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[cincycpaw]

Agreed. Cronin would have got slammed if the play was Brooks and he missed the shot/got it stripped. You have to go with Cumberland and hope be makes something happen. Unfortunately he shoots the ball to low to really just rise up and shoot over people in the middle of the lane like Evan's could have driving.

Well a coach shouldnt do stuff to not get slammed

But if you’ve seen how weak Brooks has been with the ball all year, having him take the final shot on purposes would be stupid.

Cronin made sure the best player had the ball in his hands. Smart move. And Cumberland will likely win more of those games then lose them over time.

 

[cincrulz11]

Well a coach shoulda do stuff to not get slammed

But if you’ve seen how weak Brooks has been with the ball all year, having him take the final shot on purposes would be stupid.

Cronin made sure the best player had the ball in his hands. Smart move. And Cumberland will likely win more of those games then lose them over time.

brooks couldn't even grab the loose ball after cumberlands shot got blocked.

 

[Alum2013]

Well a coach shouldnt do stuff to not get slammed

But if you’ve seen how weak Brooks has been with the ball all year, having him take the final shot on purposes would be stupid.

Cronin made sure the best player had the ball in his hands. Smart move. And Cumberland will likely win more of those games then lose them over time.

Totally agree. Brooks is one of the weakest big men with the ball I've seen in a long time.

Again, I didn't watch the game but I feel like there's no time that Jennifer should be playing 38min a game that's not OT. Even if the other people aren't playing great, it's not THAT much of a drop off and he needs a breather.

 

[cincrulz11]

Totally agree. Brooks is one of the weakest big men with the ball I've seen in a long time.

Again, I didn't watch the game but I feel like there's no time that Jennifer should be playing 38min a game that's not OT. Even if the other people aren't playing great, it's not THAT much of a drop off and he needs a breather.

the problem is jenifer only had a usage rate of 9 and 5 of his 7 points came at the very end. if he's this greatly improved player he has to be a part of the offense.


i understand jenifer is comfortable in rarely shooting and passing to cumberland or williams on the wing or after they come off their curl, but the team needs more.


in games like that you need your sr pg to step up. this game and miss st he was super passive. he can't be too afraid to turn the ball over, we need him to create sometimes.



to put the 9.0 usage rate into context, nsoseme had a 9.7 usage rate.

 

[ervins84]

Can anyone explain the last play. We inbounded the ball under the basket and failed to get a shot up in 6 seconds. Why did Cumberland, apparently the guy we wanted to handle the ball inbound it? Why did Jennifer dribble the ball at the three point line and why did Cumberland then drive the lane where he would get blocked and the refs obviously would not call a foul with under 2 seconds left so that it ends up in Brooks hands apparently without time to even put it on the the glass? Since we apparently had a height advantage shouldn’t we have had a play to get it to Brooks? It seems like all we did was say let Cumberland do whatever he decides with the ball and he blew it.

Seriously man, having your scoring option in bounds the ball there is really common under the basket. He'll have more freedom and space from his defender who can't immediately grab him before he picks which corner he runs to off the screen.

This is literally one of the oldest most effective actions for BLOB. But if you knew anything about basketball instead of spouting nothing but nonsense you would've known that.

 

[rogerOH]

The one thing I see about this years team that I don't like - none of our bigs is a turn and face scorer. Mamadou actually looks the best and I think he should be given more of a chance. I really think whoever coaches the bigs is not doing a good job. Brooks would be much more efficient if he would just turn and shoot- same with Scott. Nsoseme does not have a single big man move. Mamadou over Brooks and Nsoseme right now will pay dividends in the future. That or better coaching.

 

[GarradJ21]

I'd say this was about as worse of a UC weekend we have had since the Nevada loss. This weekend might be worse. Losing out on Symir was huge IMO. That's a difference maker. That's not a guy that would be ready to play by Jr. year. That's a guy that might be going to the NBA by his Jr. year.

 

[waterhead]

I'd say this was about as worse of a UC weekend we have had since the Nevada loss. This weekend might be worse. Losing out on Symir was huge IMO. That's a difference maker. That's not a guy that would be ready to play by Jr. year. That's a guy that might be going to the NBA by his Jr. year.

We lose more recruits than we get every year. This game is early enough in the season to recover from. I don't see any comparison to the Nevada loss. That was a complete disaster on many levels.

I think this game is one heck of a learning experience for these guys and if they don't respond then we probably don't have the right chemistry or heart that we need to make a run.

 

[Helicopter]

Seriously man, having your scoring option in bounds the ball there is really common under the basket. He'll have more freedom and space from his defender who can't immediately grab him before he picks which corner he runs to off the screen.

This is literally one of the oldest most effective actions for BLOB. But if you knew anything about basketball instead of spouting nothing but nonsense you would've known that.

