Deveroes

[UCalum08]

Again, they get as good if not better competition playing against each other in open gym, if Mick thought "the league" was a valuable off-season asset he would have them playing. Its open gym with an announcer

A really obnoxious announcer at that. I must admit, when I was in my early 20's I got really excited for these summer games. I am 28 now and could give 2 chits if our guys play. I live not even a 10 min. drive from Woodward and won't waste my time. I've been to a dozen of games and they are nothing special. None of it translate to how players play during the season. I know its always nice to see incoming new recruits but that really is about it. I'll just wait til November.

 

[bearcat2321]

A really obnoxious announcer at that. I must admit, when I was in my early 20's I got really excited for these summer games. I am 28 now and could give 2 chits if our guys play. I live not even a 10 min. drive from Woodward and won't waste my time. I've been to a dozen of games and they are nothing special. None of it translate to how players play during the season. I know its always nice to see incoming new recruits but that really is about it. I'll just wait til November.

This league is where die hard fans are born. I've been going since it was at Purcell Marian. It was ALWAYS multiple NBA players playing. When UC and Xavier get couple more players in NBA the better for summer league.

 

[Chad Brendel]

Deveroes stated today. After looking at the box scores no uc players played, but I did noticed a ton of xu guys played. I sure hope they do end up playing its fun for the fans

The only two guys that have told me they have interest in playing is Johnson and Morman. I don't expect any of the rest to play with any regularity, if at all...

 

[bearcat2321]

The only two guys that have told me they have interest in playing is Johnson and Morman. I don't expect any of the rest to play with any regularity, if at all...

Kj probably dreamed about playing in these games since kid. That's what's up Kj your becoming fan favorite buddy. Keep up hard work

 

[Antonio]

As a long long long time fan of this league, dating back to the Chicken on the Run days of the very early 90's, I just want to say UC's waning commitment to this league saddens me. I know Mick is sour on the league and the sloppiness of play, lack of coaching, or negative influence of the sideline coaching that happens, but if anyone can honestly point to any regular season losses sustained due to anything that happened in the course of the few weeks of this league in the summer, I am all ears.

On the other hand, having been a teenager who attended this league, and having seen other even younger kids loyally attend and get excited to see Bearcats of the past, present, and future, I feel it's an important way to grow and win fan support. The league caters to a different crowd than the UCATS crowd (although to be fair some big time UCATS are loyal attendees too), and I think anything UC can do that continues to build fan support is important.

Seeing a team of non-UC recruits running out there for Slats, in a year when UC has a large amount of incoming players, was very frustrating. I know the Slats owner has long been committed to and happy about having the team with the biggest UC connection.

Without UC support, it will be hard for this league to survive. And that's really unfortunate, for the city, for the longtime fans, and for the small businesses and people who have been associated with it for years. If I, as a loyal Bearcat fan, am upset about it, I can only imagine how it is playing for folks who are not nearly as committed to the UC program as I am, and need things like this league to secure their commitment to UC.

 

[Bearcat22]

As a long long long time fan of this league, dating back to the Chicken on the Run days of the very early 90's, I just want to say UC's waning commitment to this league saddens me. I know Mick is sour on the league and the sloppiness of play, lack of coaching, or negative influence of the sideline coaching that happens, but if anyone can honestly point to any regular season losses sustained due to anything that happened in the course of the few weeks of this league in the summer, I am all ears.

On the other hand, having been a teenager who attended this league, and having seen other even younger kids loyally attend and get excited to see Bearcats of the past, present, and future, I feel it's an important way to grow and win fan support. The league caters to a different crowd than the UCATS crowd (although to be fair some big time UCATS are loyal attendees too), and I think anything UC can do that continues to build fan support is important.

Seeing a team of non-UC recruits running out there for Slats, in a year when UC has a large amount of incoming players, was very frustrating. I know the Slats owner has long been committed to and happy about having the team with the biggest UC connection.

Without UC support, it will be hard for this league to survive. And that's really unfortunate, for the city, for the longtime fans, and for the small businesses and people who have been associated with it for years. If I, as a loyal Bearcat fan, am upset about it, I can only imagine how it is playing for folks who are not nearly as committed to the UC program as I am, and need things like this league to secure their commitment to UC.

Great first post. I have to admit that I've been on the other side of the argument, being ok with UC's lack of involvement, but you make some really good points. I'm not sure I ever really thought about the community impact.

 

[Chad Brendel]

As a long long long time fan of this league, dating back to the Chicken on the Run days of the very early 90's, I just want to say UC's waning commitment to this league saddens me. I know Mick is sour on the league and the sloppiness of play, lack of coaching, or negative influence of the sideline coaching that happens, but if anyone can honestly point to any regular season losses sustained due to anything that happened in the course of the few weeks of this league in the summer, I am all ears.

On the other hand, having been a teenager who attended this league, and having seen other even younger kids loyally attend and get excited to see Bearcats of the past, present, and future, I feel it's an important way to grow and win fan support. The league caters to a different crowd than the UCATS crowd (although to be fair some big time UCATS are loyal attendees too), and I think anything UC can do that continues to build fan support is important.

Seeing a team of non-UC recruits running out there for Slats, in a year when UC has a large amount of incoming players, was very frustrating. I know the Slats owner has long been committed to and happy about having the team with the biggest UC connection.

Without UC support, it will be hard for this league to survive. And that's really unfortunate, for the city, for the longtime fans, and for the small businesses and people who have been associated with it for years. If I, as a loyal Bearcat fan, am upset about it, I can only imagine how it is playing for folks who are not nearly as committed to the UC program as I am, and need things like this league to secure their commitment to UC.

First, the NCAA changed the rule this year so first year players have to be split up like the veterans. Only two players per team applies to everyone now.

