Fairleigh Dickinson

[UCBearcats]

If Michigan were on the schedule noone would be saying anything about the schedule. But hey, when your whole prerogative is to bitch about mick......

LOLOLOLOL........I'm sure Mick appreciates your unwavering support. He's taken credit in the past for his ability to schedule games so he can also take some criticism for the fact that the majority of our home non-conference schedule is made up of schools no one can point to on a map.

As ponited out in above postings and in a well written article by Lance McAllister, there's room for improvement.

 

[coachpipe]

LOLOLOLOL........I'm sure Mick appreciates your unwavering support. He's taken credit in the past for his ability to schedule games so he can also take some criticism for the fact that the majority of our home non-conference schedule is made up of schools no one can point to on a map.

As ponited out in above postings and in a well written article by Lance McAllister, there's room for improvement.

theres your problem. listening to a word that moron has to say. Not to mention, my unwavering support? you do realize just because you hate the man that doesnt mean everything he does is wrong right? The schedule was set. Just like the majority of college basketball teams. Then Michigan backed out. But then again, you already knew that and just like to bitch.

 

[UCBearcats]

theres your problem. listening to a word that moron has to say. Not to mention, my unwavering support? you do realize just because you hate the man that doesnt mean everything he does is wrong right? The schedule was set. Just like the majority of college basketball teams. Then Michigan backed out. But then again, you already knew that and just like to bitch.

You seem like you're having a bad day. Cheer up friend, it's the holiday season. The fact that Mick needs to do a better job of scheduling is nothing to get so angry about.

 

[TheLivingLegend]

You want better fan support? Schedule decent games...

Getting mid major name schools to come play cannot be that hard.

 

[coachpipe]

You seem like you're having a bad day. Cheer up friend, it's the holiday season. The fact that Mick needs to do a better job of scheduling is nothing to get so angry about.

coming to this site and always seeing people bitch is something to get angry about. We are supposed to enjoy the bearcats and come here because we enjoy talking about the bearcats and every thread turns into Mick sucks at this or that. It gets old. very old

 

[UCBearcats]

You want better fan support? Schedule decent games...

Getting mid major name schools to come play cannot be that hard.

Amen, the same guys who complain about lack of fan support are the same guys who complain when you criticize the schedule and probably the same guys who never actually attend any of the games themselves.

 

[JasonS]

You want better fan support? Schedule decent games...

Getting mid major name schools to come play cannot be that hard.

Are you going to put up the money? Non-conference scheduling has turned into who can pay the most to a school to get them to come play. Of course, that doesn't apply to P5 and American schools but the other home games are buy games. So you have a couple options:

1. Offer them a home and home (like BGSU)
2. Pay them to come play at your place and then you are competing with P5 schools as to who can pay more. It's expensive to schedule the top mid major schools unless you are willing to grant them a home game. Even then it's pricey.

The goal of scheduling is to make the NCAA Tourney. That's happened the last 6 years. The scheduling strategy has worked. The question I have for everyone is simple. Do you watch UC games to watch UC players or to watch the other team? If the former, it shouldn't matter who they are playing. If the latter, then I would question how much you really care about the program.

 

[UCBearcats]

Are you going to put up the money? Non-conference scheduling has turned into who can pay the most to a school to get them to come play. Of course, that doesn't apply to P5 and American schools but the other home games are buy games. So you have a couple options:

1. Offer them a home and home (like BGSU)
2. Pay them to come play at your place and then you are competing with P5 schools as to who can pay more. It's expensive to schedule the top mid major schools unless you are willing to grant them a home game. Even then it's pricey.

The goal of scheduling is to make the NCAA Tourney. That's happened the last 6 years. The scheduling strategy has worked. The question I have for everyone is simple. Do you watch UC games to watch UC players or to watch the other team? If the former, it shouldn't matter who they are playing. If the latter, then I would question how much you really care about the program.

I could probably count on one hand the # of home games I've missed in the last decade so I think I'm well qualified to answer your questions. The way I see it there's 2 options if you want to create more excitement for the average UC fan.

