Conference realignment stuff

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Nothing's gonna happen until the Maryland law suit is settled. If law suit results in reducing the exit fee in half, I expect Georgia Tech to be as good as gone (to the Big Ten).
 
BearcatMick said:
It's weird for me to say this but Jason is absolutely correct.

No big12 school will leave the b12. They signed a GOR of 13 years. If they leave they forfeit all their tv money to the other b12 schools for the duration of the contract.

Fsu and Clemson have no other options. The b1g won't take fsu because they are not an elite academic school and the sec will not take fsu because of Florida. The b1g will not take Clemson and the sec already has sc. The big12 already extended invites before this mess to fsu and Clemson last summer. They were gone until Clemson got cold feet. They will make at least double in the b12 than acc.

You are correct about the sec and b1g taking other schools from the acc
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You are clueless, no current ACC school is going to go to the Big 12, if for no other reason than geography. If they cannot get in the Big 10 or SEC they will stay in the ACC.
 
ucdave said:
Nothing's gonna happen until the Maryland law suit is settled. If law suit results in reducing the exit fee in half, I expect Georgia Tech to be as good as gone (to the Big Ten).
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Maryland will pay nothing close to $52 million. I estimate the settlement will be around $15 million. The problem for the ACC is they cannot show damages. Maryland was immediately replaced with Louisville, the value of the ACC TV contract with ESPN did not go down with the departure of Maryland.
 
ralph1950 said:
Maryland will pay nothing close to $52 million. I estimate the settlement will be around $15 million. The problem for the ACC is they cannot show damages. Maryland was immediately replaced with Louisville, the value of the ACC TV contract with ESPN did not go down with the departure of Maryland.
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I think I read somewhere that the ACC exit fee before increasing it to $52 million was $20 million. So I don't see it dropping below that.
 
ralph1950 said:
You are clueless, no current ACC school is going to go to the Big 12, if for no other reason than geography. If they cannot get in the Big 10 or SEC they will stay in the ACC.
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Wrong again as usual. Just like everything you've said conference realignment related
 
ralph1950 said:
You are clueless, no current ACC school is going to go to the Big 12, if for no other reason than geography. If they cannot get in the Big 10 or SEC they will stay in the ACC.
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Well said Ralph ACC schools will only leave for SEC or B1G. I could easily see both FSU and Clemson even staying in the ACC (they both pushed for UofL).
 
BearcatMick said:
If and when sdsu, Houston and smu leave, we are down to uc, ul, Memphis, uconn, usf and temple. Even if Houston and smu stay, there's no way well get a tv deal of any significance. Factor in uc, uconn and usf publicly want out, it's as unstable as a league can get
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SDSU has one foot out the door ~ Boise State received a commitment that the MWC would make an offer to SDSU by Jan 31, and not accept anyone else in advance of settling that.

But Houston/SMU is not so certain ~ even a modest Big East TV contract would put them ahead of the MWC, without the special deal that Boise State received. Brian Murphy at Idaho Statesman
"We'll see where San Diego State takes us or not. That's the next probable, likely step. ... I don't know that we're going to have to get to January 31," Thompson said.

If San Diego State does remain in the league, Thompson expects the Mountain West to play the 2013 football season with 12 members. There has been talk about the league growing past 12 with Texas schools (Houston, SMU or UTEP).

"I would say with about 99 percent chance on January 4 that we will be either an 11-team or a 12-team league for 2013."
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So long as UC is in the Little East, its probably best to take two more "west of Cincinnati" schools, go to 12 and have:

Big East Coastal Division: Bearcats, UConn, Temple, ECU, USF, UCF
Big East Frontier Division: Houston, SMU, Tulane, Memphis, West#1, West#2.

