Brannen's Possible Staff

[cincyalum2014]

Really disappointing to see guys that I grew up idolizing act like complete children

 

[mdchick]

It’s a damn shame that there are so many Huggins players that don’t support the program. It is really disappointing that Kenyon, most of all, threw the program under the bus. He has his damn jersey retired here....where is the respect for the current players, staff, and administration?

I’m not surprised, he is a diva, I’m sure if brannen starts winning he will come around to him, he made a couple snarky tweets at mick before as well; it’s weird to me he rips on uc like this at times cuz whenever he comes to games he gets treated like a god.

 

[waterhead]

Not sure Kmart has been the best role model lately so who cares what he thinks anymore. As for the others I would suggest a well written and evidenced letter to the AD or board or Admin would look better and have more meaning than some snarky tweets. That’s not how you get interviews.

I like the hire (for now) lol!!

 

[sirthought]

The NKU fans on twitter seem to think Shumate is a top candidate to replace Brannen as head coach. Seems like he's very popular among NKU fans. So would probably be a good get for us, but might not be available (though we might be able to offer him more money as an assistant then NKU can offer him to be head coach).

I'm guessing Shumate would like the job. I don't know much about him, but I remember Cronin congratulating him on getting hired at NKU. I think he really thought highly of Shumate.

I saw someone on Facebook mention Winthrop and XU grad Pat Kelsey as a possible NKU hire. Can't see that as a step up for him unless he wants to come home to this region.

 

[sirthought]

One guy I think might be an interesting hire (if they could get him) is Kyle Getter, who's Uof Virginia's Director of Recruiting/Player Development.

He's from Miamisburg OH. Also coached at VCU under Shaka Smart like Brannen. Liberty and Radford.

Strong recruiter.

 

[Cin City]

more getting in the party. Hicks, White, and I'm sure there will be more.

Anyway, i'd like to see NVE as an assistant. Good look for Brannen and i'd like to not have our ex-players keep talking shit about the program. People talk highly of Brannen's assistant at NKU but I'm sure he'll take over there.

I haven't seen anything negative on White's part. What did I miss from him?

 

[Cin City]

KMart hasn't really been involved with UC consistently. Marshaled homecoming parade a few years back and hit up a couple practices. Has voiced his concerns with MC numerous times then shows up at Cronin's UCLA presser. Now this? I was really hoping he'd be better towards the university as a whole.

 

[collards]

Oscar

I agree, very immature and ill timed

has more class. KMart needs to keep his comments down. He needs to stay calm until the players decide about transferring and keeping/adding recruits.

 

[TheRealUC]

I haven't seen anything negative on White's part. What did I miss from him?

Nah, he wasn't really negative. He first responded with "who is that?", Which sounded worse than it was. Then he clarified and said he's just out of the loop. He did mention that everyone has to start somewhere and just needs a shot (NVE reference?) And also stated he wants to get into coaching and needs to send his resume to UC, haha.

 

[cincrulz11]

KMart hasn't really been involved with UC consistently. Marshaled homecoming parade a few years back and hit up a couple practices. Has voiced his concerns with MC numerous times then shows up at Cronin's UCLA presser. Now this? I was really hoping he'd be better towards the university as a whole.

Seems odd for the Huggins guys to rarely come around the program and now have an issue because one of their buddies didn't get an interview.



I dont really have a problem if they never come back around. With us or against us.


NVE had the best thing to say of all of them this morning. He handled it with class. Hopefully the other guys fall in line after NVE said let's welcome brannen and help him succeed.

 

[Btown Bearcat]

Not sure Kmart has been the best role model lately so who cares what he thinks anymore. As for the others I would suggest a well written and evidenced letter to the AD or board or Admin would look better and have more meaning than some snarky tweets. That’s not how you get interviews.

I like the hire (for now) lol!!

thing is this is how they have always been even pre twitter even when they finally came around to Cronin after a decade in charge it was still we have nothing against cronin or the program just the people in charge. Thats always kind of been their MO.

 

[waterhead]

thing is this is how they have always been even pre twitter even when they finally came around to Cronin after a decade in charge it was still we have nothing against cronin or the program just the people in charge. Thats always kind of been their MO.

Perhaps they think using Twitter is the best way to reach a lot of fans and put the seed in their mind. Maybe they think someone else will put the pressure on the admin. I don't know if any of them tried it or not but I would think the best way to make an impact on the administration would be to lobby them directly with a well thought out argument. Try to get in front of the board or AD or something like that.

We shall see but I think they got the right guy for right now. It may or may not play out that way. Should NVE have gotten an interview? Not if he didn't meet the preliminary requirements. I would love to see what Nick can do but taking that risk right now could easily take us off solid ground. I think the floor for Nick would be lower than with Brannen (with so many unknowns for NVE) and I don't think you take that risk if future realignment is still an option down the road. We can't really afford to take two steps back. I think Brannen's floor is probably more like 1 step back.

This of course assumes NVE already met minimum requirements for the position which I am not sure he did (or even what they are).

 

[JoeRunner89]

Just an honest assessment here but there's a lot of disassociation and racial undertoning within some of these posts... Maybe the former players just love Bob Huggins, maybe they just felt NVE was qualified enough to earn at least an interview, maybe just maybe they know a lot more about coaching on all levels than what's being insinuated in some of these comments

 

[waterhead]

Just an honest assessment here but there's a lot of disassociation and racial undertoning within some of these posts... Maybe the former players just love Bob Huggins, maybe they just felt NVE was qualified enough to earn at least an interview, maybe just maybe they know a lot more about coaching on all levels than what's being insinuated in some of these comments

I understand from previous posts you think there is a systemic problem in CBB about hiring black coaches. And there are probably objective stats to back up that position.

