2021-22 Roster

[justinhub2003]

Yea. This ain’t a playing time issue.

This is a F*ck You Coach brannen type deal. The players are revolting against a culture that they don’t like and they don’t think is empathetic to their situation.

You can tell CJB tried to change this the last few weeks, but too little too late.

 

[Queens_NYC]

Yeah, I'll be curious to hear what is said when everything comes out. I've been trying to find it, but I can't now. A while back someone on the 247 forum posted about a tweet (I believe from Saunders) that was quickly delete. The deleted tweet said something like: when the smoke rises, all becomes clear.

Maybe someone else remembers the tweet and can find it. Maybe it wasn't from Saunders and I'm misremembering? It was taken as a sign of support for Brannen, because people thought Saunders was firmly in the Brannen camp. But now I wonder if it actually had the opposite meaning.

Also, Lobot, the admin on Bearcat News, who is pretty well connected just posted this over on his forum.

Wow. Equating our situation to Wichita last offseason is pretty serious.

 

[skyblade]

Wow. Equating our situation to Wichita last offseason is pretty serious.

Yeah, I wouldn't post it if it were just a random poster. But based on the info he gives on Bearcat News, Lobot is one of the best (if not the most) connected posters on any of these boards. I would argue more so than Chad.

It seems everything he is hearing is that Mikey is the tip of the iceberg. And considering how few players we have left already, we are in for a bad ride.

 

[cincrulz11]

If its another Gregg Marshall situation then you have to fire him now. There is no point in going on with a guy like that.


You could always tell Marshall was an ahole though, I never got that same vibe from Brannen. At least not until he walked off the court Sunday.

 

[TheLivingLegend]

Lobotv saying that isn't ideal... What's going on in IG? Apparently alot?

 

[skyblade]

If its another Gregg Marshall situation then you have to fire him now. There is no point in going on with a guy like that.


You could always tell Marshall was an ahole though, I never got that same vibe from Brannen. At least not until he walked off the court Sunday.

Yeah, the walkoff looks worse now that I've seen more on it. He didn't just go to Houston and shake hands early. He walked to the locker room immediately after the end of the game.

The rest of the team stayed on the court and shook hands with Houston after Houston finished celebrating. By then, Brannen was in the locker room, alone for a good 5-10 minutes. While his players were on the court, distraught over losing the final game of their season.

I don't get ******* vibes from Brannen. But I definitely get lack of concern for the players vibes. Brannen reeks of indifference and that may be worse than being an *******.

 

[skyblade]

I found the reference to Mikey's deleted tweet. It said "once the smoke clears, everything comes to light."

This was shortly post Harvey opt out and taken as support of Brannen and that "the smoke" was a result of player issues.

But now that we know Mikey was probably planning to leave when he made that tweet. The pessimistic interpretation makes a lot more sense. That interpretation is that there are serious locker room issues with Brannen as a coach.

 

[cincyguy13]

What a mess. Honestly what’s the best case scenario now? Cut bait

 

[cincyalum2014]

What a mess. Honestly what’s the best case scenario now? Cut bait

UC cant afford to cut bait right now, his buy out is $4.5M and i think its something like $3.6M next year, so we are stuck with JB for a couple more years for better or worse

 

[TheLivingLegend]

UC cant afford to cut bait right now, his buy out is $4.5M and i think its something like $3.6M next year, so we are stuck with JB for a couple more years for better or worse

I don't think that's accurate... But unless there is just cause he ain't getting fired.

 

[justinhub2003]

If we are dealing with a Greg Marshall type coach then I’d rather just have Greg Marshall.



I hope the players speak out much like they did against Marshall. I’m
Gonna see if Jeff Goodman can write his next hit piece, lol we need a good cause for firing. Sooo let’s find one lol

 

[cincyguy13]

UC cant afford to cut bait right now, his buy out is $4.5M and i think its something like $3.6M next year, so we are stuck with JB for a couple more years for better or worse

They might lose more than that if he stays. Team is going to suck. Won’t be interest in the program.

 

[skyblade]

What a mess. Honestly what’s the best case scenario now? Cut bait

There seems to be a slow trickle of info that players can't stand Brannen. Another claimed quote of an anonymous transfer "bad vibes all year, can’t play for the coach, love the fans and team”.

Best case is that turns into enough to fire Brannen with cause. I'm sure if/when Tari transfers (a lot of rumors that his name will enter the portal by tomorrow) we will see a lot on twitter from his mom.

Second best case is we find enough money to pony up 4.5 million to get rid of Brannen. Maybe if we promise to hire NVE we can get former players to chip in?

Worst case is that virtually everyone transfers out, we can't fire Brannen and Brannen is stuck recruiting with rumors swirling that he is a locker room cancer who players don't want to play for.

 

[cincyguy13]

If we are dealing with a Greg Marshall type coach then I’d rather just have Greg Marshall.



I hope the players speak out much like they did against Marshall. I’m
Gonna see if Jeff Goodman can write his next hit piece, lol we need a good cause for firing. Sooo let’s find one lol

I do wonder what’s going on. I don’t think it’s abuse but that’s the only thing that would explain this

 

[justinhub2003]

I don't think that's accurate... But unless there is just cause he ain't getting fired.

It’s accurate. Terms of his contract were posted on bcj

He gets a million dollar retention bonus next year as well.


We have to find a way to fire him with cause or we stuck with him

 

[cincyguy13]

There seems to be a slow trickle of info that players can't stand Brannen.

Best case is that turns into enough to fire Brannen with cause. I'm sure if/when Tari transfers (a lot of rumors that his name will enter the portal by tomorrow) we will see a lot on twitter from his mom.

Second best case is we find enough money to pony up 4.5 million to get rid of Brannen. Maybe if we promise to hire NVE we can get former players to chip in?

Worst case is that virtually everyone transfers out, we can't fire Brannen and Brannen is stuck recruiting with rumors swirling that he is a locker room cancer who players don't want to play for.

I was asking best case if he doesn’t get fired.

 

[cincrulz11]

I do wonder what’s going on. I don’t think it’s abuse but that’s the only thing that would explain this

It's not the only thing. It's been a horrible year for everybody. It would just take 1 very vocal influence to corrupt a lot of young minds.


As we can see from all the players in the portal, it isn't taking much at all for players to jump.

 

[justinhub2003]

I was all about seeing this through one more year. CJB better start getting some quick wins on the recruiting trail. That’s the only way to stop the bleeding.

This fan base is far more United than its ever been and sadly it’s not the good kinda unity.

I just want to win again. I don’t care if it’s brannen or not. But I just want to be good again

 

[cincrulz11]

It would have been better if they didn't get it together the last month. I think thats why its so shocking and hurts more. We were prepared for this when Harvey left, and then things seemed better.


Now it cuts deeper.

 

[sedziobs]

I was asking best case if he doesn’t get fired.

Best case is no more outgoing transfers and the rumors are all speculation that turn out to be false. We bring in three transfers and three freshmen.

I have no idea what's going on.