Best to make one of the "west" teams not so far west, for flexibility down the track, so perhaps Rice as West#1 and Middle Tennessee as West#2.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
Well said Ralph ACC schools will only leave for SEC or B1G. I could easily see both FSU and Clemson even staying in the ACC (they both pushed for UofL).
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Ralph has about a 5% accuracy rate when it comes to accurately predicting conference re-alignment. You guys are woefully incorrect
 
ralph1950 said:
Nothing you have stated about conference realignment has been correct. Louisville did not join the Big 12, the Big 12 has not expanded, you were without a clue about Maryland and Rutgers.
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Louisville left the big east: correct
West Virginia left the big east: correct
Boise state never played in the big east: correct
The b1g will expand: correct
West Virginia to the b12: correct

Things you have been wrong on:
No one wants Louisville
No one wants West Virginia
Big east bball schools won't leave


Thing I will be correct on:
B12 will expand
Champions bowl between sec and b12 requires b12 to have ccg
B1g will expand
Sec will expand
Acc will lose at least 6 current teams
Uc and uconn will be in the acc
Houston and smu to the mwc
 
BearcatMick said:
Louisville left the big east: correct
West Virginia left the big east: correct
Boise state never played in the big east: correct
The b1g will expand: correct
West Virginia to the b12: correct

Things you have been wrong on:
No one wants Louisville
No one wants West Virginia
Big east bball schools won't leave


Thing I will be correct on:
B12 will expand
Champions bowl between sec and b12 requires b12 to have ccg
B1g will expand
Sec will expand
Acc will lose at least 6 current teams
Uc and uconn will be in the acc
Houston and smu to the mwc
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I believe much of this will happen too.
 
BearcatMick said:
Louisville left the big east: correct
West Virginia left the big east: correct
Boise state never played in the big east: correct
The b1g will expand: correct
West Virginia to the b12: correct

Things you have been wrong on:
No one wants Louisville
No one wants West Virginia
Big east bball schools won't leave


Thing I will be correct on:
B12 will expand
Champions bowl between sec and b12 requires b12 to have ccg
B1g will expand
Sec will expand
Acc will lose at least 6 current teams
Uc and uconn will be in the acc
Houston and smu to the mwc
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Except you never stated anything you state you were correct on. You stated over and over Louisville was going to the Big 12, wrong! You never stated anything about WVU going to Big 12 before it happened. You never stated anything about the Big 10 taking Maryland and Rutgers until ESPN reported it. Nice try at revising history by making claims you stated things that you never stated.

You are totally confused about the Big 12. There is no requirement in the Champions Bowl agreement that the Big 12 have 12 teams or a CCG. No ACC school has an interest in the Big 12, geography matters. The only conferences with any chance of adding a current ACC school are the Big 10 and SEC. the Big 12 is basically stuck at 10 because there are no available schools that add $30 million a year to the Big 12 TV contract, no current ACC schools are available to the Big 12 as none want to be Big 12 members.
 
There will be one thing The Ralph will be wrong about after today. The Bengals will embarrass themselves today and continue the longest playoff win drought. Everyone go to the UC game and support the Cats!!!
 
UCalum08 said:
There will be one thing The Ralph will be wrong about after today. The Bengals will embarrass themselves today and continue the longest playoff win drought. Everyone go to the UC game and support the Cats!!!
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Yeah the offense is embarrassing.
 
ralph1950 said:
Except you never stated anything you state you were correct on. You stated over and over Louisville was going to the Big 12, wrong! You never stated anything about WVU going to Big 12 before it happened. You never stated anything about the Big 10 taking Maryland and Rutgers until ESPN reported it. Nice try at revising history by making claims you stated things that you never stated.

You are totally confused about the Big 12. There is no requirement in the Champions Bowl agreement that the Big 12 have 12 teams or a CCG. No ACC school has an interest in the Big 12, geography matters. The only conferences with any chance of adding a current ACC school are the Big 10 and SEC. the Big 12 is basically stuck at 10 because there are no available schools that add $30 million a year to the Big 12 TV contract, no current ACC schools are available to the Big 12 as none want to be Big 12 members.
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UCalum08 said:
There will be one thing The Ralph will be wrong about after today. The Bengals will embarrass themselves today and continue the longest playoff win drought. Everyone go to the UC game and support the Cats!!!
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The Bengals did not embarrass themselves and UC lost.
 
Ralphy!!!! Wow I told you you would be wrong. I hope you had fun watching the ben-gals suck it up.a blind man could have saw that coming. Yesterday was a clear reminder why Cincinnati sports will always be a disappointment.
 

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