Second, with the addition of summer workouts the team is on the court 5-6 days a week on top of their strength and conditioning requirements. 2-3 days of workouts and 3 days of open gym in house and this year they have full scale practice starting in mid July for the Bahamas trip.

There just isn't the free time for the league like there has been in the past...

 

[JasonS]

First, the NCAA changed the rule this year so first year players have to be split up like the veterans. Only two players per team applies to everyone now.

Second, with the addition of summer workouts the team is on the court 5-6 days a week on top of their strength and conditioning requirements. 2-3 days of workouts and 3 days of open gym in house and this year they have full scale practice starting in mid July for the Bahamas trip.

There just isn't the free time for the league like there has been in the past...

Yeah, I wouldn't blame UC for not having their players participate. I would blame the NCAA. This league was only worthwhile to UC by letting all the players get used to playing with each other. Now, since you can't have all the new players on the same team, what's the point?

 

[IDC]

I get the aspect of trying to get fans involved in the program more, but it seems like Mick is trying to do that with Fountain Square practice last year, and open practice before the Creighton tourney game 2 years ago.

Does anyone who's not currently a fan even know about the league? I don't know how many new fans it would bring in. It seems like Mick had the right idea with Fountain Square by going for the corporate type of people who have the money. Not many that attend Woodward would be able to impact the program financially.

I'd rather the team spend the time in the weight room and prepare for the 40 minutes of hell Mick is about to unleash on the AAC.

Lastly, the point about 2 guys per team is very valid. What good will that do in terms of developing chemistry?

 

[UCalum08]

I get the aspect of trying to get fans involved in the program more, but it seems like Mick is trying to do that with Fountain Square practice last year, and open practice before the Creighton tourney game 2 years ago.

Does anyone who's not currently a fan even know about the league? I don't know how many new fans it would bring in. It seems like Mick had the right idea with Fountain Square by going for the corporate type of people who have the money. Not many that attend Woodward would be able to impact the program financially.

I'd rather the team spend the time in the weight room and prepare for the 40 minutes of hell Mick is about to unleash on the AAC.

Lastly, the point about 2 guys per team is very valid. What good will that do in terms of developing chemistry?

Great post. Took the thoughts right out of my mind.

 

[Antonio]

First, the NCAA changed the rule this year so first year players have to be split up like the veterans. Only two players per team applies to everyone now.

Second, with the addition of summer workouts the team is on the court 5-6 days a week on top of their strength and conditioning requirements. 2-3 days of workouts and 3 days of open gym in house and this year they have full scale practice starting in mid July for the Bahamas trip.

There just isn't the free time for the league like there has been in the past...

XU is going to Brazil this summer. Last time I checked they are still a D1 NCAA team like UC, with the same summer rules and limits. Farr, Reynolds, and Stainbrook all played Sunday, and their incoming freshman studs seem to be likely to make an appearance. NKU is also heavily participating as in years past.

I am not saying we want to emulate XU or NKU, just saying it looks bad--as though NKU and XU are more committed to the community in Cincy than UC is. At the very least, I agree with other posters that if UC's been fairly clear to players that participating is not a priority, it should be made clear. The last thing I want is our players thinking they are better than something like this, that it doesn't matter, that community organizations which rely on UC Hoops don't matter, are beneath them, etc. UC has had TONS of success in previous seasons where our players spent time playing in this league. It's not like it has been a recipe for program disaster.

 

[Chad Brendel]

Players aren't showing up. How much more clear does it need to be???

 

[bearcat jeff]

Personally with all the new parts I'd rather see this team working together than playing a city league. You can pick up some bad habits in summer ball and there has to be some continuity built between these guys. Don't get me wrong I enjoy going down and watching them play but all that matters to me is the season and what best prepares them for that.

 

[Bearcat Rob]

Players aren't showing up. How much more clear does it need to be???

So no uc player will will play one game all summer?

 

[Chad Brendel]

So no uc player will will play one game all summer?

Johnson and Morman have told me they intend to play, but the league has not received their paperwork. Other than those two, I do not expect anyone else to participate at this point...

 

[Bearcat Rob]

Johnson and Morman have told me they intend to play, but the league has not received their paperwork. Other than those two, I do not expect anyone else to participate at this point...

Ok thanks. Hopefully they do a midnight madness or something like that then because i believe it really helps build the excitement for the season and i really cant wait to see the new guys (thats why im disappointed about deveroes cuz i love seeing some bearcat basketball in the summer but i understand). I didnt mind the idea of fountain square but the weather conditions(which prevented any actual basketball from being played) and the fact that half the team was there left me feeling dissapointed, i want to see a live scrimmage or competive drills with the whole team.

 

[bearcat2321]

We gotta show up and show out at these games. Its time to take our city back and let all young basketball players ln area who the ALPHA DOGS are in this city. We should always at least show up to games and be active with community in.

 

[Scheids21]

We gotta show up and show out at these games. Its time to take our city back and let all young basketball players ln area who the ALPHA DOGS are in this city. We should always at least show up to games and be active with community in.

What?

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Could careless if they play in a glorified pick up game. If they are working on their games I'm fine. Baseball is heating up and football is on the way. Lots of things going on to keep Cincinnati sport fans occupied. If businesses are relying on the income generated by the deveroes summer league they are in trouble anyway.

 

[UCalum08]

Could careless if they play in a glorified pick up game. If they are working on their games I'm fine. Baseball is heating up and football is on the way. Lots of things going on to keep Cincinnati sport fans occupied. If businesses are relying on the income generated by the deveroes summer league they are in trouble anyway.

No doubt. I'm sure those $3 donations are really keeping places alive lol. I would much rather hear about our players going to NBA camps and training with the best. Deveroes has been busted for years.