Conference realignment stuff
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I believe they will be either in the ACC, geographically preferrable, or the MWC.
ACC or Big 12 would be terrific.
MWC would suck, but not as bad as CUSA, MAC, or having no conference.
I still have hopes and am optimistic about UC being in the Big 12 or ACC come 2014.
BearcatMick
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We've already gone over this Ralph. They are binding their time until the Maryland lawsuit is over. When Maryland gets out of the acc paying significantly less than 53 mil, the sec/big12/b1g will poach the acc. That's when UC moves in with uconn
The problem is Houston, smu and sdsu are likely heading to the mwc next year which will make the big east football league horrible or non existent for 2013. So we may see a situation where we join a lesser conference in football only and join with the catholic 7 for a year in all other sports until we get an acc invite
The problem is Houston, smu and sdsu are likely heading to the mwc next year which will make the big east football league horrible or non existent for 2013. So we may see a situation where we join a lesser conference in football only and join with the catholic 7 for a year in all other sports until we get an acc invite
Houston and SMU are not likely going to the MWC as they will make more money in the new Big East. The MWC gave away the store to keep Boise, Boise will be playing their games on Saturday for $500,000; everyone else will be playing their games on Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday for $200,000.
UC will stay in the new Big East until one of the Power 5 conferences comes calling. The new Big East will pay UC more than any other option.
BearcatMick
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Lots of incorrect statements made by Ralph above. 1)the acc is not included as a power conference, especially after vt/Miami/fsu/Clemson leave
2)the big east is not going to get a lucrative tv deal, especially with the uncertainty of the league. There is no business on earth that will pay the big east big time tv money especially with Boise gone and even more so after uc/uconn/Houston and smu publicly stating that they want out.
The new big east is in shambles and losing more members by the day. How that translates into more money than a stabilized mwc that's picking off the programs(including the most nationally prominent one) is Ralph world economics
Ralph I appreciate your insight on most topics but you are way out of your league here
A destabilized big east with teams publicly stating they want to leave is not going to get a better tv deal than the mwc
2)the big east is not going to get a lucrative tv deal, especially with the uncertainty of the league. There is no business on earth that will pay the big east big time tv money especially with Boise gone and even more so after uc/uconn/Houston and smu publicly stating that they want out.
The new big east is in shambles and losing more members by the day. How that translates into more money than a stabilized mwc that's picking off the programs(including the most nationally prominent one) is Ralph world economics
Ralph I appreciate your insight on most topics but you are way out of your league here
A destabilized big east with teams publicly stating they want to leave is not going to get a better tv deal than the mwc
UCalum08
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For some reason, over the past few days I think going to the Big 12 would be the best. Yes, the football competition would be the toughest but we can adapt and compete. I also can see Cincinnati playing very well in the basketball conference as well. I think the Big 12 would be the best spot because of the ultimate stability it seems to have. For some reason I feel like the ACC will be nothing more than what the Big East was before all the movement. Just an opinion.
Bearcat_NTS
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Cincinnati and Connecticut will be invited to the ACC after bowl season, no latter than mid to late January.
The ACC is a Power Conference, they are one of the Big 5, you must have been asleep when they got ND to join for all but football, got a guaranteed spot in the $55 million Orange Bowl, a long term deal from ESPN paying each $20 million a year.
While the new Big East is not going to get "big time Power 5 conference money" the new Big East will get more TV money than the MWC, C-USA, MAC, or Sun Belt. UC, UConn, Temple, USF, UCF, Memphis, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane, is a better football conference than the Boise plus 11 league and the basketball is heads above the MAC, MWC, Sunbelt, C-USA.
Will you buy us all pizza at LaRosa's if that does not happen?
Or in the alternative shave your head?
You can do either on Feb. 1, your choice.
My hope is that Cincinnati lands in the Big 12, but it seems more likely that they will be poached by the ACC when all is said and done. That said, it may take another year before the dominoes start to fall. It's all speculation at this point. I think Babcock would rather stay in the Big East than join the MWC. Again, that's speculation on my part.
I miss LaRosa's. And real chili.
I miss LaRosa's. And real chili.
UCalum08
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I wonder what TT would want...for us to go to the Big 12 or ACC?
"Boise State got the Mountain West to make several television contract concessions.
The Mountain West will sell Boise State home games separately from the overall conference television package. Also, if Boise State appears in a Bowl Championship Series contest it will be allowed to keep half the revenue generated. Most leagues share bowl revenue equally."
If your Houston or SMU you are going to rush to join this? NOT!
