Jaevin Cumberland

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No player takes a unofficial visit without significant interest. Their family has foot a unnecessary bill if that's the case. Players take official visit to schools all time for free vacations.
 
No player takes a unofficial visit without significant interest. Their family has foot a unnecessary bill if that's the case. Players take official visit to schools all time for free vacations.

Pretty sure he took a road trip with other players on the team and they stopped at the place where a lot of local guys were running open gym and training
 
More of a combo guard but I think he could play point if we needed it.

When I asked an Oakland fan about him playing point recently this is the response I got verbatim:

Would not recommend. For us last year we had a freshman PG playing 38+ minutes a game. If JC could really be seen as a PG we would have used him there at times last year. When he had to the offense stalled and his TO went up. He’s not a PG

Not sure if this is really an accurate reflection of his abilities or a bitter response to his departure but it's something to consider regardless.
 
When I asked an Oakland fan about him playing point recently this is the response I got verbatim:

Would not recommend. For us last year we had a freshman PG playing 38+ minutes a game. If JC could really be seen as a PG we would have used him there at times last year. When he had to the offense stalled and his TO went up. He’s not a PG

Not sure if this is really an accurate reflection of his abilities or a bitter response to his departure but it's something to consider regardless.

Sounds legit to me. So we would still need to land a PG anyway (as a backup) if we get Jaevin. Jarron can only do so much. How else can you start both of them if you also have a true PG on the floor? Play small with Scott at the 5? Put Williams on the bench? I don't think Jaevin is going anywhere to come off the bench...and I don't think Williams would like that much.
 
Sounds legit to me. So we would still need to land a PG anyway (as a backup) if we get Jaevin. Jarron can only do so much. How else can you start both of them if you also have a true PG on the floor? Play small with Scott at the 5? Put Williams on the bench? I don't think Jaevin is going anywhere to come off the bench...and I don't think Williams would like that much.

My guess at the moment is that Jarron is being groomed to be our starting point/primary ball handler. If we really are seriously recruiting a player like Tevin Mack, a true wing and someone who would presumably start from day one, I'd have to assume he is 1) a potential replacement for Jaevin if that were to fall through and 2) going to play on the opposite wing of Williams with Jarron bringing the ball up. Or like you mentioned, Brannen could be preparing for a small line-up with one true point (TBD), 3 wings (Jarron, Jaevin/Mack, and Williams), and 1 true big (Scott).
 
My guess at the moment is that Jarron is being groomed to be our starting point/primary ball handler. If we really are seriously recruiting a player like Tevin Mack, a true wing and someone who would presumably start from day one, I'd have to assume he is 1) a potential replacement for Jaevin if that were to fall through and 2) going to play on the opposite wing of Williams with Jarron bringing the ball up. Or like you mentioned, Brannen could be preparing for a small line-up with one true point (TBD), 3 wings (Jarron, Jaevin/Mack, and Williams), and 1 true big (Scott).

If we get Jaevin you have to put him on the floor with Williams, Scott, and Cumberland. Then I guess you have to put out the next best player whether it’s a big or another guard. Tough call with a lot of unknowns.
 
If we get Jaevin you have to put him on the floor with Williams, Scott, and Cumberland. Then I guess you have to put out the next best player whether it’s a big or another guard. Tough call with a lot of unknowns.

Just going based on our recruiting it seems like we are going to be playing small quite a bit next year. With Diarra and Scott at the 5.

We still have multiple PG's, SG's and Wings on our recruiting radar. But the only center I know of us recruiting for this year is Sorolla and he is not starter quality. Unless we have a under-the-radar center we are recruiting.
 
Just going based on our recruiting it seems like we are going to be playing small quite a bit next year. With Diarra and Scott at the 5.

We still have multiple PG's, SG's and Wings on our recruiting radar. But the only center I know of us recruiting for this year is Sorolla and he is not starter quality. Unless we have a under-the-radar center we are recruiting.
I think Chris Vogt will be the big man right??? Also have not seen it on here yet bet I'm sure you know we also just signed Woods.
 
I think Chris Vogt will be the big man right??? Also have not seen it on here yet bet I'm sure you know we also just signed Woods.

Vogt has to sit a year as a transfer. As of now Diarra is the only center on the roster. Sorolla is a possible addition but isn't starter quality. Though I haven't heard much of anything about Nsoseme visiting other schools and wonder if we can convince him to stay.
 
Vogt has to sit a year as a transfer. As of now Diarra is the only center on the roster. Sorolla is a possible addition but isn't starter quality. Though I haven't heard much of anything about Nsoseme visiting other schools and wonder if we can convince him to stay.
Damn! Thought he was good to go if the coach left.
 
I didn't think so since Brannen left I think he can play immediately.Is this not correct?? I think maybe you can't follow your coach without sitting a year maybe that's why?

