2015 Football Season

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Bearcat_NTS said:
Pencil them in for 9-4 with a bowl loss to a 6-6 P5 team. Like clockwork.
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I'll take that. If you can go 9-4 consistently and keep the same coach, then that is good enough to keep us in the running for getting out of the AAC. Couple that with our solid basketball team, we have just as good of a chance as anyone else to move up. We don't need TT to go undefeated every year, we just need stability and he has provided that so far. His in game coaching tactics are questionable at times and I wish he would recruit a little bit better, but he is a known commodity.
 
JumpinJack5 said:
I'll take that. If you can go 9-4 consistently and keep the same coach, then that is good enough to keep us in the running for getting out of the AAC. Couple that with our solid basketball team, we have just as good of a chance as anyone else to move up. We don't need TT to go undefeated every year, we just need stability and he has provided that so far. His in game coaching tactics are questionable at times and I wish he would recruit a little bit better, but he is a known commodity.
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LOL!! In the ACC or SEC maybe. In the American where most teams are in the bottom 50 of FBS only winning 9 games doesn't mean much. Tubs has already been blown out by 4-8 Illinois, 6-6 UNC, 6-6 Miami-Fl, 6-6 Virginia Tech and Memphis at home. That lets me know this is at best a 4 or 5 win team in P5 conference where UC aspires to be. Tubs has 18 wins in his two season and only 3 of them were against even average FBS teams (Houstonx2 and ECU) and UC almost blew all three of those games. Tubs has effectively killed the UC football program, just no one knows it yet.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
LOL!! In the ACC or SEC maybe. In the American where most teams are in the bottom 50 of FBS only winning 9 games doesn't mean much. Tubs has already been blown out by 4-8 Illinois, 6-6 UNC, 6-6 Miami-Fl, 6-6 Virginia Tech and Memphis at home. That lets me know this is at best a 4 or 5 win team in P5 conference where UC aspires to be. Tubs has 18 wins in his two season and only 3 of them were against even average FBS teams (Houstonx2 and ECU) and UC almost blew all three of those games. Tubs has effectively killed the UC football program, just no one knows it yet.
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Attendance has remained steady and even increased in 2013. We made major improvements to Nippert. We have a coach who has gone undefeated at an SEC school before and he consistently makes bowl games. We are going to be at the top of our conference and a top candidate to leave the AAC if a spot opens up. And yes, we might be a 4-5 win team in the P5, but that is because we have AAC talent. Give Tubbs a few years and we would win 8-9 games in a P5 as well. I have no clue why you are so hard on Tubbs....he isn't the greatest, but he has stopped the endless cycles of coaches that used us as a stepping stone. I'll take it. We also gave your favorite team, O$U, a pretty good fight last year. It was a close game until the last quarter, which is impressive with the talent gap.
 
JumpinJack5 said:
Attendance has remained steady and even increased in 2013. We made major improvements to Nippert. We have a coach who has gone undefeated at an SEC school before and he consistently makes bowl games. We are going to be at the top of our conference and a top candidate to leave the AAC if a spot opens up. And yes, we might be a 4-5 win team in the P5, but that is because we have AAC talent. Give Tubbs a few years and we would win 8-9 games in a P5 as well. I have no clue why you are so hard on Tubbs....he isn't the greatest, but he has stopped the endless cycles of coaches that used us as a stepping stone. I'll take it. We also gave your favorite team, O$U, a pretty good fight last year. It was a close game until the last quarter, which is impressive with the talent gap.
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It was a close game for 2 quarters. UC had a lot of fluke offensive plays in that game. They had ZERO chance stopping Ohio State, giving up over 700 yards and a school record for first downs. OSU could have picked their score in that one.

As for Tubs, I don't like him because he is an awful in game coach and has made several head scratching decisions. I am still praying that somehow Brian Kelly gets fired at Notre Dame in the next few years and comes back!
 
Yeah unfortunately we can't all have 100,000+ stadiums and unlimited $$$$$$. Sooooo we settle for Tubberville who has not done great, but he hasn't been terrible either. I'll take Nippert over 99% of the stadiums out there. We are going in the right direction and this year will be exciting with all our receivers and Kiel coming back. Defense needs work, but we have a ton of new defensive players coming off their redshirt season ready to contribute. No need to bring up that douchey Leprechaun in South Bend...
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
It was a close game for 2 quarters. UC had a lot of fluke offensive plays in that game. They had ZERO chance stopping Ohio State, giving up over 700 yards and a school record for first downs. OSU could have picked their score in that one.

As for Tubs, I don't like him because he is an awful in game coach and has made several head scratching decisions. I am still praying that somehow Brian Kelly gets fired at Notre Dame in the next few years and comes back!
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You can't say we had a bunch of fluke plays on offense and then credit OSU with 700 yards. Gunner Kiel and Chris Moore shredded the OSU secondary. They were a pretty bad defensive team at that point too.
 