Boise plays in one of the future 3 BCS non AQ bowls (each of the participants receives $17.5 Million), Boise gets $8.75 million, the other 11 MWC schools get $795,454 each, but should one of the 11 other schools play in one of the 3 future BCS non AQ Bowls the money gets split equally 12 ways, $1,458,333each. Great deal if you are Bosie, not so much if you are one of the + 11.
The Mountain West will sell Boise State home games separately from the overall conference television package. Also, if Boise State appears in a Bowl Championship Series contest it will be allowed to keep half the revenue generated. Most leagues share bowl revenue equally."
If your Houston or SMU you are going to rush to join this? NOT!
Boise plays in one of the future 3 BCS non AQ bowls (each of the participants receives $17.5 Million), Boise gets $8.75 million, the other 11 MWC schools get $795,454 each, but should one of the 11 other schools play in one of the 3 future BCS non AQ Bowls the money gets split equally 12 ways, $1,458,333each. Great deal if you are Bosie, not so much if you are one of the + 11.
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From a very narrow view at the 2013-2014 BCS, maybe the Broke East is an easy path to get back to a BCS game next year. Obviously, we'd rather be in the ACC, BIG or Big 12 but if it doesn't happen prior to next year, hopefully Tommy T can strike right away and get in the BCS for a big pay day and some exposure. Looking at the below opponents, completely do-able. Hey...just trying to look for some bright spot here even if it is completely short-sighted.
Big East
Louisville
UConn
Purdue
UCF
Memphis
Rutgers
USF
[San Diego St.]
Non-Conference
Northwestern State
Illinois
Miami (OH)
Big East
Louisville
UConn
Purdue
UCF
Memphis
Rutgers
USF
[San Diego St.]
Non-Conference
Northwestern State
Illinois
Miami (OH)
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Houston's administration issued a statement late Monday, reported the Houston Chronicle's Joseph Duarte in his blog.
The statement did not mention the Big East at all and, as many message board posters pointed out Monday night, read a bit like a resume for other conferences that may be considering adding Houston - namely the MWC:
http://blog.chron.com/cougars/2012/...disappointed-in-latest-realignment-shuffling/
Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN
Would be surprised if they don't RT @Mike_BTN: @McMurphyESPN Think the MWC will get to 12 for next season?
UTEP, SMU and Houston interested in MWC
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08:14 AM ET 01.02 | The MWC may not be done yet. Why stop at 11? With the feeble state of the Big East and a wide-open lane to take control of the smaller conference realm, the Mountain West has room to get aggressive after Boise State decided to stay in the Mountain West and eschew the Big East. Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said [Monday] the league has been in talks with 3-5 teams. San Diego State -- which originally planned to join the Big East in a package deal with Boise -- is one of them. A league source says UTEP, SMU and Houston have recently shown interest in becoming members. BYU is the biggest prize available, but the Cougars seem committed to independence -- at least for now.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/359787-utep-smu-and-houston-interested-in-mwc
The statement did not mention the Big East at all and, as many message board posters pointed out Monday night, read a bit like a resume for other conferences that may be considering adding Houston - namely the MWC:
http://blog.chron.com/cougars/2012/...disappointed-in-latest-realignment-shuffling/
Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN
Would be surprised if they don't RT @Mike_BTN: @McMurphyESPN Think the MWC will get to 12 for next season?
UTEP, SMU and Houston interested in MWC
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08:14 AM ET 01.02 | The MWC may not be done yet. Why stop at 11? With the feeble state of the Big East and a wide-open lane to take control of the smaller conference realm, the Mountain West has room to get aggressive after Boise State decided to stay in the Mountain West and eschew the Big East. Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said [Monday] the league has been in talks with 3-5 teams. San Diego State -- which originally planned to join the Big East in a package deal with Boise -- is one of them. A league source says UTEP, SMU and Houston have recently shown interest in becoming members. BYU is the biggest prize available, but the Cougars seem committed to independence -- at least for now.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/359787-utep-smu-and-houston-interested-in-mwc
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...give-san-diego-state-aztecs-first-option-join
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BearcatMick
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Ralph you are in way over your head here. The big east is in shambles. Everyone not named Memphis, temple, Tulane or east Carolina wants out
Which would be absolute best case scenerio for this university IMO. The 2005-2012 Big East was the absolute perfect level for our basketball and football teams to be playing at. Both programs benefitted greatly. If we could recapture mostly the same conference under the ACC banner, I would love it.
UCalum08
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I totally agree with everything you say there and it makes the most sense. My question is, and maybe it can't be answered but would the "new" ACC dissolve just like the BE? Right of the top of my head, I say no way, I would like to think the ACC is under better leadership than the current BE and wouldn't let it happen.
Bearcat_NTS
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I would love to share some LaRosa's pizza with you Ralph