Option #1 - Build a program that is consistently ranked in the top 15 in the country, plays an interesting and exciting brand of basketball, and competes for conference championships every season. Mick CLEARLY hasn't done this.

Option #2 - Schedule more teams people can point to on a map. Play teams like Miami OH and UD every season. Mix in a team like Northern Illinois or Indiana State or Ball State or Ohio University every once in a while.

Simple facts based on the attendance numbers we've seen in Mick's tenure will tell you that the average fan isn't going to slog down to the Shoe on a Tuesday night to watch us play Western Pennsylvania Upstate. Especially when the brand of basketball we play isn't a particularity exciting one.

One or the other, this is not an unreasonable request.

 

[GoCats88]

I could probably count on one hand the # of homes games I've missed in the last decade so I think I'm well qualified to answer your questions. The way I see it there's 2 options if you want to create more excitement for the average UC fan.

Option #1 - Build a program that is consistently ranked in the top 15 in the country, plays an interesting and exciting brand of basketball, and competes for conference championships every season. Mick CLEARLY hasn't done this.

Option #2 - Schedule more teams people can point to on a map. Play teams like Miami OH and UD every season. Mix in a team like Northern Illinois or Indiana State or Ball State or Ohio University every once in a while.

Simple facts based on the attendance numbers we've seen in Mick's tenure will tell you that the average fan isn't going to slog down to the Shoe on a Tuesday night to watch us play Western Pennsylvania Upstate. Especially when the brand of basketball we play isn't a particularity exciting one.

One or the other, this is not an unreasonable request.

Don't forget option 3 where you complain no matter what. Wasn't that you going on about Xavier's ability to schedule when we have the better non conference schedule than them. Really doesn't make much sense.

 

[GarradJ21]

I could probably count on one hand the # of homes games I've missed in the last decade so I think I'm well qualified to answer your questions. The way I see it there's 2 options if you want to create more excitement for the average UC fan.

Option #1 - Build a program that is consistently ranked in the top 15 in the country, plays an interesting and exciting brand of basketball, and competes for conference championships every season. Mick CLEARLY hasn't done this.

Option #2 - Schedule more teams people can point to on a map. Play teams like Miami OH and UD every season. Mix in a team like Northern Illinois or Indiana State or Ball State or Ohio University every once in a while.

Simple facts based on the attendance numbers we've seen in Mick's tenure will tell you that the average fan isn't going to slog down to the Shoe on a Tuesday night to watch us play Western Pennsylvania Upstate. Especially when the brand of basketball we play isn't a particularity exciting one.

One or the other, this is not an unreasonable request.

Ok dude think about this..we have 9 OOC home games. 2 of them were forced on us. albany and brown because of the Mohegan..we are down to 7. Xavier enough said. Down to 6. We were supposed to play Michigan (now FDU). Down to 5 OOC opponets. Marshall and bowling green fit exactly what you said, in our region that everyone has heard of. No different than Miami OH. Boom down to 3 games that everyone bitches about Samford lipscomb and Texas southern. 3 games thats it. 3 games

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Put me in the camp that doesn't feel like arguing about this but wouldn't mind seeing either better, or local teams on the bottom of our non-conference slate. I wouldn't mind a home and home with a few local teams like the Bowling Green thing. I'd also like to lock in the VCU, Rhode Island level teams on a regular basis. I don't live in town so it's tough for me to comment on whether I'd go to the NW Fairleigh Dickinson Tech type games...but seeing the prices on SratGeek and seeing people flat out offer free tickets on this site, it'd be tough for me to stay home. I know that much.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Ok dude think about this..we have 9 OOC home games. 2 of them were forced on us. albany and brown because of the Mohegan..we are down to 7. Xavier enough said. Down to 6. We were supposed to play Michigan (now FDU). Down to 5 OOC opponets. Marshall and bowling green fit exactly what you said, in our region that everyone has heard of. No different than Miami OH. Boom down to 3 games that everyone bitches about Samford lipscomb and Texas southern. 3 games thats it. 3 games

Not that uncommon to have 3 games like that. But we did know about Brown and Albany, so if we truly wanted it to be 3 we would've subbed out Lipscomb and Texas Southern or whatever for a small step up. Still not a big enough deal to me to get bent out of shape about it.

