NCAA Tournament

[coverley]

The only people on earth scrutinizing Xavier's run this much are UC fans. It makes us look petty and jealous.

My name is Coverley, and when it comes to Xavier I am petty and jealous. I need a ten step program to heal.

 

[Bcatfollower]

The only people on earth scrutinizing Xavier's run this much are UC fans. It makes us look petty and jealous.

I think people here are scrutinizing it so much about seed/luck because if you look at it objectively it means mack and the x program is better than u.c., so people here are looking for a reason to tear it down.

They put more effort and emphisis on their program, market it better, get higher recruits, and coach them better. We should be jealous.

We beat them once in the last four years...

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I think people here are scrutinizing it so much about seed/luck because if you look at it objectively it means mack and the x program is better than u.c., so people here are looking for a reason to tear it down.

They put more effort and emphisis on their program, market it better, get higher recruits, and coach them better. We should be jealous.

We beat them once in the last four years...

Still never made a Final 4 though. And for those who put so much stock in the NCAA Tournament, that should mean something.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

My name is Coverley, and when it comes to Xavier I am petty and jealous. I need a ten step program to heal.

That's a big first step you just took...the healing can begin.

 

[M64W]

Guards Needed

IMO---to be really good and make a tournament run, you need to have really good guards. They have to be consistently good, be able to shoot, and control the game. Caupain and Johnson were good, but not consistently good, not consistently good shooters. Even at that, they will be hard to replace, but I will take the chance at this point. Also, at this stage of the game, I would say that X has the stronger program. Compare our recruits for next year with X, before you say I am wrong.

 

[Bcatfollower]

Still never made a Final 4 though. And for those who put so much stock in the NCAA Tournament, that should mean something.

Agree, but they have had way more recent success and they are trending upward, even with multiple coaching changes, as opposed to being stagnent.

It's a school that has 4500 undergrads as opposed to u.c. with 34000 undergrads, yet we have difficulty filling a compareable size arena. We graduate 8x more kids every year than them but we somehow have compareable if not worse fanbase.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

IMO---to be really good and make a tournament run, you need to have really good guards. They have to be consistently good, be able to shoot, and control the game. Caupain and Johnson were good, but not consistently good, not consistently good shooters. Even at that, they will be hard to replace, but I will take the chance at this point. Also, at this stage of the game, I would say that X has the stronger program. Compare our recruits for next year with X, before you say I am wrong.

X has had a better run than us over the past 10+ years. It'd be great to beat them again next year. It's a pretty easy argument to make that we had a better season this year. They salvaged a disaster, but still couldn't get to the Final 4.

It's funny bc last night they kind of had UC luck. A team draining every 3 and Mecura's full court heave got waived off. I got a kick out of that.

 

[crimedogg27]

Agree, but they have had way more recent success and they are trending upward, even with multiple coaching changes, as opposed to being stagnent.

It's a school that has 4500 undergrads as opposed to u.c. with 34000 undergrads, yet we have difficulty filling a compareable size arena. We graduate 8x more kids every year than them but we somehow have compareable if not worse fanbase.

UC needs to find a way to better engage the fanbase. You can argue that X has the most loyal fanbase in the city b/w college and pro teams. They simply always show up, I'm envious of that.

 

[bearcat18]

X has had a better run than us over the past 10+ years. It'd be great to beat them again next year. It's a pretty easy argument to make that we had a better season this year. They salvaged a disaster, but still couldn't get to the Final 4.

It's funny bc last night they kind of had UC luck. A team draining every 3 and Mecura's full court heave got waived off. I got a kick out of that.

I give credit to X for their run. They had players get hot at the right time and O'Mara suddenly became reliable. Maryland and FSU - easy draw but they played really well and took care of business.

Having said that, they played the laziest zone all tourney, daring teams to beat them from outside. Maryland and FSU looked clueless. Arizona did a good job penetrating and kicking out, but they couldn't hit an open shot (and shot too many of them).

Gonzaga was shooting warmup jumpshots all game, either from simply swinging the ball around the perimeter, or working inside out. Out of Gonzaga's 12 threes, I think one or two were actually contested.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I give credit to X for their run. They had players get hot at the right time and O'Mara suddenly became reliable. Maryland and FSU - easy draw but they played really well and took care of business.

Having said that, they played the laziest zone all tourney, daring teams to beat them from outside. Maryland and FSU looked clueless. Arizona did a good job penetrating and kicking out, but they couldn't hit an open shot (and shot too many of them).

Gonzaga was shooting warmup jumpshots all game, either from simply swinging the ball around the perimeter, or working inside out. Out of Gonzaga's 12 threes, I think one or two were actually contested.

Gonzaga has done very well in the transfer market. Iowa State was pretty much built on it over the past 10 years. I like that we've landed Washington and Broome and have gone that way some. This spring I would love to land a guy from a big school looking for a new opportunity.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

My NCAA experience is about to really get bad. MY wife is a KY fan. If I had to pick a team right now that will win the tourney I would pick them.

 

[ZCat]

Congrats to Frank Martin and SC. I believe he coached Abdul Herrera in hs or AAU. Was her ever an assistant coach here or went straight to KState?

 

[Bcatfollower]

How close were we to getting thornwell?

 

[JasonS]

Congrats to Frank Martin and SC. I believe he coached Abdul Herrera in hs or AAU. Was her ever an assistant coach here or went straight to KState?

Pretty sure he was a coach here with Huggs right before Huggs was fired. I think the two lead assistants were Martin and Andy Kennedy.

 

[cincyguy13]

One thing I've noticed is, these teams on offense move the ball a lot faster than us. They rarely stand there with the ball for 5 seconds and stare at the defense.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Big blue nation just had a heart attack.

 

[TheLongHaul]

You guys must be young or something. Yes, Frank Martin was an assistant here.

 

[Jive]

Frank Martin coached for both Huggs and Andy Kennedy. He took over two bottom feeding programs in the Big 12 and SEC, took one to the elite 8 and the other now to the Final Four. That is a great example of not making excuses about all the barriers to success. He methodically built his programs and crashed thru all the supposed barriers. Great coach!

 

[TheLongHaul]

Frank Martin coached for both Huggs and Andy Kennedy. He took over two bottom feeding programs in the Big 12 and SEC, took one to the elite 8 and the other now to the Final Four. That is a great example of not making excuses about all the barriers to success. He methodically built his programs and crashed thru all the supposed barriers. Great coach!

I get your point, but he didn't take over a bottom feeder in the big 12.

 

[Jive]

I get your point, but he didn't take over a bottom feeder in the big 12.

It was a program that hadn't been to the NCAA for 11 straight years and hadn't gotten past the 1st round since 1988. I would call that a bottom feeder.