here many times, signing Lawrance would be a huge get for the Cats. A few factors recruits OF HIS ABILITY consider when deciding on a program.
1. Playing time
2. The ability to place people on the next level (NBA)
3. Supporting cast. Good players make each other look good and having good players to practice against advances his game.
4. Good Coach
5. Good Academics
6. Good fan base
7. Relationship with the staff through the recruiting process.
8. Location
I'm sure I left some things out. The fact we are still in the hunt leads me to believe Savino has done a great job selling our program. If it was a slam dunk for SJ he would have already announced. Some of the points above we do well in, some we are OK in and some we need to do better. Should be a interesting couple of weeks. I still rate our chances 50/50 with SJ and the longer it goes the better I like our chances.
1. Playing time
2. The ability to place people on the next level (NBA)
3. Supporting cast. Good players make each other look good and having good players to practice against advances his game.
4. Good Coach
5. Good Academics
6. Good fan base
7. Relationship with the staff through the recruiting process.
8. Location
I'm sure I left some things out. The fact we are still in the hunt leads me to believe Savino has done a great job selling our program. If it was a slam dunk for SJ he would have already announced. Some of the points above we do well in, some we are OK in and some we need to do better. Should be a interesting couple of weeks. I still rate our chances 50/50 with SJ and the longer it goes the better I like our chances.
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I agree on the chances being 50/50.
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Jeff, with the relationship he seems to have with Savino I think we got a shot. If he wasn't serious about us I think he would be up front and tell Coach. Not drag this out. The pull to stay local is huge and SJ's has some good pieces in place. Don't seem like he is afraid to leave home if he was considering UNLV. We certainly have a shot.
Mick and Co. have been recruiting him for about 2-3 years now. Probably not what hes thinking but if I was a high school prospect that would mean something to me. I would also have to look at the schools overall basketball program. St. Johns has been a bubble team for the past few years and looks like they will be one this year. UC has continued to get better every year under Mick and will continue to get better. I know staying home to play in front of friends/family is also a factor but given UCs current state he can do that when we play in the BE tourney in MSG. There are many other factors that Im not going into but I still believe he chooses UC.
P.S. I may be a bit biased though
P.S. I may be a bit biased though
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I think the fact Mick and Co. have been recruiting him for so long and have built a relationship with him is a big reason why we are in the running. SJ's is building a very nice program with a lot of young talent. What they have done the last few years has little bearing In my opinion. If they land him with the young talent they have now they will be dangerous. They will be young, fast and athletic. They play a run and gun style most kids love and are in his back yard. We will be losing 3 seniors and possibly SK . If he choses us it will be because he has a very good relationship with our staff and it would obviously mean something to him.
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Jeff, do you still rate us at 50/50? Is he visiting SJ's this weekend?Other boards are mixed on our chances. Has Bendel given his opinion?
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I think UC has as good a chance as anybody, including St. Johns, of landing him. He could surprise people and land at UNLV but I think that is least likely. "If" he goes to St. Johns I think it will have a whole lot to do with staying close to home, and honestly who can blame him. Savino and Mick have done a great job recruiting him. I think anyone that knows the relationship he has with the UC staff believes if he signs with UC it certainly won't be an "upset" for lack of a better word.
