San Diego State is number 12 for the MWC.
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San Diego State is number 12 for the MWC.
Ralph you are in way over your head here. The big east is in shambles. Everyone not named Memphis, temple, Tulane or east Carolina wants out
How is it in shambles? If UC and UConn do not get an invite to the ACC or Big 12 or Big 10 an all sports conference consisting of UC, UConn, Temple, Memphis, Tulane, USF, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, and SMU is clearly superior to the Boise+11, MAC, C-USA, and Sunbelt. This new Big East would get a TV contract larger than any of the lesser 4 conferences. The BB would be far superior to any of the lesser 4 conferences.
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Something I never hear mentioned but I'm curious because of it's market size, are we so sure we're a more attractive fit for the ACC than South Florida?
Because of Florida State and Miami, ACC will not make that move. USF and the Tampa market are not lucrative enough for the ACC to want them with better universities to the north and south.
I feel for them though. I think UC and UConn will be fine after all of this, but it's hard to imagine USF not being out in the cold.
I feel for them though. I think UC and UConn will be fine after all of this, but it's hard to imagine USF not being out in the cold.
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Because of Florida State and Miami, ACC will not make that move. USF and the Tampa market are not lucrative enough for the ACC to want them with better universities to the north and south.
I feel for them though. I think UC and UConn will be fine after all of this, but it's hard to imagine USF not being out in the cold.
What if Florida State leaves? They are the most likely candidate to be poached. Another Florida team would make sense at that point.
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What if Florida State leaves? They are the most likely candidate to be poached. Another Florida team would make sense at that point.
But if BOTH Miami and Florida State leave, there is no reason to take USF. No natural rivalries, and that would lead UC and UCCON to the ACC.
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If and when sdsu, Houston and smu leave, we are down to uc, ul, Memphis, uconn, usf and temple. Even if Houston and smu stay, there's no way well get a tv deal of any significance. Factor in uc, uconn and usf publicly want out, it's as unstable as a league can getHow is it in shambles? If UC and UConn do not get an invite to the ACC or Big 12 or Big 10 an all sports conference consisting of UC, UConn, Temple, Memphis, Tulane, USF, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, and SMU is clearly superior to the Boise+11, MAC, C-USA, and Sunbelt. This new Big East would get a TV contract larger than any of the lesser 4 conferences. The BB would be far superior to any of the lesser 4 conferences.
If and when sdsu, Houston and smu leave, we are down to uc, ul, Memphis, uconn, usf and temple. Even if Houston and smu stay, there's no way well get a tv deal of any significance. Factor in uc, uconn and usf publicly want out, it's as unstable as a league can get
With no invites to ACC or Big 12 for UConn or UC it will be this. SDSU will stay in MWC, Houston and SMU will stay in Big East. The Big East will have 10 schools in an all sports confernce, UC, UConn, Temple, Memphis, USF, UCF, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane. This will be the #6 conference, first one below the Big10, Big12, SEC, PAC, and ACC. It's TV contract will pay more than the MWC, MAC, Sunbelt, or C-USA. Thus, without an invite to the ACC or Big12, this is the conference that UC should and will be in.
Any conference below the Power 5 is not going to great, but the Big East gives UC the best chance to get the BCS game that is guaranteed to the highest ranked Gang of 5 team and it is a decent basketball conference.
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Ralph for the time being I have no problem with your shortterm senarrio. But make no mistake about it. The Cats will be ACC bound sooner rather than later. It is a no brainer.With no invites to ACC or Big 12 for UConn or UC it will be this. SDSU will stay in MWC, Houston and SMU will stay in Big East. The Big East will have 10 schools in an all sports confernce, UC, UConn, Temple, Memphis, USF, UCF, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane. This will be the #6 conference, first one below the Big10, Big12, SEC, PAC, and ACC. It's TV contract will pay more than the MWC, MAC, Sunbelt, or C-USA. Thus, without an invite to the ACC or Big12, this is the conference that UC should and will be in.
