Coach Tuberville

[david aka the TYZ]

Right, because the two int's in the final minutes were clearly because of coaching. smh

Shake your head all you want, in his body of work for two and a half years this team has underacheived based on talent. He didn't take over a rebuilding project. He took over a team at the top of the conference and the conference got weaker. He's brought in better talent to a team that was better than the rest of the conference and the opponents have gotten weaker. He's struggled to beat Miami of Ohio three straight years. The team he took over took Miami to the woodshed the previous several years. He's had better running backs and a QB that based on talent was at one point the highest rated QB in the country. He has probably ten good receiving targets to go to. Should be a HC and OC's dream. Yet we are mediocre.

If your QB throws bad INT's make a change or change the offense to utilize his strengths. That comes down to coaching. Marvin Lewis and Hue Jackson have done a good job of designing a gameplan to make Andy Dalton look good. Tuberville's answer to Kiel throwing picks is not to use the RB's more or run plays with safer throws, it's to run a QB keeper in throwing situations. After Kiel threw that pick vs. Memphis he ran him several times and Kiel got his bell rung because of it. I'm not blaming the hit specifically on coaching but the point is if you have an oft-injured QB that doesn't know how to not take a hit, why are you running him so much?

 

[bearcat8290]

Of course Miami is not the team it used to be The team of the eighties is long gone as are the players, however, Miami is solid, coach Golden has them going in the right direction and entering the game Thursday night, Miami was on the verge of entering the top 25. They had a nice win over Nebraska and were playing well. They fully expected to beat us Thursday and got a surprise. Tuberville is doing a good job recruiting and is bringing in many players that possess speed, (one thing ya can't teach). Terrill Gilbert and Byrce Jenkinson are perfect examples. Players that are smart with good speed. It was also wise to put Gilbert at safety rather than let him sit on the taxi squad at QB. I think overall, we need to spend more money on assistant coaches, keep the good ones that we want and give them a raise. UC has a history of nickle and diming assistant coaches. To me, coaching is everything. We're lucky to have Tuberville. Gran also did a nice job calling plays and the defense held up despite the freshman players and new defensive coordinator.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

4 de-commits in the past week? QB not with the team? 4-4 conference record? 7-5 overall? Highest paid non-P5 coach? And this guy wants an extension? That has to be a joke, right? This is a sinking ship and Tubs is the hapless captain.

 

[M64W]

You Got what you wanted

4 de-commits in the past week? QB not with the team? 4-4 conference record? 7-5 overall? Highest paid non-P5 coach? And this guy wants an extension? That has to be a joke, right? This is a sinking ship and Tubs is the hapless captain.

You got what you wanted--Kiel not the QB. Soon the coach will be gone and his staff--more recruits leave because the coach and his assistants are not there for them---then in a couple years you will want the next coach gone, and you will be complaining that UC can't keep any coaches around. Let's bring in Kerry Combs who has never even been a coordinator (ask OSU why they didn't name him Defensive Coordinator). The litany goes on and on. I would hate to have you in my foxhole!

 

[jacobkdoyle]

You got what you wanted--Kiel not the QB. Soon the coach will be gone and his staff--more recruits leave because the coach and his assistants are not there for them---then in a couple years you will want the next coach gone, and you will be complaining that UC can't keep any coaches around. Let's bring in Kerry Combs who has never even been a coordinator (ask OSU why they didn't name him Defensive Coordinator). The litany goes on and on. I would hate to have you in my foxhole!

Show me where I ever complained about not keeping coaches around. I'm one of the ones who says I don't mind being a stepping stone job as long as we are not P5. So you are wrong.

Show me where I ever said I want Kerry Coombs to be the head coach at UC. I'll save you the time bc I have never said that anywhere, and I never will. So you are wrong again.

Please don't accuse me of saying things that I have never said. I don't appreciate people misrepresenting my point of view.

 

[UCalum08]

In all seriousness, I'm not sure how Clinkscale still has a job. Wish I could underperform and show no progress and still have a job..

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

You got what you wanted--Kiel not the QB. Soon the coach will be gone and his staff--more recruits leave because the coach and his assistants are not there for them---then in a couple years you will want the next coach gone, and you will be complaining that UC can't keep any coaches around. Let's bring in Kerry Combs who has never even been a coordinator (ask OSU why they didn't name him Defensive Coordinator). The litany goes on and on. I would hate to have you in my foxhole!