The problem though is we can't treat each individual hire we see with the same broad brush. We don't know (or at least I don't) what the qualifications or disqualifications were for this particular hire. He may not have even made the cut for interviews because he was disqualified for objective reasons which would have disqualified any coach of any color. Who knows? If he WAS qualified by the objective guidelines of the AD and then was not given an interview...we would have something to talk about. But again who knows? Perhaps a little more transparency would be in order for all universities and their guidelines for hiring to reduce speculation.

If NVE got his start at a low major and had some success and Brannen flopped (or even did so well he went to a blue blood) he could be in line the next time around. But this is a very high level to get your start. He is my all time favorite Bearcat so I would love to see him roaming the sidelines someday.

As for the player's opinions...I do not discount them. But imagine instead of using Twitter if they all got together as a team and marched into the board to have a heart felt discussion? Maybe the board and the players could come to an agreement on how to adjust hiring guidelines to reduce or eliminate any systemic bias. Maybe that could trickle over to other universities.

 

[JoeRunner89]

I understand from previous posts you think there is a systemic problem in CBB about hiring black coaches. And there are probably objective stats to back up that position.

The problem though is we can't treat each individual hire we see with the same broad brush. We don't know (or at least I don't) what the qualifications or disqualifications were for this particular hire. He may not have even made the cut for interviews because he was disqualified for objective reasons which would have disqualified any coach of any color. Who knows? If he WAS qualified by the objective guidelines of the AD and then was not given an interview...we would have something to talk about. But again who knows? Perhaps a little more transparency would be in order for all universities and their guidelines for hiring to reduce speculation.

If NVE got his start at a low major and had some success and Brannen flopped (or even did so well he went to a blue blood) he could be in line the next time around. But this is a very high level to get your start. He is my all time favorite Bearcat so I would love to see him roaming the sidelines someday.

As for the player's opinions...I do not discount them. But imagine instead of using Twitter if they all got together as a team and marched into the board to have a heart felt discussion? Maybe the board and the players could come to an agreement on how to adjust hiring guidelines to reduce or eliminate any systemic bias. Maybe that could trickle over to other universities.

I can respect your reply. At the end of the day NVE should of received an interview. It is what it is now, the million man March to the board shouldn't be necessary but I agree that something that extreme probably would be affective. I wish brannnen would hire some form of Bearcat on his coaching staff. I don't see Nick being an assistant in college since he's already been one in the NBA, essentially that's a downgrade really.. but yes, ofcourse the former players wanted thier guy, it would of been amazing if that were the case college is about traditions and the great programs continue that in some capacity once it is achieved over time. I will forever love smash mouth, in your face Bearcat basketball and I'm interested to see the type of players brannnen recruits

 

[juckerrules]

I can respect your reply. At the end of the day NVE should of received an interview. It is what it is now, the million man March to the board shouldn't be necessary but I agree that something that extreme probably would be affective. I wish brannnen would hire some form of Bearcat on his coaching staff. I don't see Nick being an assistant in college since he's already been one in the NBA, essentially that's a downgrade really.. but yes, ofcourse the former players wanted thier guy, it would of been amazing if that were the case college is about traditions and the great programs continue that in some capacity once it is achieved over time. I will forever love smash mouth, in your face Bearcat basketball and I'm interested to see the type of players brannnen recruits

I just want to see teams that can win in March...that know how to adjust when the system is not matching up well against a particular opponent or in a particular game. I don't care if they play smash mouth or dance around the court in rainbow unicorn tutus as long as they win

 

[cincrulz11]

Brannen is going after Antoine Pettway, the top recruiter at Alabama. He's been ranked as a top 10 recruiter by 247Sports for the past 3 classes.



Brannen isn't messing around. He seems to believe UC is a place that can land top recruits.

 

[TheRealMick]

Just an honest assessment here but there's a lot of disassociation and racial undertoning within some of these posts... Maybe the former players just love Bob Huggins, maybe they just felt NVE was qualified enough to earn at least an interview, maybe just maybe they know a lot more about coaching on all levels than what's being insinuated in some of these comments

I get your point. Flip side of your argument is Mick didn't have not ONE single white scholarship player his ENTIRE tenure. Did you think it was unfair no white players came here? I don't think race is a issue at Uc

 

[TheRealMick]

Brannen is going after Antoine Pettway, the top recruiter at Alabama. He's been ranked as a top 10 recruiter by 247Sports for the past 3 classes.



Brannen isn't messing around. He seems to believe UC is a place that can land top recruits.

pettway is home run hire. One of best if not best in South at recruiting. Might take close to mil to get him though

 

[M64W]

I can respect your reply. At the end of the day NVE should of received an interview. It is what it is now, the million man March to the board shouldn't be necessary but I agree that something that extreme probably would be affective. I wish brannnen would hire some form of Bearcat on his coaching staff. I don't see Nick being an assistant in college since he's already been one in the NBA, essentially that's a downgrade really.. but yes, ofcourse the former players wanted thier guy, it would of been amazing if that were the case college is about traditions and the great programs continue that in some capacity once it is achieved over time. I will forever love smash mouth, in your face Bearcat basketball and I'm interested to see the type of players brannnen recruits

Just because someone is an assistant in the NBA does not mean they are a better coach than assistant in college. NBA is a different game (no zones etc.). It would be a down grade in terms of money, not in Xs & Os, recruiting, work ethic, camaraderie etc.