For real. I read that complaint and was like where else do you want your best scorer. Always cover inbounder -- they are likely the ones getting the ball back.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

I'd say this was about as worse of a UC weekend we have had since the Nevada loss. This weekend might be worse. Losing out on Symir was huge IMO. That's a difference maker. That's not a guy that would be ready to play by Jr. year. That's a guy that might be going to the NBA by his Jr. year.

I said a similar thing. This was a reality check weekend.

Statistically worse loss in Ken Pom era, since 2002. Definitely drops a seed line and makes remaining sched a uphill battle. Going to be tough to bounce back at Tulsa but have to.

Losing Symir after Mick had been on his heels for years is sobering. New arena, PT, tourney almost guaranteed and goes to Marquette. Was position of need, currently leaves no backup PG for next season. Mick needed a run last year badly and this may be first casualty. Recruiting needs to have an uptick, only one top 100 player on team.

 

[Uclawrugby]

Seriously man, having your scoring option in bounds the ball there is really common under the basket. He'll have more freedom and space from his defender who can't immediately grab him before he picks which corner he runs to off the screen.

This is literally one of the oldest most effective actions for BLOB. But if you knew anything about basketball instead of spouting nothing but nonsense you would've known that.

That’s why I asked the question. I don’t claim to know a lot about basketball. Anyway I am not a Brooks fan at all but I think he could have done better then Cland did.

 

[waterhead]

I didn't get to see the game but I was wondering about Broome's turnovers. He gets a few too many turnovers from what I would call lazy passes but some are also from telegraphing. There really is no excuse for a lazy pass but I often hear Terrry Nelson saying you need to fake a pass before you make a pass. I think Broome could benefit from that principle the most.

If he is looking to pass the ball to one side he should probably fake the pass first then go back and fake to someone else and finally go back to the first option. Defenders find it easy to predict where Broome is going to often.

I really don't care if Cane gets a travel or dribbles one off his leg when he is being aggressive but these other turnovers are mostly preventable. He could probably cut his TO's in half by putting more zip on the ball and using more fakes. These are the TO's that will drive Cronin crazy. Allley oops that miss their mark should probably also be curtailed.

 

[ervins84]

That’s why I asked the question. I don’t claim to know a lot about basketball. Anyway I am not a Brooks fan at all but I think he could have done better then Cland did.

If it was a genuine questionb trying to learn, my bad and I'm sorry. But none of your posts on this forum have given any inkling of trying to learn more or being deferential about your basketball knowledge. If anything most of your posts cone across as if you have all the answers...aka play lojo more.

I'm not an expert. And even anyone who is, the game is always changing and evolving to the point where they could quickly be outdated.

I'm just a retired scrub high school player.


I really can't believe anyone would ever have an issue going to Cumberland there. He's our most talented player. Our most consistent Ft shooter. Our best 3pt shooter. Our best creator.

The only debate is when it's so clear cut who your best player is, do you use him as a decoy for something else. In cool going down with giving him a chance to make a play.

More importantly, this play is pretty irrelevant. ECU sucks. We sucked more that day. It should never ever come down to that.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

I'll say this, I can stomach losing 73-71 much more than when we lost 50-46 a couple years back. Its a game we shouldn't have lost. Too many turnovers and couldn't hit open shots, but we lost because ECU made contested jumper after contested jumper. They did hit some open threes but they played well above their average and for once we didnt lose cause we could only muster 50 points like most games we drop.

 

[Uclawrugby]

If it was a genuine questionb trying to learn, my bad and I'm sorry. But none of your posts on this forum have given any inkling of trying to learn more or being deferential about your basketball knowledge. If anything most of your posts cone across as if you have all the answers...aka play lojo more.

I'm not an expert. And even anyone who is, the game is always changing and evolving to the point where they could quickly be outdated.

I'm just a retired scrub high school player.


I really can't believe anyone would ever have an issue going to Cumberland there. He's our most talented player. Our most consistent Ft shooter. Our best 3pt shooter. Our best creator.

The only debate is when it's so clear cut who your best player is, do you use him as a decoy for something else. In cool going down with giving him a chance to make a play.

More importantly, this play is pretty irrelevant. ECU sucks. We sucked more that day. It should never ever come down to that.

Part of my problem is I never played any organized basketball so I really don’t know about any plays although I understand having the guy you want to get the ball to inbound might work in most cases though not here. The one thing I think we can agree on is that failing to get the ball up on the glsss or rim with six seconds left and a talent imbalance is not acceptable. Begging for a foul after that seems rather pathetic to me. Even though Brooks is extraordinarily weak with his height advantage he may have had a better chance of drawing a flagrant foul. One thing we learned is that Cland is probably not going to fill Jacob Evans’ role last year. Sorry if I sound contentious. I admit to trying to stir some contraversey here and there.