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Logan Johnson, 3 pts, 2 rebs at st. Mary’s. Not sure how this program ever recovers.

Also, I think Johnson and Hardnett could turn out to be good but if your argument is about losing half your roster this year, it isn’t a good argument. McNeal is better than Johnson this year. And I don’t think McNeal is that great. In the future probably not but I’m not losing sleep over thing that might happen in 2 years
 
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Vogt likely ends better than nysier... And thats a thought id never thought id say
Really?? Ok. And I never thought much of Fredericks but Cronin was a good coach he proved it. Brannen still has a lot to prove judging it from the start bad hire. We needed a guy that was young up and coming or somebody with more cache
 
I don’t think he will be better than nysier but there isn’t that big of a difference.

Trust me nysier leaving was a brutal blow.... But vogt has been more than serviceable. Can go with jump hook deep in post with either hand. Will need to limit foul trouble.
 
Really?? Ok. And I never thought much of Fredericks but Cronin was a good coach he proved it. Brannen still has a lot to prove judging it from the start bad hire. We needed a guy that was young up and coming or somebody with more cache

This is Dan Cronin isnt it?

I was a mick supporter... But Brannen is a breath of fresh air. His offensive system ia iust getting started. Its amazing watxhing open flow movement and a green light to shoot.

The rock fight days are over. You should either jump onboard or follow your brother to UCLA
 
This is Dan Cronin isnt it?

I was a mick supporter... But Brannen is a breath of fresh air. His offensive system ia iust getting started. Its amazing watxhing open flow movement and a green light to shoot.

The rock fight days are over. You should either jump onboard or follow your brother to UCLA

I honestly thought Jon Rycek was Dan Cronin forever
 
Criticism of Brannen is fair. This is a forum, not a positivist echo chamber. Sure I think Joe takes it a bit too far, but he has a right to his opinion.

As for the loss of players. Sure the replacements are equal or greater in most cases (besides Brooks who was a much better center).

But next year the grad transfers leave. Whereas LoJo, Nsoseme and Hardnett would still be here and valuable contributors.

For that to be an even (or even close to even) trade, we need to have success this year. We would have been a young team next year even with LoJo, Hardnett and Nsoseme still here. Without them we will be very young. That's not to mention that we have yet to recruit a backup Center or PF (assuming Diarra starts and depending on if Prince ever returns) for next year (which Nsoseme and Hardnett would have been).
 
We have no idea if lojo, Hardnett, or Ellie will be good. Especially in a new system. We can guess, but it would be just that. Lojo is the only one I think will be good and that is based off his brothers success. My opinion. To say you know for sure they will be good, and it is some kind of big loss for the program, is lying for the sake of your argument. There is literally nothing to go on with Hardnett. Barely any film but we know he’s going to be good? Based on what? Ellie will never be good. He will hustle but he will never be an all league player.
 
I agree on all points. Brannen's been a breath of fresh air. We finally have an offense; ball movement and movement off the ball. Jarron should realize he's in a better position to the next level with Brannen.
Last year, I never understood why a team without an offense would walk the ball up the court. They should have been trying to beat the defense down the court to stay out of the half court game. This year, we have both....a team that pushes the pace and runs an offense!
 
Criticism of Brannen is fair. This is a forum, not a positivist echo chamber. Sure I think Joe takes it a bit too far, but he has a right to his opinion.

As for the loss of players. Sure the replacements are equal or greater in most cases (besides Brooks who was a much better center).

But next year the grad transfers leave. Whereas LoJo, Nsoseme and Hardnett would still be here and valuable contributors.

For that to be an even (or even close to even) trade, we need to have success this year. We would have been a young team next year even with LoJo, Hardnett and Nsoseme still here. Without them we will be very young. That's not to mention that we have yet to recruit a backup Center or PF (assuming Diarra starts and depending on if Prince ever returns) for next year (which Nsoseme and Hardnett would have been).

Im not sure Davenport doesnt leap frog Mamadou at the 4 next yr.
 
Look it takes a true leader of men to lead men or young men. John Brannen is a tall, awkward adams family looking guy that gives coach speak, and loves to stay in the house with his family. His press conferences are as dry as ever, he looks like he's been coaching for years but the resume just isnt there. Not for this job, not for this University. Why didn't we get some young, fresh guy in here with sharp experience and expected loyalty to the program? Oh we did that 13 yrs ago... Could we of done it again and gotten better? Well after 3 decades of very solid Basketball out of cincinnati i dont see why we couldn't have. We didnt even pluck from our tradition tree and use one of our former players or former coaches no, lets hire the guy across the river at NKU. He gets here no more top 15 team, guys leave and now our 2k point scorer, surely would be all America with a strong team in this conference is upset. We looked very average against alabama a&m and ppl are actually taking all of that lightly bc apparently something must of swept in over night into this town and made Bearcat nation punch drunk for John Brannen.. You get what you deserve
 
