Cronin confirms Greg Anthony steps in...

[Not Guilty]

Mike also said he thought one angle showed it touched his foot but another angle showed it didn't. Oh, and Greg Doyle said it did touch his foot. Not sure what the first tweet has anything to do with it? They needed to see more angles and saw the one they needed. Wrong way to handle it but right call. It didn't cost UC the game anymore than the no goal-tending call helped UC.

You are misrepresenting what Mike said. He originally thought the call was going to be Louisville ball (just like Seth and me) but then saw the last replay that became available during the second review and became convinced it did not touch Shaq.

‏@tsnmike Feb 22

And after all that, refs get it wrong. Nice.

‏@tsnmike Feb 22

“@ecountry411: It touched Cincy players foot.” I thought so from BL angle but corner angle said no.

BL being baseline, which is the angle you swear you see the ball change directions. In reality, it was bouncing before it got to the area around Shaq's foot, took another small bounce or two after it went past his foot, and then rolled out of bounds. Maybe that bouncing made it look like it changed directions. The angle from the other side of the court near the UC bench corner showed that it didn't touch Shaq's foot.

I have no idea what Doyel said. Haven't read him. I do know he was at the game, probably limiting the clarity of his review and possibly not seeing the last review that became available.

 

[Not Guilty]

Mike DeCourcy is definitely not an objective basketball writer. Mike is good buddies with Mick and has been an avid supporter and defender of his for a long time. It's nice to have a national writer who's a friend of the program but at times it's also bordered on unprofessional.

Whatever. I disagree. He in no way roots for UC during the game. If you read his timeline he was plenty critical of calls that went in favor of UC. He has defended Mick against critics who he feels haven't understood the difficulty of the job he has done. But his job as an analyst is to give opinions about the sport he covers and quite frankly at this point I think history is going to judge him very favorably in that argument. He also happens to be agreeing with Seth Davis. Is Seth unprofessional in his support of Bearcat basketball?

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Do you guys need some cheese with all that whine? Get over it!!! You guys are ruining this board!!!!

 

[Not Guilty]

Do you guys need some cheese with all that whine? Get over it!!! You guys are ruining this board!!!!

This thread is specifically dedicated to the review of that play. Don't read it if it bothers you.

 

[TheLongHaul]

You are misrepresenting what Mike said. He originally thought the call was going to be Louisville ball (just like Seth and me) but then saw the last replay that became available during the second review and became convinced it did not touch Shaq.

‏@tsnmike Feb 22

And after all that, refs get it wrong. Nice.

‏@tsnmike Feb 22

“@ecountry411: It touched Cincy players foot.” I thought so from BL angle but corner angle said no.

BL being baseline, which is the angle you swear you see the ball change directions. In reality, it was bouncing before it got to the area around Shaq's foot, took another small bounce or two after it went past his foot, and then rolled out of bounds. Maybe that bouncing made it look like it changed directions. The angle from the other side of the court near the UC bench corner showed that it didn't touch Shaq's foot.

I have no idea what Doyel said. Haven't read him. I do know he was at the game, probably limiting the clarity of his review and possibly not seeing the last review that became available.

Alright, whatever. I saw it hit his foot, you disagree, fine. So be it. IMO at the end of the day the refs got it right. Also in the end it didn't matter, UC gave Russ Smith too good of a look and he came through for them and knocked down a huge shot.

 

[UCBearcats]

Whatever. I disagree. He in no way roots for UC during the game. If you read his timeline he was plenty critical of calls that went in favor of UC. He has defended Mick against critics who he feels haven't understood the difficulty of the job he has done. But his job as an analyst is to give opinions about the sport he covers and quite frankly at this point I think history is going to judge him very favorably in that argument. He also happens to be agreeing with Seth Davis. Is Seth unprofessional in his support of Bearcat basketball?

I know for a fact that Mike and Mick are close personal friends but it doesn't matter. Bottom line is that we lost the game and whining about refs makes you sounds like a squid. If UC doesn't have 3 or 4 stupid turnovers in the back court leading to easy buckets for UL we win the game going away. If the defense gets a stop on any of those final possessions we win the game. We didn't lose the game because of the refs and I for one think they actually called the game very fairly. They just blew it on their execution of handling the replay.

 

[Bulldog01]

Cronin should've went to HackaHarrell in final minutes. On topic though Anthony should get suspended rest of season. Mick has to stop drooling over Pitino every time we play them.

 

[Bulldog01]

Rubles and Guyn cost us game more than blown call did. Its nothing we can do about refs but I'll rather see Caupain and Lawrence in game during crunch time.

 

[L-T]

SMU may be the best home team in the league but they haven't performed nearly as well on the road. They will be on the road in the league tourney and NCAA. I think UC is the best team in the league and will demonstrate that in the League Tourney.

