2019-2020 NET rankings & team sheets

[waterhead]

Wichita St at home might not end up as a Q1 game though. They're right on the edge. I can't see us getting any consideration if we have zero Q1 wins. At this point we might need to win at Houston or Wichita.

That is disappointing. At one time I thought 6 losses would be bubble (even if on the wrong side). Then 5. Now it could be that we have to win a game at Houston or WSU. That is not even a 50-50 proposition. However, with the way we have been playing lately I guess anything is possible. Our home game will have to travel if we want to win one of those two games.

 

[cincyguy13]

That is disappointing. At one time I thought 6 losses would be bubble (even if on the wrong side). Then 5. Now it could be that we have to win a game at Houston or WSU. That is not even a 50-50 proposition. However, with the way we have been playing lately I guess anything is possible. Our home game will have to travel if we want to win one of those two games.

We dug ourselves a hole, got to find a way to get out of it. Gonna have to win some hard games to get back in the discussion. These teams are in no way unbeatable. Houston just struggled at home against UConn. It can be done.

 

[cincrulz11]

i still feel like if our only losses the rest of the way are @ wichita state and @ houston we'll be ok. going undeated against tier 2 would be strong and having an overall record over .500 vs tier 1 and 2 combined would be solid.


Barttorvik projects with just those 2 losses we'd be in and avoid dayton.

 

[waterhead]

i still feel like if our only losses the rest of the way are @ wichita state and @ houston we'll be ok. going undeated against tier 2 would be strong and having an overall record over .500 vs tier 1 and 2 combined would be solid.


Barttorvik projects with just those 2 losses we'd be in and avoid dayton.

I would hope so but Barttorvik has both Houston and WSU as Q1 games at home. Actual NET rankings have them at 36 (Houston) and 30 for WSU. If we beat either team it could either drop them out or keep them out of Q1 and T-rank team sheet would change.

Either way I would hope only 4 losses in conference would get the job done but no Q1 wins would likely stand out.

 

[waterhead]

One thing is for sure. If we make the dance...we will be playing at a VERY high level.

 

[sedziobs]

... win a game at Houston or WSU. That is not even a 50-50 proposition.

Using Torvik's win probabilities in those two games (30% and 29%), we have a 50.3% chance of winning at least one of them.

 

[cincrulz11]

I would hope so but Barttorvik has both Houston and WSU as Q1 games at home. Actual NET rankings have them at 36 (Houston) and 30 for WSU. If we beat either team it could either drop them out or keep them out of Q1 and T-rank team sheet would change.

Either way I would hope only 4 losses in conference would get the job done but no Q1 wins would likely stand out.

im just going to be positive. no quad 1 wins? how bout these quad 2 wins. im just going to tell myself its going to be ok.


i really do feel like if we only lose those 2 games we're in a pretty good spot. we might be lacking quad 1 wins, but the rest of our metrics should look good for a tournament team.

 

[sedziobs]

A couple of changes after yesterday's games: South Florida moved back into the top 135 with a big win at Tulane, so that could be another Q2 game. On the other side, SMU is at 74, on the verge of dropping to Q3. UConn crushed Temple and moved up to 87. They're within striking distance of a Q1 away game.

Bubble teams struggled overall last night. Arizona St, Alabama, Arkansas, Xavier, and Oklahoma lost. Only Texas Tech had a good win.

 

[waterhead]

im just going to be positive. no quad 1 wins? how bout these quad 2 wins. im just going to tell myself its going to be ok.


i really do feel like if we only lose those 2 games we're in a pretty good spot. we might be lacking quad 1 wins, but the rest of our metrics should look good for a tournament team.

Perhaps recent form will play a small part in bubble decisions. Having a surging star like Cumberland in the dance could factor in a small way. Maybe our streak of 9 straight tourneys could play a minor role if they are looking for good story lines. Rewarding our SOS etc

If we are right on that bubble line...I hope we are the shiny object

 

[sedziobs]

Q1
20 @Ohio St
24 Iowa
35 @Houston
38 @Wichita St
47 @Xavier
50 @Memphis


Q2
35 Houston
38 Wichita St
50 Memphis
60 Tulsa
70 Tennessee
72 SMU
86 @UConn
103 @Temple
117 @UCF
120 @USF

Q3
86 UConn
87 Vermont
103 Temple
121 UCF
125 Colgate
131 UNLV
133 Bowling Green
152 Drake
155 Valpo
171 @Tulane
227 @ECU

Q4
208 Illinois St
227 ECU
335 Alabama A&M

 

[justinhub2003]

We desperately need a q1 win

 

[cincrulz11]

would be amazing if we could beat uconn and then they find their way into the top 75.

 

[justinhub2003]

would be amazing if we could beat uconn and then they find their way into the top 75.

They are on the cusp of beating someone. Play every game pretty tough mostly

 

[Queens_NYC]

We desperately need a q1 win

I think yesterday's win will end up at Q1.

 

[Queens_NYC]

Lots of movement in the NET rankings overnight.

We only moved up 2 spots after obtaining our first Q1 victory of the year (jumping from 47 to 45).

We also lost a Q2 victory after Tulsa dropped from 61 to 77 following their 16-point home loss to UConn.

However, we gained that Q2 victory back right away when UConn rose 23 spots from 92 to 69. As it stands, Sunday's match-up in Storrs will be Q1 as well.

 

[sirthought]

Thanks for the updates.

 

[cincrulz11]

Lots of movement in the NET rankings overnight.

We only moved up 2 spots after obtaining our first Q1 victory of the year (jumping from 47 to 45).

We also lost a Q2 victory after Tulsa dropped from 61 to 77 following their 16-point home loss to UConn.

However, we gained that Q2 victory back right away when UConn rose 23 spots from 92 to 69. As it stands, Sunday's match-up in Storrs will be Q1 as well.

that is a great turn of events! i was sad we didn't get Tulsa on the road for a Quad 1 chance, but now they've just swapped it with uconn for the time being.

 

[sedziobs]

Q1
16 @Ohio St
30 Iowa
32 @Houston
44 @Wichita St
46 @Xavier
47 @Memphis
69 @ UConn

Q2
32 Houston
44 Wichita St
47 Memphis
65 Tennessee
68 SMU
69 UConn
103 @Temple
125 @USF
124 @UCF

Q3
77 Tulsa
87 Vermont
103 Temple
119 Colgate
124 UCF
136 UNLV
139 Drake
152 Bowling Green
157 Valpo
175 @Tulane
230 @ECU

Q4
211 Illinois St
230 ECU
338 Alabama A&M

 

[Queens_NYC]

Despite the loss yesterday, we stayed at #46 in the NET rankings and are officially the 2nd highest ranked AAC team (Wichita is at #50, and Memphis is at #59).

We also gained our 2nd Q1 win with Houston rising to #29.

With our current remaining schedule we have 1 Q1, 3 Q2, and 3 Q3 games remaining.

 

[sedziobs]

Q1
21 @Ohio St
28 Iowa
29 @Houston
29 Houston
44 @Xavier
50 @Wichita St
59 @Memphis
71 @ UConn

Q2
50 Wichita St
59 Memphis
68 Tennessee
71 UConn
73 SMU
105 @Temple
115 @USF
119 @UCF

Q3
83 Vermont
86 Tulsa
105 Temple
119 UCF
122 Colgate
139 Drake
143 UNLV
154 Valpo
155 Bowling Green
184 @Tulane
208 @ECU

Q4
202 Illinois St
208 ECU
339 Alabama A&M

Right now there are three teams ranked 68-73 that we need to stay in the top 75, and we also need #29 Houston to stay in the top 30.