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I agree on all points. Brannen's been a breath of fresh air. We finally have an offense; ball movement and movement off the ball. Jarron should realize he's in a better position to the next level with Brannen.
Last year, I never understood why a team without an offense would walk the ball up the court. They should have been trying to beat the defense down the court to stay out of the half court game. This year, we have both....a team that pushes the pace and runs an offense!
Brannen has never sent a soul to the NBA, he's never had a top 50 win
 
Give him time, he's not had much of an opportunity for a top 50 win yet; nor the chance to send anyone to the NBA
 
Look it takes a true leader of men to lead men or young men. John Brannen is a tall, awkward adams family looking guy that gives coach speak, and loves to stay in the house with his family. His press conferences are as dry as ever, he looks like he's been coaching for years but the resume just isnt there. Not for this job, not for this University. Why didn't we get some young, fresh guy in here with sharp experience and expected loyalty to the program? Oh we did that 13 yrs ago... Could we of done it again and gotten better? Well after 3 decades of very solid Basketball out of cincinnati i dont see why we couldn't have. We didnt even pluck from our tradition tree and use one of our former players or former coaches no, lets hire the guy across the river at NKU. He gets here no more top 15 team, guys leave and now our 2k point scorer, surely would be all America with a strong team in this conference is upset. We looked very average against alabama a&m and ppl are actually taking all of that lightly bc apparently something must of swept in over night into this town and made Bearcat nation punch drunk for John Brannen.. You get what you deserve

Get off this board Dan Cronin. Mick was an extremely average coach for 13 years. You’re going to base JB’s tenure and future successes off of one game against Alabama A&M, and where he suspended a guy that clearly thinks he’s going to waltz through this season. If Cumberland can’t buy into a team then that’s husband problem. Done are the days where Kilpatrick, Vaughn, Stephenson, Cumberland it Evans pounds the rock into the ground for 20 and seconds and takes a bad shot. I’ve liked what I’ve seen in 2-3 games.
 
Look it takes a true leader of men to lead men or young men. John Brannen is a tall, awkward adams family looking guy that gives coach speak, and loves to stay in the house with his family. His press conferences are as dry as ever, he looks like he's been coaching for years but the resume just isnt there. Not for this job, not for this University. Why didn't we get some young, fresh guy in here with sharp experience and expected loyalty to the program? Oh we did that 13 yrs ago... Could we of done it again and gotten better? Well after 3 decades of very solid Basketball out of cincinnati i dont see why we couldn't have. We didnt even pluck from our tradition tree and use one of our former players or former coaches no, lets hire the guy across the river at NKU. He gets here no more top 15 team, guys leave and now our 2k point scorer, surely would be all America with a strong team in this conference is upset. We looked very average against alabama a&m and ppl are actually taking all of that lightly bc apparently something must of swept in over night into this town and made Bearcat nation punch drunk for John Brannen.. You get what you deserve

Way to strive for greatness with our “very solid” program. We should be happy with the slightly above average that mick brought year after year. Cya dan
 
Way to strive for greatness with our “very solid” program. We should be happy with the slightly above average that mick brought year after year. Cya dan

If you didn't like Mick, how could you be happy with brannen? I just don't understand it
 
Get off this board Dan Cronin. Mick was an extremely average coach for 13 years. You’re going to base JB’s tenure and future successes off of one game against Alabama A&M, and where he suspended a guy that clearly thinks he’s going to waltz through this season. If Cumberland can’t buy into a team then that’s husband problem. Done are the days where Kilpatrick, Vaughn, Stephenson, Cumberland it Evans pounds the rock into the ground for 20 and seconds and takes a bad shot. I’ve liked what I’ve seen in 2-3 games.
Dude.... Cumberland has never done nothing flagrant during his time here pretty good track record I'm not sure about brannen tho, and baseing all this criticism off the first day he was hired not just 1 game or 3 games
 
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Brannen has never sent a soul to the NBA, he's never had a top 50 win

Before UC who did your bald midget lover Cronin send to the NBA from Murray State? You are ridiculous and have the worst takes I have ever seen. You can’t expect a guy to send people to the NBA when they are coaching mid majors. I bet Cronin will be fires from UCLA in under 5 years.
 
Look it takes a true leader of men to lead men or young men. John Brannen is a tall, awkward adams family looking guy that gives coach speak, and loves to stay in the house with his family. His press conferences are as dry as ever, he looks like he's been coaching for years but the resume just isnt there. Not for this job, not for this University. Why didn't we get some young, fresh guy in here with sharp experience and expected loyalty to the program? Oh we did that 13 yrs ago... Could we of done it again and gotten better? Well after 3 decades of very solid Basketball out of cincinnati i dont see why we couldn't have. We didnt even pluck from our tradition tree and use one of our former players or former coaches no, lets hire the guy across the river at NKU. He gets here no more top 15 team, guys leave and now our 2k point scorer, surely would be all America with a strong team in this conference is upset. We looked very average against alabama a&m and ppl are actually taking all of that lightly bc apparently something must of swept in over night into this town and made Bearcat nation punch drunk for John Brannen.. You get what you deserve

You could have said nothing and your post would have more quality
 
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