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Even this is soft. There has to be more. Like I said, maybe I’m old school, I’m not that old, but everything I’ve seen doesn’t feel like much at all

The only other people these guys could spend time with were other teammates. We know JD and Harvey were close. It's not a stretch to think other guys were close with Harvey as well.

If Brannen came out and trashed Harvey for leaving, I have no doubt it would have pissed off most of the team.
 
Some rumors flying around indicate this is all about Zach Harvey and the way his departure was handled by the staff and words that were said behind closed doors.

And then Brannens wife liked a tweet that read "Quit on the team when he lost playing time to Saunders, Mason and Davenport, and was behind MAW and DeJulius on the depth chart. Instead of working harder like Mason, Harvey walked out." on harveys twitter portal announcement.


this seems to be the smoke.

Brannen preaches "we are family" all the time. If he took the first chance to dog a family member (i guess still a rumor) that decided to move on...that's not how family works. You don't dog family behind their back. You just try to help them move on and be happy. If his wife was liking posts there was a good chance John was telling her what he thought of the situation too.

If he is a hypocrite...that is someone I would not want to play for. But who knows
 
Doesn't matter how many players, it means it's not about abuse.

I don't think I've seen any indications that there has been abuse. But I don't think that's required for a Marshall style revolt. But if that's how you want to qualify it, than I guess we can call it players revolting against a coach who they don't like.
 
Brannen preaches "we are family" all the time. If he took the first chance to dog a family member (i guess still a rumor) that decided to move on...that's not how family works. You don't dog family behind their back. You just try to help them move on and be happy. If his wife was liking posts there was a good chance John was telling her what he thought of the situation too.

If he is a hypocrite...that is someone I would not want to play for. But who knows

Look at Brannen's comments on Diarra when he opted out. He did not come off in a good light with those comments. I think it's quite possible he said some worse things about Harvey behind closed doors. And if you did, than like you said he is a hypocrite and not somebody players want to play for.
 
The only other people these guys could spend time with were other teammates. We know JD and Harvey were close. It's not a stretch to think other guys were close with Harvey as well.

If Brannen came out and trashed Harvey for leaving, I have no doubt it would have pissed off most of the team.

Yeah, he’s going to be mad when he takes a chance on a guy with legal issues and the dude leaves. If they leave because of that, see ya. I think there is more than that.
 
Brannen preaches "we are family" all the time. If he took the first chance to dog a family member (i guess still a rumor) that decided to move on...that's not how family works. You don't dog family behind their back. You just try to help them move on and be happy. If his wife was liking posts there was a good chance John was telling her what he thought of the situation too.

If he is a hypocrite...that is someone I would not want to play for. But who knows


More rumors say the staff put the blame on Harvey for his lack of playing time and eventual opt out and that pissed some players off.


It's not hard to look at Harvey's hustle stats and agree with the coaching staff.
 
I don't think I've seen any indications that there has been abuse. But I don't think that's required for a Marshall style revolt. But if that's how you want to qualify it, than I guess we can call it players revolting against a coach who they don't like.
Yeah, I think we should leave Marshall's name out of it if abuse isn't supposed to be implied. I know Lobot started that analogy, but let's not continue it here. Maybe call it a Huggins revolt, as I think he's had multiple seasons with a mass exodus at West Virginia.
 
I feel bad for spreading gossip, but dang it's all out there somewhere. I'm just saving some clicks.
 
and around the same time brannen's wife started liking posts about not listening to outside influences and stuff like that.


i can see this all making sense now.

Apparently Brannen's wife is going on a spree today. Liked a post on twitter criticizing Harvey for leaving and another criticizing Saunders for leaving.

Brannen needs to tell her to delete her twitter account yesterday. For any players on the edge about leaving, this might be what pushes them over.
 
If the players can’t handle getting their feelings hurt or a coach saying something bad about a guy that left, they are in for a rude awakening in college. Or guys being recruited over them. Grow up.

Once again, I doubt this is it, but some of you guys seem to think it is.
 
If the players can’t handle getting their feelings hurt or a coach saying something bad about a guy that left, they are in for a rude awakening in college. Or guys being recruited over them. Grow up.

Once again, I doubt this is it, but some of you guys seem to think it is.
Could definitely be it. There's a difference between toughness and a lack of respect.

Still, if that's the reason, it's hopefully a one time issue and not a toxic situation that persists with the guys who stay.
 
Could definitely be it. There's a difference between toughness and a lack of respect.

Still, if that's the reason, it's hopefully a one time issue and not a toxic situation that persists with the guys who stay.


Can't have coaches wife on twitter liking posts that bash players. That helps nobody in any way.
 
If the players can’t handle getting their feelings hurt or a coach saying something bad about a guy that left, they are in for a rude awakening in college. Or guys being recruited over them. Grow up.

Once again, I doubt this is it, but some of you guys seem to think it is.

once feelings get hurt logic flies out the window. feelings were clearly hurt. we need to find the end and cut the cord.
 
Apparently Brannen's wife is going on a spree today. Liked a post on twitter criticizing Harvey for leaving and another criticizing Saunders for leaving.

Brannen needs to tell her to delete her twitter account yesterday. For any players on the edge about leaving, this might be what pushes them over.

Looks horrible to like that tweet.
 
Apparently Brannen's wife is going on a spree today. Liked a post on twitter criticizing Harvey for leaving and another criticizing Saunders for leaving.

Brannen needs to tell her to delete her twitter account yesterday. For any players on the edge about leaving, this might be what pushes them over.


If this is true then that is absolute bullshit.

She's a grown woman who should know better than to get involved in this stuff. Go spend some time with your kids, do some stuff around the house, read a book, go spend some of your millions of dollars... just get the hell off Twitter and quit making the program look bush league.

I mean, what in the absolute f*%# is she thinking she's accomplishing with this?
 
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