Tubs needs to go. The only reason for keeping him was to have recruiting stability because he had some nice commits in Larkin and the CB kid from Florida. Well, now both have decommitted. It's time for a change. Next year BETTER be his last season here...

 

[AZ BEARCAT]

Show me where I ever complained about not keeping coaches around. I'm one of the ones who says I don't mind being a stepping stone job as long as we are not P5. So you are wrong.

Show me where I ever said I want Kerry Coombs to be the head coach at UC. I'll save you the time bc I have never said that anywhere, and I never will. So you are wrong again.

Please don't accuse me of saying things that I have never said. I don't appreciate people misrepresenting my point of view.

Moving forward, I think m64w and you are on the same page and frustrated with a season that had all the promise and then here we are now. Foxhole commit is his loyalty to UC just like yours, were all venting.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

4 de-commits in the past week? QB not with the team? 4-4 conference record? 7-5 overall? Highest paid non-P5 coach? And this guy wants an extension? That has to be a joke, right? This is a sinking ship and Tubs is the hapless captain.

It is normal for him to seek an extension, otherwise he would be a lame duck coach and recruiting would suffer. Same reason why they upped Mick and same reason Huggs had a rolling 4 year contract.

Isn't Herman paid more now? QB situation nobody knows real story except GK.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

It is normal for him to seek an extension, otherwise he would be a lame duck coach and recruiting would suffer. Same reason why they upped Mick and same reason Huggs had a rolling 4 year contract.

Isn't Herman paid more now? QB situation nobody knows real story except GK.

Yeah Herman will be higher paid next year. I get the lame duck thing, but recruiting can only be so stable when you are a middle of the pack G5 program. I just hear Tuberville and extension in the same sentence and it makes me feel sick to my stomach.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Eddie Gran is rumored to be the new OC at Kentucky. Tubby boy is building something special alright!!

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Eddie Gran is rumored to be the new OC at Kentucky. Tubby boy is building something special alright!!

Really bad week+ leading up to the bowl game. Wow.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Really bad week+ leading up to the bowl game. Wow.

Maybe I jumped the gun because UK fans were talking a lot about it. At this point, Gran is considered their top candidate. Not sure if he's gone for sure.

 

[bearcat8290]

I'm not a big supporter of Tuberville. If I were the AD, I would be looking tirelessly for a new coach and new coaching. I think when Bob Goin decided to remove Rick Minter and hire Dantonio, UC started football in the right direction. At that point, partially due to Minter's over 90 assistants in 10 years, Dantonio insisted that UC pay it's assistant coaches and keep them in the fold while he was coaching. UC did that and had success. Dantonio has recruited heavily in Cincinnati and Ohio spending alot of time in town, in Dayton, Cleveland and Toledo. He made huge strides in those communities and came away with great players. Tuberville spends too much time in Florida. My problems with Tuberville are as follows:

1.too many players getting in trouble. Remember the rash of problems we had a couple of years ago? That was awful and should never happen.

2.recruits too many JC players. Way to many for me. Anyone notice the recruits we are getting are most JC players. I think it's one reason Larkin decided on Northwestern. He sees UC sliding.

3.Too much recruiting in Florida. Tuberville is basically ignoring Ohio and Cincinnati. When I spoke to Steve Spect the St X coach at a UC game, he stated he welcomed UC to recruit his players, but UC's staff does not show at ANY of his practices and recruits nearly no one. That's ridiculous.

4. bowl performance is awful. Tuberville takes the bowl game to be a coaching holiday. At the Military bowl, we played with a third string QB. I can't imagine paying 3-4 thousand on tickets, food, transportation to that game only to have the coaching staff treat it like a holiday. That's why I don't go to bowl games anymore. Tuberville does not care if we win or loose. We've been trounced each year at bowl games during his tenure.

5. Tuberville wants too much money. Now he wants an extension. Are you kidding?

6. Tuberville has a loose style of coaching allowing for assistants to do much of the game planning and coaching. If that is going to be the case, he needs the money and needs to hire top flight assistants. Handing over the reigns of the defensive coordinator the job to a man already a assistant coach on the team tells me there is no money for assistant coaches or coordinators.