Any conference below the Power 5 is not going to great, but the Big East gives UC the best chance to get the BCS game that is guaranteed to the highest ranked Gang of 5 team and it is a decent basketball conference.
Ralph for the time being I have no problem with your shortterm senarrio. But make no mistake about it. The Cats will be ACC bound sooner rather than later. It is a no brainer.
Mick said on his radio show last night that the Big10 and SEC will each take 2 of the current ACC teams, opening 4 spots in the ACC. I hope he is correct and he has "insider" knowledge.
Mick said on his radio show last night that the Big10 and SEC will each take 2 of the current ACC teams, opening 4 spots in the ACC. I hope he is correct and he has "insider" knowledge.
He has no insider knowledge. But then again, you don't really need any to see what is going to happen. The only question is the timing.
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He has no insider knowledge. But then again, you don't really need any to see what is going to happen. The only question is the timing.
He told you this?
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I have no doubt. It is just a matter of when.Mick said on his radio show last night that the Big10 and SEC will each take 2 of the current ACC teams, opening 4 spots in the ACC. I hope he is correct and he has "insider" knowledge.
He told you this?
No, it's just easy to know. You really think Mick Cronin knows the Big Ten and SEC plans? Seriously? C'mon.
He knows what UC is trying to do and maybe he knows that the ACC is interested should other teams leave. But he has zero idea of the BIg Ten or SEC's plans.
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He knows what his AD knows and rest assured Whit is plugged into the network and knows the landscape very well. While no one can say with 100% certainty what will happen TT and Mick are recruiting players and they absolutely understand this situation. No AD would tie his coaches hands that way. We will be in ACC.No, it's just easy to know. You really think Mick Cronin knows the Big Ten and SEC plans? Seriously? C'mon.
He knows what UC is trying to do and maybe he knows that the ACC is interested should other teams leave. But he has zero idea of the BIg Ten or SEC's plans.
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This is unconfirmed but I was told last night the Big 10 has settled on UNC & UVA and will move to invite them both in a few days.
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This is unconfirmed but I was told last night the Big 10 has settled on UNC & UVA and will move to invite them both in a few days.
He knows what his AD knows and rest assured Whit is plugged into the network and knows the landscape very well. While no one can say with 100% certainty what will happen TT and Mick are recruiting players and they absolutely understand this situation. No AD would tie his coaches hands that way. We will be in ACC.
Ok, so by this standard every coach in basketball, football, and every AD, President knows? So, how come no one is talking? No one knows. Everyone knows some and has their theories about the rest.
Regardless, I look forward the the day UC gets their ACC or Big 12 invite. The sooner the better.
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Cincycpaw it has been out there. The details haven't been put out there but all know more shuffling is coming and the Cats will be in the middle of it. We were late to the Dance but it appears we are in full ahead mode now. That is why TT,Sadium renovations and other proactive measures are being taken. You don't thnk the University is taking on this kind of investment without understanding where they are trying to go. Certainly Whit and others have a realistic idea of waht is happening. Be patient it is going to happen.Ok, so by this standard every coach in basketball, football, and every AD, President knows? So, how come no one is talking? No one knows. Everyone knows some and has their theories about the rest.
Regardless, I look forward the the day UC gets their ACC or Big 12 invite. The sooner the better.
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Told you Ralph. This is all playing out how I predicted. Never doubt The Mick
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No, it's just easy to know. You really think Mick Cronin knows the Big Ten and SEC plans? Seriously? C'mon.
He knows what UC is trying to do and maybe he knows that the ACC is interested should other teams leave. But he has zero idea of the BIg Ten or SEC's plans.
My whole point is that you don't know who he's talking to and what knowledge he knows. It doesn't appear anything is official yet, but he's much more involved than any of us are. To say he's as clueless as we are is blasphemy.