 

[Union Bearcat]

Ok dude think about this..we have 9 OOC home games. 2 of them were forced on us. albany and brown because of the Mohegan..we are down to 7. Xavier enough said. Down to 6. We were supposed to play Michigan (now FDU). Down to 5 OOC opponets. Marshall and bowling green fit exactly what you said, in our region that everyone has heard of. No different than Miami OH. Boom down to 3 games that everyone bitches about Samford lipscomb and Texas southern. 3 games thats it. 3 games

Boom good post. This complaint happens every year. Some media yokle has to create a stir in order to drum up some clicks on their blog after when we win too easily and gets everyone caught up in this for a few days.

 

[GarradJ21]

Not that uncommon to have 3 games like that. But we did know about Brown and Albany, so if we truly wanted it to be 3 we would've subbed out Lipscomb and Texas Southern or whatever for a small step up. Still not a big enough deal to me to get bent out of shape about it.

Yes, I can agree with that, but look at the schedule playout it would be great to beat up on the Texas southern then play Mich. Unfortunately that Mich game really makes it look worse than it actually is. Lipscome and Samford were great breaks between Mohegan and leading up to ISU

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Yes, I can agree with that, but look at the schedule playout it would be great to beat up on the Texas southern then play Mich. Unfortunately that Mich game really makes it look worse than it actually is. Lipscome and Samford were great breaks between Mohegan and leading up to ISU

Yeah the layout is definitely something to consider when you have a tournament, 2 true road games against ranked teams, and what should have been Michigan...All before an 18 game conference schedule with X mixed in.

 

[GarradJ21]

Boom good post. This complaint happens every year. Some media yokle has to create a stir in order to drum up some clicks on their blog after when we win too easily and gets everyone caught up in this for a few days.

Thanks. I guess if one of those 3 were Miami OH it would chill out some people but either way we are going to be 10-2 going into conference play whether we play Miami oh or Texas southern.again, Michigan game was a killer

 

[UCBearcats]

Don't forget option 3 where you complain no matter what. Wasn't that you going on about Xavier's ability to schedule when we have the better non conference schedule than them. Really doesn't make much sense.

No, it wasn't

 

[UCBearcats]

Ok dude think about this..we have 9 OOC home games. 2 of them were forced on us. albany and brown because of the Mohegan..we are down to 7. Xavier enough said. Down to 6. We were supposed to play Michigan (now FDU). Down to 5 OOC opponets. Marshall and bowling green fit exactly what you said, in our region that everyone has heard of. No different than Miami OH. Boom down to 3 games that everyone bitches about Samford lipscomb and Texas southern. 3 games thats it. 3 games

Good post and you bring up some valid points there. However, all I said from my initial post on this thread is that we could schedule better, not sure why everyone is so bent out of shape about it.

The simple concept here is that fan support for our non conference home schedule is lacking. The simple answer to me is either play better competition (because stats support the fact that fans come to games when we do) or give the fans a "must see" type of product.

It's perfectly reasonable to say we could do a better job of scheduling because we could.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

The thing about these Fairleigh Dickinson type games is that the caliber of the opponent is factored into the price of the ticket. They are as low as $4 for Saturday on SeatGeek. If you're a fan at all, that's hard to say no to.

 

[waterhead]

Good post and you bring up some valid points there. However, all I said from my initial post on this thread is that we could schedule better, not sure why everyone is so bent out of shape about it.

The simple concept here is that fan support for our non conference home schedule is lacking. The simple answer to me is either play better competition (because stats support the fact that fans come to games when we do) or give the fans a "must see" type of product.

It's perfectly reasonable to say we could do a better job of scheduling because we could.

Put me in the category of putting an excellent product on the floor to drive attendance. Scheduling some of the teams mentioned would only marginally help.

Plus...if you give local or regional mid major teams home and home you are asking for a bad loss every once in a while. No thanks...it's a dream game for some of them.

Just need to play well enough to get fans really excited. They will watch Lipscomb if there are no tickets available for UConn.