 

[M64W]

VIEW POINT

I'm not a big supporter of Tuberville. If I were the AD, I would be looking tirelessly for a new coach and new coaching. I think when Bob Goin decided to remove Rick Minter and hire Dantonio, UC started football in the right direction. At that point, partially due to Minter's over 90 assistants in 10 years, Dantonio insisted that UC pay it's assistant coaches and keep them in the fold while he was coaching. UC did that and had success. Dantonio has recruited heavily in Cincinnati and Ohio spending alot of time in town, in Dayton, Cleveland and Toledo. He made huge strides in those communities and came away with great players. Tuberville spends too much time in Florida. My problems with Tuberville are as follows:

1.too many players getting in trouble. Remember the rash of problems we had a couple of years ago? That was awful and should never happen.

2.recruits too many JC players. Way to many for me. Anyone notice the recruits we are getting are most JC players. I think it's one reason Larkin decided on Northwestern. He sees UC sliding.

3.Too much recruiting in Florida. Tuberville is basically ignoring Ohio and Cincinnati. When I spoke to Steve Spect the St X coach at a UC game, he stated he welcomed UC to recruit his players, but UC's staff does not show at ANY of his practices and recruits nearly no one. That's ridiculous.

4. bowl performance is awful. Tuberville takes the bowl game to be a coaching holiday. At the Military bowl, we played with a third string QB. I can't imagine paying 3-4 thousand on tickets, food, transportation to that game only to have the coaching staff treat it like a holiday. That's why I don't go to bowl games anymore. Tuberville does not care if we win or loose. We've been trounced each year at bowl games during his tenure.

5. Tuberville wants too much money. Now he wants an extension. Are you kidding?

6. Tuberville has a loose style of coaching allowing for assistants to do much of the game planning and coaching. If that is going to be the case, he needs the money and needs to hire top flight assistants. Handing over the reigns of the defensive coordinator the job to a man already a assistant coach on the team tells me there is no money for assistant coaches or coordinators.

1. Not that many problems--every school has problems---and I mean all schools
2. Again, not that many JC players---just your opinion---you don't have a clue why Larkin switched to NW
3. I don't care where the players come from, and I doubt seriously that they don't recruit players from Cincy and Ohio--players have to show an interest in UC or your wasting your time
4. I have never known a coach in my life that didn't want to win--that's a ridiculous statement. You have no clue how many hours the coaching staff puts into game preparation.
5. He doesn't want any more money. He wants and needs an extension to counter negative people out there calling for his head. Your negative claims hurt his recruiting.
6. This isn't high school coaching--all head coaches in college delegate responsibilities. At that level, you don't need a bunch of ball boys.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

1. Not that many problems--every school has problems---and I mean all schools
2. Again, not that many JC players---just your opinion---you don't have a clue why Larkin switched to NW
3. I don't care where the players come from, and I doubt seriously that they don't recruit players from Cincy and Ohio--players have to show an interest in UC or your wasting your time
4. I have never known a coach in my life that didn't want to win--that's a ridiculous statement. You have no clue how many hours the coaching staff puts into game preparation.
5. He doesn't want any more money. He wants and needs an extension to counter negative people out there calling for his head. Your negative claims hurt his recruiting.
6. This isn't high school coaching--all head coaches in college delegate responsibilities. At that level, you don't need a bunch of ball boys.

Have you guys headed out to Hawaii yet coach?

 

[M64W]

Leave on Tuesday

We leave on Tuesday. How about you?

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

We leave on Tuesday. How about you?

Wouldn't even spend money on gas to drive to get to Nippert to watch this team.

 

[M64W]

SOME FACTS

These are facts--not opinions:
1) There were only 38% of FBS schools with a better record than UC
2) UC's five losses were to teams within this 38%
3) This means there were 62% of teams with worse records

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why some of you are so down on the Bearcats and Coach T. I think a lot of it has to do with expectations--they were high (mainly due to offensive capabilities). See all of the true Bearcats in Hawaii.

 

[BCM]

We leave on Tuesday. How about you?

I wish I was rich