Cataclysmo said:
You can't say we had a bunch of fluke plays on offense and then credit OSU with 700 yards. Gunner Kiel and Chris Moore shredded the OSU secondary. They were a pretty bad defensive team at that point too.
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Cincinnati had 422 yards of total offense and got 221 yards on just 3 plays. To me 52% of your offense on 3 plays is a fluke. OSU was methodically marching down the field whenever they wanted to. Nearly 42 minutes of possession, and over 100 plays ran. That is called a BEAT DOWN in my eyes.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Cincinnati had 422 yards of total offense and got 221 yards on just 3 plays. To me 52% of your offense on 3 plays is a fluke. OSU was methodically marching down the field whenever they wanted to. Nearly 42 minutes of possession, and over 100 plays ran. That is called a BEAT DOWN in my eyes.
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Brian Kelly's 2009 team made a living off big plays. They even got criticized for scoring TOO QUICKLY. Even if you think it's a fluke, there's no question that good offenses seem to have a lot more "fluke"s fall in their favor. There were a lot of problems with the team last year, but you are looking in the wrong place for them.

I'm so tired of hearing arguments that consist of "well if you take away X, and then pretend that play Y didn't happen, and then ignore Z number of completions". Luck is inherently built into the game. Now, if the OSU game was the only point in the season where Gunner put up big numbers, then sure, maybe it was a fluke. But he was playing well for the vast majority of the season. OSUs secondary was not playing well at that point in the season, our offense took advantage.
 
Cataclysmo said:
Brian Kelly's 2009 team made a living off big plays. They even got criticized for scoring TOO QUICKLY. Even if you think it's a fluke, there's no question that good offenses seem to have a lot more "fluke"s fall in their favor. There were a lot of problems with the team last year, but you are looking in the wrong place for them.

I'm so tired of hearing arguments that consist of "well if you take away X, and then pretend that play Y didn't happen, and then ignore Z number of completions". Luck is inherently built into the game. Now, if the OSU game was the only point in the season where Gunner put up big numbers, then sure, maybe it was a fluke. But he was playing well for the vast majority of the season. OSUs secondary was not playing well at that point in the season, our offense took advantage.
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Give it up. UC scored three long touchdowns on broken plays. They couldn't put together a complete drive otherwise. Their D-Line was overpowering UC. No competition in terms of talent. UC hasn't even had a player DRAFTED in two years. 9-4 season in a terrible conference incoming...
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Give it up. UC scored three long touchdowns on broken plays. They couldn't put together a complete drive otherwise. Their D-Line was overpowering UC. No competition in terms of talent. UC hasn't even had a player DRAFTED in two years. 9-4 season in a terrible conference incoming...
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A broken play here and there should never be confused with a good offense. In that regard, you are correct. But 3 broken plays in ONE GAME...come on...Gunner and the rest of the offense put themselves in position for those plays.

Was Christian Laettner's shot a fluke? Sure. Was it a coincidence that the player who sunk that shot also happened to be the best player on the floor? No. I get that you are an OSU fan, but you have to give credit where it is due.

If you're not willing to admit that, then fine, let's assume all those numbers are the result of broken plays. OSU had all those draft picks and talent, yet they still gave up 200 yards of offense on 3 plays. From your perspective, the 2015 National Champions must have really been inept in the secondary.
 
Cataclysmo said:
A broken play here and there should never be confused with a good offense. In that regard, you are correct. But 3 broken plays in ONE GAME...come on...Gunner and the rest of the offense put themselves in position for those plays.

Was Christian Laettner's shot a fluke? Sure. Was it a coincidence that the player who sunk that shot also happened to be the best player on the floor? No. I get that you are an OSU fan, but you have to give credit where it is due.

If you're not willing to admit that, then fine, let's assume all those numbers are the result of broken plays. OSU had all those draft picks and talent, yet they still gave up 200 yards of offense on 3 plays. From your perspective, the 2015 National Champions must have really been inept in the secondary.
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They had a weak secondary, correct. Still won the National Title without much of a struggle.
 
BearcatSpaniard513 said:
Yeah one of those OSU football fans and UC bball fans from when both teams were 1 in the country. He was probably a Heat fan a few years back as well
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I'm not an OSU football fan, I do however like high quality football of which UC does not put out. I stopped being a fan after they got Tuberville. That guy is a VERY mediocre coach. No sense in waiting time/money watching that crap product.
 
Cataclysmo said:
Just as fluke plays should not be confused with good offense, ad hominem attacks should not be confused with a valid argument.
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Hahaha! Read that post. I said it was a close game for 2 quarters but OSU was in control all the way. Over 100 plays ran and over 700 yards of offense. Come on man, you are grasping at straws. UC has been blown out by EVERY quality opponent under Tubs. Enjoy the slow death of UC football!
 

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