Big 12

[DSquare]

Just shows the depths NTS will go to to try to support his "predictions". He loves being the only poster on here openly rooting AGAINST UC getting into the Big 12.

But he's a friend of the program. He's a big fan, just never has anything good to say about anything regarding the school, it's leadership, coaches or teams.

But he's been posting here for over 10 years, so clearly he's a fan.

What a tool.

He'll be fine once his xavier bball starts. That crew doesn't have a lot to do during fball season.

 

[Red_N_Black_Attack]

Just shows the depths NTS will go to to try to support his "predictions". He loves being the only poster on here openly rooting AGAINST UC getting into the Big 12.

But he's a friend of the program. He's a big fan, just never has anything good to say about anything regarding the school, it's leadership, coaches or teams.

But he's been posting here for over 10 years, so clearly he's a fan.

What a tool.

How do you block people? I'd like to no longer see posts by this poster.

 

[Cataclysmo]

That’s why sometime in late October, provided the college football and conference realignment landscape doesn’t once again change, the Big 12 will vote to add BYU and Houston as members for the 2017 season.

Don’t miss the significance of that point. The Big 12 would like new members to begin conference play in 2017. BYU, being an independent, has no problem. Houston has more than one billionaire booster willing to pay for the Cougar’s early exit from the AAC. Can the Bearcats say the same?

In the end, it looks like the Bearcats will lose out, because if the Big 12 is going to expand, how can it disregard the advice of it television partners and consultants? How can the most dysfunctional conference in college football not see the value in adding Houston if the grant of rights is extended as a result?

http://landgrantgauntlet.com/2016/08/27/the-big-12-may-be-close-to-naming-two-new-members/

When you finish reading the Dude, I have a fresh batch of magic beans that you might be interested in purchasing.

I kid, but for anyone who IS worried about this, I'll offer a rebuttal.

I am, admittedly, concerned that BYU and Houston will be the choices. In fact, I think it is the only realistic scenario that would preclude UC from admittance. BUT, I would still argue that it is unlikely this would ever occur.

Think about the geography of the situation. We've heard a lot about WVU being on an Island over the past few years, and even if this isn't a major concern, it is still worth considering. On that note, BYU creates the exact same issue on the opposite side of the country. Forget everything you heard about "TV executives" and what they want from the Dude, Moose, or any other twitter troll. Jason Williams, who works for the enquirer and has legitimate sources, even went as far as to say that UC is ESPN's favorite choice for expansion. That's pretty much all we have on that front. But from a purely speculative standpoint, how much sense does it make for a network to make a play for adding yet ANOTHER time zone and then tapping into the Houston market, which is already captured by the conference...5 times over? Geographically, BYU and Houston would make no sense together.

On BYU, we recently had comments come out from the Iowa State president indicating that their candidacy received the most commentary, both good AND bad. The good is obvious - national following, fans in the stands, a storied football program, etc. The bad as well - honor code, LGBTQ push, investigation over sexual assault. Could BYU be one of the choices? Sure. But take all this into consideration, and do you really think they would make sense to go along with Houston? Again, unlikely, but possible.

As to the comment regarding the 2017 season. If the decision were made today, then yes, it could be an issue. But as this drags out, it becomes more and more unlikely that 2017 will be the inaugural year for these new members. It's simply too difficult to maneuver the scheduling within such a tight window. Furthermore, and perhaps most important of all, WHY WOULD A CONFERENCE BASE ITS LONG-TERM STRATEGY FOR STABILITY OFF THE MOST READILY AVAILABLE MEMBER?? That entire notion laughs in the face of logic. Just like the farce that is the Dude of WV.

I could go on and on. But taking all things into consideration, and as biased as I might be, UC seems to be in good shape.

I really don't like responding to NTS (because it is clear that he is trying to get a rise out of everyone...sad as that is) but I had to throw this in there for anyone who might stumble across this board and question the legitimacy of his claims.

 

[AZ BEARCAT]

When you finish reading the Dude, I have a fresh batch of magic beans that you might be interested in purchasing.

I kid, but for anyone who IS worried about this, I'll offer a rebuttal.

I am, admittedly, concerned that BYU and Houston will be the choices. In fact, I think it is the only realistic scenario that would preclude UC from admittance. BUT, I would still argue that it is unlikely this would ever occur.

Think about the geography of the situation. We've heard a lot about WVU being on an Island over the past few years, and even if this isn't a major concern, it is still worth considering. On that note, BYU creates the exact same issue on the opposite side of the country. Forget everything you heard about "TV executives" and what they want from the Dude, Moose, or any other twitter troll. Jason Williams, who works for the enquirer and has legitimate sources, even went as far as to say that UC is ESPN's favorite choice for expansion. That's pretty much all we have on that front. But from a purely speculative standpoint, how much sense does it make for a network to make a play for adding yet ANOTHER time zone and then tapping into the Houston market, which is already captured by the conference...5 times over? Geographically, BYU and Houston would make no sense together.