I said best team in the league "right now". They just manhandled UCONN "on the road" by 9, so Saturday will be a good comparison how we compare "right now" to them. It was just a couple weeks ago when they blew us off the court by 21. Because they have a good offense to go with a defense that is close to ours, and they are young and seem to be coming into their own, they are a much better team today that earlier in the year when we beat them here.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Cronin should've went to HackaHarrell in final minutes. On topic though Anthony should get suspended rest of season. Mick has to stop drooling over Pitino every time we play them.

They had been told all week to hack Harrell. Mick said as much in his post game. Mick Doesn't drool over Pitino. He has beaten him quite a few times.

 

[Bearcat_NTS]

Please...Titus had 14 rebounds most of which were in key times. He was not the problem. Jackson committing 2 early fouls basically left Titus to fend for himself...

 

[L-T]

Alright, whatever. I saw it hit his foot, you disagree, fine. So be it. IMO at the end of the day the refs got it right. Also in the end it didn't matter, UC gave Russ Smith too good of a look and he came through for them and knocked down a huge shot.

^^^^^^
The bottom line!

 

[JasonS]

Mike DeCourcy is definitely not an objective basketball writer. Mike is good buddies with Mick and has been an avid supporter and defender of his for a long time. It's nice to have a national writer who's a friend of the program but at times it's also bordered on unprofessional.

Mike is anything but unprofessional. You should go back and read his article of the game. He gave UL a ton of praise and spent the majority of the time in that article talking about "Russdiculous" and his game winner. Yes, he is friends with Mick, but that doesn't make him unprofessional. Not even close.

 

[Not Guilty]

I said best team in the league "right now". They just manhandled UCONN "on the road" by 9, so Saturday will be a good comparison how we compare "right now" to them. It was just a couple weeks ago when they blew us off the court by 21. Because they have a good offense to go with a defense that is close to ours, and they are young and seem to be coming into their own, they are a much better team today that earlier in the year when we beat them here.

Their offense in league play is a 0.6 points per 100 possessions better than UC's (their defense is 1.3 points per 100 possessions worse). That's good for 4th in the league. Hopefully they can beat Louisville at home though. That should be a great game.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I said best team in the league "right now". They just manhandled UCONN "on the road" by 9, so Saturday will be a good comparison how we compare "right now" to them. It was just a couple weeks ago when they blew us off the court by 21. Because they have a good offense to go with a defense that is close to ours, and they are young and seem to be coming into their own, they are a much better team today that earlier in the year when we beat them here.

I think in between those two games they lost to Temple. I think they are a good team but I still think they are suspect on the road. They also lost to USF on the road. Beating UCONN on the road was a nice win no doubt. Still like us on a neutral floor.

 

[Not Guilty]

Rubles and Guyn cost us game more than blown call did. Its nothing we can do about refs but I'll rather see Caupain and Lawrence in game during crunch time.

Rubles was a monster on the glass, which we badly needed because we shot so poorly.

Guyn is an enigma because we needed his defense (he was mostly on Russ and did a great job) but he simply isn't a point guard. With so many stoppages down the stretch, Cronin was constantly playing offense/defense with him and Troy.

But he did have some brutal turnovers that led to easy layups.

 

[bearcats5]

Guess who was just announced as a commentator for the Final Four and National Championship: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2014-02-25/commentator-teams-announced-march-madness-coverage

 

[Not Guilty]

I know for a fact that Mike and Mick are close personal friends but it doesn't matter. Bottom line is that we lost the game and whining about refs makes you sounds like a squid. If UC doesn't have 3 or 4 stupid turnovers in the back court leading to easy buckets for UL we win the game going away. If the defense gets a stop on any of those final possessions we win the game. We didn't lose the game because of the refs and I for one think they actually called the game very fairly. They just blew it on their execution of handling the replay.

Multiple things I take issue with:

The officials were terrible. All the way around. If that makes it fair because they made bad calls both ways, so be it, but I'd prefer "competent" or even "good."

And just because they made bad calls doesn't mean UC bears no responsibility in the loss. There was a lot of things that could have been a lot better on UC's part. I have never said otherwise.

But if that review is given to them. They have the ball up 3 with 1:25 to go. They either get fouled and go to the line in the double bonus, or they get to run the clock down under a minute. Probably the latter. But that puts them in an extremely good position to win. It was a decisive call. I don't know why people on a UC message board are so surprised that UC fans are upset about it.

Nice use of squid though.

 

[Bulldog01]

They had been told all week to hack Harrell. Mick said as much in his post game. Mick Doesn't drool over Pitino. He has beaten him quite a few times.[/QUOTE]
So we have selfish player's?

 

[JasonS]

They had been told all week to hack Harrell. Mick said as much in his post game. Mick Doesn't drool over Pitino. He has beaten him quite a few times.

So we have selfish player's?[/QUOTE]

Because they didn't execute, that makes them selfish?