Vogt has to sit. Just like Brooks. Curtis won’t have to because he was not enrolled as an incoming recruit. Outside of that you need a waiver for some hardship like injury or moving closer to home etc
 
Vogt has to sit. Just like Brooks. Curtis won’t have to because he was not enrolled as an incoming recruit. Outside of that you need a waiver for some hardship like injury or moving closer to home etc
Damn...for some reason I thought they changed that in 2018. No rim protector and big time foul trouble down low all season then.
 
Jaevin at 87% FT and 40% from 3 last year. Those are both outstanding considering the volume of 3's! ORTG was at 116 last year on 21 % usage. Cane was never that high even at Sacred Heart. Jaevin was the focal point of opposing D's all be it in the Horizon and somehow managed to get off 8 threes per game without serious play making ball skills. I would guess half of those shots were contested. Jarron is going to take that pressure off but the defenders he will face will get better. I don't think he will get off 8 threes per game but I hope he and Jarron can average about 6 each.

At 87% from the FT line he becomes your go to for FT's at end of game. He played 37 mpg so I don't think fatigue will be much of an issue as it didn't seem to be with Jarron. I think 25 mpg is an absolute minimum. I could even see 32.5 if he is efficient as he was last year (or better). Williams faded off at the end of season last year....so I hope he gets it going again. If I had to put money on minutes I would probably place Jaevin just ahead of Keith. Keith will be awesome in the break though and he can probably defend at a higher level for sure.

Based on the speed at which Brannen will play it's hard to put anyone at more than 32.5 mpg. But we seem to have 4 players who are clearly a notch above the rest...at least at this point.
 
Jaevin at 87% FT and 40% from 3 last year. Those are both outstanding considering the volume of 3's! ORTG was at 116 last year on 21 % usage. Cane was never that high even at Sacred Heart. Jaevin was the focal point of opposing D's all be it in the Horizon and somehow managed to get off 8 threes per game without serious play making ball skills. I would guess half of those shots were contested. Jarron is going to take that pressure off but the defenders he will face will get better. I don't think he will get off 8 threes per game but I hope he and Jarron can average about 6 each.

At 87% from the FT line he becomes your go to for FT's at end of game. He played 37 mpg so I don't think fatigue will be much of an issue as it didn't seem to be with Jarron. I think 25 mpg is an absolute minimum. I could even see 32.5 if he is efficient as he was last year (or better). Williams faded off at the end of season last year....so I hope he gets it going again. If I had to put money on minutes I would probably place Jaevin just ahead of Keith. Keith will be awesome in the break though and he can probably defend at a higher level for sure.

Based on the speed at which Brannen will play it's hard to put anyone at more than 32.5 mpg. But we seem to have 4 players who are clearly a notch above the rest...at least at this point.



Jaevin actually wasn't the focal point and I think thats a great thing for us. He did well at being the 2nd option. Xavier Hill-Mais had a 29.2 usage rate last year for Oakland.


Jaevin was the exact type of player we needed to add. He's a better fit for what we need than KW is.
 
Jaevin actually wasn't the focal point and I think thats a great thing for us. He did well at being the 2nd option. Xavier Hill-Mais had a 29.2 usage rate last year for Oakland.


Jaevin was the exact type of player we needed to add. He's a better fit for what we need than KW is.

Thanks for that. I was wondering how or why he was only at 21% usage.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq5XpBBX2jg


Watch this video...it's poor quality but you can get the point. Almost every shot in this mix tape is Jaevin shooting from NBA range, or with a man in his face, or one dribble quick release, and or off balance.

Contrast that with MOST of what Jenifer did. He camped out right on the college 3 line catch and shoot. Now take the volume of 8 threes per game of Cumberland to 4 for Jenifer. I would venture to guess Jenifer shot 3 out of 4 of his threes right on the line catch and shoot (open). My guess is Cumberland shoots 50% of his shots with a higher degree of difficulty.

No disrespect to Jenifer. He made a great %. But if Cumberland shot the same type of shots...he may have been over 50%. And if Justin tried to do what Jaevin did he would probably be closer to 30%.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq5XpBBX2jg


Watch this video...it's poor quality but you can get the point. Almost every shot in this mix tape is Jaevin shooting from NBA range, or with a man in his face, or one dribble quick release, and or off balance.

Contrast that with MOST of what Jenifer did. He camped out right on the college 3 line catch and shoot. Now take the volume of 8 threes per game of Cumberland to 4 for Jenifer. I would venture to guess Jenifer shot 3 out of 4 of his threes right on the line catch and shoot (open). My guess is Cumberland shoots 50% of his shots with a higher degree of difficulty.

No disrespect to Jenifer. He made a great %. But if Cumberland shot the same type of shots...he may have been over 50%. And if Justin tried to do what Jaevin did he would probably be closer to 30%.



give me 40% on 8 attempts a game over 44% on 3 attempts a game all day.
 
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