Lunardi Bracketology 12/10

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It is early. We have done everything we needed to do. I am not sure that I think X has a better resume than us right now though. Beating Seton Hall without their best player and a .500 Butler team at home are good wins but not great.

Our best win is running train on UD which is nothing to brag about right now.

The worst loss is @ Miami OH. We will see how we fair on our trip up.

We don't have a worse loss.

We seem to have looked a litter better but it is tough to tell. It is early. FWIW I think both make tournament this year.
 
Have to remember UC has only beat two teams that are above 500, one of them being IPFW. I know a lot of teams haven't beat a ton of teams over 500 yet, but those teams are already established. We will see how UC does once it gets to their hard games.

Just did a quick look, and X has only beat two teams above 500 right now as well. However Butler will end up being a better W at the end of the season, or at least looks like they would be the best W so far. It could be argued Dayton could be the best W at the end of the season for either team at this point.
 
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Agreed Kcourt. Neither team has done a whole lot brag about right now but neither has done anything too terrible. Losing @ miami isnt good but it was away game so that isn't too awful.

Wofford would have been a terrible L. Nobody will care at all that it was a 3 OT game at the end of the year.
 
catsfan32 said:
Where did u get that ranking? Both CBS (281) and Realtime RPI (277) have us under 300, so I dont know where you are getting that SOS ranking.
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Yeah I saw someone claiming that on BCN... Haters gotta hate.

The SOS will be 75 or better by the end of the year, worry about it then.
 
Anyone filling out NCAA Tourney brackets at present is making a fool of himself. Anyone paying any attention to it needs a life. Copy it and come back March 15 to let us know how it worked out.
 
ralph1950 said:
Anyone filling out NCAA Tourney brackets at present is making a fool of himself. Anyone paying any attention to it needs a life. Copy it and come back March 15 to let us know how it worked out.
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Lunardi's accuracy is unparalleled. It is something to look at as the season progresses to see where the team stacks up. Not sure how that equates to myself or anyone else who pays attention to it needing a life. :rolleyes:

Dayton has a big game tomorrow Vs. a tough Old Dominion squad. Hopefully they can find a way to pull off the win.
 
Old Dominion win for Xavier is helping them out a lot right now. RPI's matter very little right now, but Butler and Old Dominion give them 2 top 50 wins.
 
Crap....Didn't even look to see how they did. But ODU is 21 in RPI. Strangely I wonder if that loss may help them more than a W vs a 300+ team.
 
psax889906 said:
Yeah I saw someone claiming that on BCN... Haters gotta hate.

The SOS will be 75 or better by the end of the year, worry about it then.
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1011.htm

Cincinnati = 81.88 7 0 64.47( 345) 0 0 | 0 0 | 81.43 54 | 81.29 58

The committe won't like that a great portion of the wins will come from teams in the bottom half of college basketball. It is something to worry about...guess incompetent people gotta make stupid comments.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1011.htm

Cincinnati = 81.88 7 0 64.47( 345) 0 0 | 0 0 | 81.43 54 | 81.29 58

The committe won't like that a great portion of the wins will come from teams in the bottom half of college basketball. It is something to worry about...guess incompetent people gotta make stupid comments.
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You've got numbers... good, I like that- my turn:

7 - The number of teams in the top 25 UC faces in their remaining games.



I realize my incompetence puts me at an intellectual disadvantage when discussing these matters, but I think the SOS will be just fine at the end of the year- when it matters.
 
Bearcat_NTS said:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1011.htm

Cincinnati = 81.88 7 0 64.47( 345) 0 0 | 0 0 | 81.43 54 | 81.29 58

The committe won't like that a great portion of the wins will come from teams in the bottom half of college basketball. It is something to worry about...guess incompetent people gotta make stupid comments.
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What I don't get is how usatoday's SOS can be more than 50 rankings higher than any other databases SOS? Not taking a shot at you, I am just wondering how that can be. As of right now SOS don't mean jack $hit because there are tons of games to be played and we will end up with a SOS under/around 75 anyway. Who knows, maybe we will play or have played the Horizon league champ, A10 champ, Summit champ, MAC champ. Point is, if we win 10 games in the BEAST we are going to the dance, OOC won't mean a ton, maybe the position of the tourney seed but thats about it.
 
Daniel Drake said:
collegerpi.com has UC at 281 SOS.
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You incompetent fool!!! :D


Look myself, others and Mick Cronin himself understand that the OOC schedule has not shaped up as we all would have liked... there are a number of factors that go into that... BUT, with all of that said the SOS WILL undoubtedly be in the top 75 (if not better) by the end of the year- when it matters.

It's not the most desirable schedule, or position for the team to be in going into BEAST play. But it is what it is and they are an experienced team that should be able to handle it.
 
I feel Cincy cannot lose a game before the Big East schedule starts. They should NOT lose a game. That will seriously hurt them. A 13-0 start will give them enough confidence to play with the big boys. I'm still saying 10-8 big East 22-9 overall. I think they'll slip up once before Big East play.
 
psax889906 said:
You've got numbers... good, I like that- my turn:

7 - The number of teams in the top 25 UC faces in their remaining games.



I realize my incompetence puts me at an intellectual disadvantage when discussing these matters, but I think the SOS will be just fine at the end of the year- when it matters.
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I agree that the SOS will be benefited by Big East play. However Non-Conference SOS is factored in the selection process for the NCAA Tournament. It is great that UC is playing 7 teams in the top 25, but unless they win 2-3 of them, it really doesn't matter. Because of a lack of a signature non conference win (even if they beat X and OU), the Cats are going to have to get 4-5 wins over tournament teams as well 2-3 of them coming against top 25 competition. I have heard a lot of people claiming..well 22 wins will mean they are in, or 10-8 in the big east means they are in. That maybe could have been considered true years ago, but it really depends on who the 10 wins come against. It very easily could be DePaul x2, Providence, USF, St. Johns x2, and Rutgers for 7 wins right there. That scenario would not get it done.

catsfan32 said:
What I don't get is how usatoday's SOS can be more than 50 rankings higher than any other databases SOS? Not taking a shot at you, I am just wondering how that can be. As of right now SOS don't mean jack $hit because there are tons of games to be played and we will end up with a SOS under/around 75 anyway. Who knows, maybe we will play or have played the Horizon league champ, A10 champ, Summit champ, MAC champ. Point is, if we win 10 games in the BEAST we are going to the dance, OOC won't mean a ton, maybe the position of the tourney seed but thats about it.
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Its the Sagarin rankings, not 100% sure about the calculation but I do know that along with KenPom's rankings its the most respected service for analyzing teams (Although some mid major programs numbers can be skewed).
 

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