On BYU, we recently had comments come out from the Iowa State president indicating that their candidacy received the most commentary, both good AND bad. The good is obvious - national following, fans in the stands, a storied football program, etc. The bad as well - honor code, LGBTQ push, investigation over sexual assault. Could BYU be one of the choices? Sure. But take all this into consideration, and do you really think they would make sense to go along with Houston? Again, unlikely, but possible.

As to the comment regarding the 2017 season. If the decision were made today, then yes, it could be an issue. But as this drags out, it becomes more and more unlikely that 2017 will be the inaugural year for these new members. It's simply too difficult to maneuver the scheduling within such a tight window. Furthermore, and perhaps most important of all, WHY WOULD A CONFERENCE BASE ITS LONG-TERM STRATEGY FOR STABILITY OFF THE MOST READILY AVAILABLE MEMBER?? That entire notion laughs in the face of logic. Just like the farce that is the Dude of WV.

I could go on and on. But taking all things into consideration, and as biased as I might be, UC seems to be in good shape.

I really don't like responding to NTS (because it is clear that he is trying to get a rise out of everyone...sad as that is) but I had to throw this in there for anyone who might stumble across this board and question the legitimacy of his claims.

good points !

 

[AZ BEARCAT]

yes. we were in the big east.

No shit, are you serious? Never knew that.

ast conferences Big East
(2005–2012)
Conference USA
(1996–2004)
Independent
(1970–1995)
Missouri Valley
(1957–1969)
Mid-American Conference
(1947–1952)
Independent
(1936–1946)
Buckeye Athletic Association
(1926–1935)
Ohio Athletic Conference
(1910–1925)
Independent
(1885–1909) great history !!!!

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

He'll be fine once his xavier bball starts. That crew doesn't have a lot to do during fball season.

Genius post. Pure brilliance. Good detective skills.

 

[NKY Bearcat]

Genius post. Pure brilliance. Good detective skills.

Great post, witty and humorous. Completely added to the discussion in a positive way.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Great post, witty and humorous. Completely added to the discussion in a positive way.

Thanks for the kind words!

 

[M64W]

POLITICS & MONEY

I hate to be like NTS (pessimistic), but I am afraid this Big 12 situation is going to be decided by Politics (Houston) and Money (BYU-and TV). Where is someone like P&G? Memphis talks about FedEx. If the Big 12 does not create a travel partner for WVU, I hope WVU takes a hike on the Big 12.

 

[NKY Bearcat]

I hate to be like NTS (pessimistic), but I am afraid this Big 12 situation is going to be decided by Politics (Houston) and Money (BYU-and TV). Where is someone like P&G? Memphis talks about FedEx. If the Big 12 does not create a travel partner for WVU, I hope WVU takes a hike on the Big 12.

First don't compare yourself to the village troll just because you have pessimistic outlook on expansion. This is Cincinnati, and we do get screwed alot.

On the bright side, it has been rumored that large corporate partners were supporting UC. The difference is they are not putting it out to the public,likely due to the backlash in the 16 to 18 cities that don't get in.

It is also important to remember that Fox wants eastern time zone teams. ESPN owns the ACC now, and Fox needs more games for the early time slots. Also with a potential next contract with Netflix or Amazon, eastern time slots are important. UC would be the best property for the B12 to add in that timezone.

In short, UC is in better position than most of us want to admit.

 

[2bearcatdad]

How do you block people? I'd like to no longer see posts by this poster.

Let me help you.

Under the menu at the top of the page, go to User CP. Then go to Settings and Edit Ignore List. Type in the name of whoever you want to ignore (in this case me - 2bearcatdad).

That should do it.

I hope that helps.

 

[Bcatfollower]

Let me help you.

Under the menu at the top of the page, go to User CP. Then go to Settings and Edit Ignore List. Type in the name of whoever you want to ignore (in this case me - 2bearcatdad).

That should do it.

I hope that helps.

I think he was wanting to block nts not you...

 

[2bearcatdad]

I think he was wanting to block nts not you...

I wasn't sure, but I'm happy to help either way.

 

[DSquare]

Genius post. Pure brilliance. Good detective skills.

Thanks, you want me to tell them what the "NTS" stands for?

 

[jacobkdoyle]

***Back to the Big 12***

 

[Red_N_Black_Attack]

I wasn't sure, but I'm happy to help either way.

Yes - NTS not you! Thanks for the help

 

[2bearcatdad]

Yes - NTS not you! Thanks for the help

No problem. He's the only one on my blocked list also.

 

[GarradJ21]

No problem. He's the only one on my blocked list also.

Apparently Big 12 will cut their list today. Hopefully this is real information for once.

 

[UCalum08]

Apparently Big 12 will cut their list today. Hopefully this is real information for once.

They need to hurry up and make a decision. Just ridiculous they take this long. We all know UC will make their "cut list" I am sure they already know who they want. Let the politics run its course.

 

[CrakkerBarrellsX]

I hate to be like NTS (pessimistic), but I am afraid this Big 12 situation is going to be decided by Politics (Houston) and Money (BYU-and TV). Where is someone like P&G? Memphis talks about FedEx. If the Big 12 does not create a travel partner for WVU, I hope WVU takes a hike on the Big 12.

krogers tries to help. Money just isn't long enough