I noticed some OSU fan on a message board was trying to explain why OSU doesn't want to schedule UC. The rationale was that "big dominant schools" like OSU don't like to play in-state schools because the other teams are hell bent and motivated on winning big upsets. I responded that UC is generally very highly ranked as an all time program and that calling a win for UC over OSU as a program would not be considered an upset...historically speaking. Football might be another story. However, I did a little research...
I saw some stats on a site that gave a breakdown for a bunch of teams and ranked them as all time programs. I have seen other rankings as well. I decided to do my own ranking system. I used 4 stats that were available on almost all the teams on that site. National championships, Final Fours, NCAA appearances, and Conference Championships. I gave two points for a CC, 2 points for a NCAA appearance, 8 for a FF, and 32 for a NC. I would have included conference tourney wins had they been available for all the teams. I was planning on coming up with an all time 64 team NCAA bracket...but I only got down to 32 teams before I ran out of time.
Anyhow, using those stats UC ended up being in 9th place whenever the article was written. It went like this...UCLA, KY, NC, Kansas, Duke, Indiana, Uconn, UL, UC, OSU. So UC would have been the highest ranked 3 seed
I think with a FF appearance OSU pulls ahead slightly...but not so much that it couldn't be argued that UC is a better all time program. If OSU were to get a NC it would probably close the door on that argument for the most part..although it would still be relatively close. All the other programs in the FF are already ahead of us.
I didn't look to see when the article was written but UC had 25 NCAA's, 32 CC's, 6 FF's and 2 NC's. OSU had 27 NCAA's, 25 CC's, 10 FF's (which has changed), and 1 NC.
Rounding out the Sweet 16 and Top 32 were in order...MSU, OSU (OK st), Ark, Syr, Ariz, GT...followed by...NC St, Mich, Vill, UNLV, FLA, ILL, Temp, San Fran, Marq, Wisc, Memph, Tex, Maryland, Princeton, OK, Purd.
I was relying on their limited data and for sure I know this year wasn't included in their stats.
I saw some stats on a site that gave a breakdown for a bunch of teams and ranked them as all time programs. I have seen other rankings as well. I decided to do my own ranking system. I used 4 stats that were available on almost all the teams on that site. National championships, Final Fours, NCAA appearances, and Conference Championships. I gave two points for a CC, 2 points for a NCAA appearance, 8 for a FF, and 32 for a NC. I would have included conference tourney wins had they been available for all the teams. I was planning on coming up with an all time 64 team NCAA bracket...but I only got down to 32 teams before I ran out of time.
Anyhow, using those stats UC ended up being in 9th place whenever the article was written. It went like this...UCLA, KY, NC, Kansas, Duke, Indiana, Uconn, UL, UC, OSU. So UC would have been the highest ranked 3 seed
I think with a FF appearance OSU pulls ahead slightly...but not so much that it couldn't be argued that UC is a better all time program. If OSU were to get a NC it would probably close the door on that argument for the most part..although it would still be relatively close. All the other programs in the FF are already ahead of us.I didn't look to see when the article was written but UC had 25 NCAA's, 32 CC's, 6 FF's and 2 NC's. OSU had 27 NCAA's, 25 CC's, 10 FF's (which has changed), and 1 NC.
Rounding out the Sweet 16 and Top 32 were in order...MSU, OSU (OK st), Ark, Syr, Ariz, GT...followed by...NC St, Mich, Vill, UNLV, FLA, ILL, Temp, San Fran, Marq, Wisc, Memph, Tex, Maryland, Princeton, OK, Purd.
I was relying on their limited data and for sure I know this year wasn't included in their stats.