cincrulz11
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and if that is a reason you can't trust a guy, that is some weeeeeeaaaaak sauce.
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and if that is a reason you can't trust a guy, that is some weeeeeeaaaaak sauce.
As I've said, Mikey made a posted a tweet way back when Harvey opted out that looking back almost certainly indicated that Mikey was also planning to leave. This isn't something recent, this is a long-burning dislike of Brannen by many (probably most) of the players.
I don't think it is specific to Saunders. Wasn't Tari his roommate? It might be specific to his dorm room.
Look on the other forums, we will be lucky if it is specific to his dorm room. The people who seem to be in the know and connected are saying that we should still expect multiple more players to transfer out.
If it's a dispute over a promised role, that goes all the way back to the beginning of the season. I don't know anything about the situation, but that's one possibility.As I've said, Mikey made a posted a tweet way back when Harvey opted out that looking back almost certainly indicated that Mikey was also planning to leave. This isn't something recent, this is a long-burning dislike of Brannen by many (probably most) of the players.
and if that is a reason you can't trust a guy, that is some weeeeeeaaaaak sauce.
Why? This was the complaint of the Cincy Slangin podcast that got everyone worked up.
Brannen says one thing in recruiting and does something else when coaching. He promises guys things and then breaks those promises. He acts one way during recruiting and his personality is completely different in the locker room. Essentially that you can't trust him, because he lies during recruiting.
If that's all true, I don't blame guys for leaving. Brannen is also going to have a hell of a time recruiting with all the rumors circulating around him.
This is very different than a Gregg Marshall style revolt. It's centered on a few guys who weren't playing as much as they wanted, not the entire group.Brannen says one thing in recruiting and does something else when coaching. He promises guys things and then breaks those promises. He acts one way during recruiting and his personality is completely different in the locker room. Essentially that you can't trust him, because he lies during recruiting.
If that's all true, I don't blame guys for leaving. Brannen is also going to have a hell of a time recruiting with all the rumors circulating around him.
https://twitter.com/zachxharvey/status/1371848207894974469/
There is a notable absence of mention of the coaching staff in Harvey's statement that he is transferring. He thanks the University and fans.
There is a notable absence of mention of the coaching staff in Harvey's statement that he is transferring. He thanks the University and fans.
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I seriously doubt it about playing time or starting. I refuse to believe players are transferring because you recruit other guys in their position or don’t let them start. This isn’t 3rd grade. Beat the guy out.Why? This was the complaint of the Cincy Slangin podcast that got everyone worked up.
Brannen says one thing in recruiting and does something else when coaching. He promises guys things and then breaks those promises. He acts one way during recruiting and his personality is completely different in the locker room. Essentially that you can't trust him, because he lies during recruiting.
If that's all true, I don't blame guys for leaving. Brannen is also going to have a hell of a time recruiting with all the rumors circulating around him.
This is very different than a Gregg Marshall style revolt. It's centered on a few guys who weren't playing as much as they wanted, not the entire group.
How many players have to be left before it becomes a Greg Marshall style revolt? After the Marshall revolt, WSU had 5 scholarship players remaining.
If it stops with Saunders, it's probably not there. But there are plenty of connected people indicating that it's not going to stop with Saunders. My guess is we are going to see at least Eason and one/two other guys transfer before it's all over. That would put us at 4/5 scholarship players remaining.
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If this is about playing time, I’m back on brannen side. This is college bball, you aren’t guaranteed a spot. Get out of my face with that
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I seriously doubt it about playing time or starting. I refuse to believe players are transferring because you recruit other guys in their position or don’t let them start. This isn’t 3rd grade. Beat the guy out.
If this is ab playing time... Get these clowns out. This is high level d1 hoops.
https://twitter.com/iRobsteR/status/1371888909211291649
iRobster said:I’ve heard CJB trashed Harvey after he opted out and it pissed guys off, including Mikey who is now transferring. No way to know if true though.
iRobster said:Yea i dunno. I don’t have more details than that. Just what someone told me this morning (which he turned out to be right about Mikey transferring). He also said Tari is heavily considering it too. I hate all of this.
Doesn't matter how many players, it means it's not about abuse.How many players have to be left before it becomes a Greg Marshall style revolt?
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This is very different than a Gregg Marshall style revolt. It's centered on a few guys who weren't playing as much as they wanted, not the entire group.
Some rumors flying around indicate this is all about Zach Harvey and the way his departure was handled by the staff and words that were said behind closed doors.
And then Brannens wife liked a tweet that read "Quit on the team when he lost playing time to Saunders, Mason and Davenport, and was behind MAW and DeJulius on the depth chart. Instead of working harder like Mason, Harvey walked out." on harveys twitter portal announcement.
this seems to be the smoke.
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I highly doubt this... Highly.
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Even this is soft. There has to be more. Like I said, maybe I’m old school, I’m not that old, but everything I’ve seen doesn’t feel like much at allSome rumors flying around indicate this is all about Zach Harvey and the way his departure was handled by the staff and words that were said behind closed doors.
And then Brannens wife liked a tweet that read "Quit on the team when he lost playing time to Saunders, Mason and Davenport, and was behind MAW and DeJulius on the depth chart. Instead of working harder like Mason, Harvey walked out." on harveys twitter portal announcement.
this seems to be the smoke.
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Doesn't matter how many players, it means it's not about abuse.
Yeah, think skyblade is missing the point.
A coach can promise a guy plenty of things besides playing time. He can act like a nice guy, than be an ******* in the locker room. He can tell them they will be playing a certain role and than not put them in that role.
But being recruited over is a valid reason to leave a team. I doubt that is the case, because all indications are that Saunders was going to be playing lots of minutes next year. Eason is expected to be a starter next year, if he leaves it's not about playing time.
But being recruited over is a valid reason to leave a team. I doubt that is the case, because all indications are that Saunders was going to be playing lots of minutes next year. Eason is expected to be a starter next year, if he leaves it's not about playing time.
But none of that points to abuse. That's a pretty serious charge to be spreading.A coach can promise a guy plenty of things besides playing time. He can act like a nice guy, than be an ******* in the locker room. He can tell them they will be playing a certain role and than not put them in that role.
But being recruited over is a valid reason to leave a team. I doubt that is the case, because all indications are that Saunders was going to be playing lots of minutes next year. Eason is expected to be a starter next year, if he leaves it's not about playing time.
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Even this is soft. There has to be more. Like I said, maybe I’m old school, I’m not that old, but everything I’ve seen doesn’t feel like much at all
It might be soft. But Easons mom WENT OFF on twitter about it when Harvey opted out. You don't think she was in Eason and Saunders' ear non stop after that?
She's a fire starter man.
