Notre Dame to Big 12?

[bearcat jeff]

The Big East may well be on the verge of taking another hit. Two sources in the Big 12 said Wednesday the possibility of Notre Dame moving its Olympic sports out of the Big East and into the Big 12 is becoming more and more likely. Speculation is growing among those sources that an announcement could come from South Bend before the end of the summer. As part of such a move, Notre Dame, which has a contract with NBC to televise its home football games through the 2015 season, would agree to play up to six football games against Big 12 competition (but most likely three or so to start with), sources tell Orangebloods.com. Notre Dame would maintain its independence in football ... for now.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_...-big-12?sct=cb_bf1_a5&eref=fromSI&eref=fromSI

 

[mplebanon]

Frankly, it surprises me because of the catholic connection with the Big East. If ND isn't going to play football against the B12 for awhile, why play b-ball against them? Big East is still better than B12 in b-ball.

 

[Eternal E]

Old news, no chance in HELL.

 

[Hicks' Guns]

I am more concerned with the rumors that FSU and Clemson may go to the Big 12. Geographically, I don't think it makes much sense for them but apparently, it could be worth $5m more for them a year in revenue.

This could result in another trickle down effect and the ACC plucking 2 more Big East teams. If UC would be one of those teams, that would be one thing...but far from a lock. That being said, it's a bigger issue for UC football than basketball.

Conference uncertainty is constant so this would just be the next round. I'm hopeful it doesn't happen.

P.S. I hate Notre Dame I feel compelled to say this when they are mentioned.

 

[BearcatMick]

I told everyone this weeks ago and EE, user and Jason are deniers. They continue to deny despite all the evidence

Nd is gone to big 12 in non football sports.

Fsu and Clemson trying to leave is bad news cause ul and rutgers/uconn will go to acc and were stuck in conference USA part 2

 

[bearcat jeff]

Old news, no chance in HELL.

Money talks and suckers are left looking for a conference.

 

[BearcatMick]

Money talks and suckers are left looking for a conference.

Precisely. The new playoff system will not be kind to the acc, big east or independents...

 

[ralph1950]

Old news that was quickly denied by ND's AD.

Makes no sense as NBC has ND's TV rights where Big 12 is locked in to Fox and ESPN.

 

[bearcat jeff]

Old news that was quickly denied by ND's AD.

Makes no sense as NBC has ND's TV rights where Big 12 is locked in to Fox and ESPN.

It's new news about an old situation. Ralph you sure put a lot of faith in the words of administrators. They are smart men and they see the inevitable. Super conferences will dominate the landscape.

Their brand in football is dropping and it's gone the way of the Big 10 and is now overshadowed by the SEC, Big 12, and PAC-12. The ACC will have to follow suit or we will see a Big East/ACC hybrid and every other conference will be left on the outside.

The Big East has done itself harm by adding some of the teams it's picked up. It acted hastily and not selectively. I love playing in th Big East but it's status as a major conference is in major trouble if it doesn't find a way to consolidate power and get some leadership. This is by no means over. There will be more defections and shifting and the big boys know the Big East is ripe for picking.

 

[BearcatMick]

Bearcat Jeff is dead on. The playoff system has changed the college football landscape. Out are rivalries and tradition. It all comes down to mega conferences, money, and markets.

2015 will be the first year for four team playoff. 2015 is also the last year for nd in their NBC contract.

4 mega conferences with 16 teams seems inevitable at this point.

 

[Little Danny]

It's new news about an old situation. Ralph you sure put a lot of faith in the words of administrators. They are smart men and they see the inevitable. Super conferences will dominate the landscape.

Their brand in football is dropping and it's gone the way of the Big 10 and is now overshadowed by the SEC, Big 12, and PAC-12. The ACC will have to follow suit or we will see a Big East/ACC hybrid and every other conference will be left on the outside.

The Big East has done itself harm by adding some of the teams it's picked up. It acted hastily and not selectively. I love playing in th Big East but it's status as a major conference is in major trouble if it doesn't find a way to consolidate power and get some leadership. This is by no means over. There will be more defections and shifting and the big boys know the Big East is ripe for picking.

I understand and agree with 99% of what you said. My only question was what alternative did the 5 left over Big East schools have in taking the schools they did? Nobody was going to leave the other five AQ conferences to join the BE. Pitt, Syracuse and WVU really screwed the left behind schools. We left C-USA years ago but were back doored back into the conference by those schools' defections.

 

[Eternal E]

Notre Dame will not join a conference ever, the Big 12 was never going to happen then there was a rumor of the ACC. Neither are ever going to happen. I though UL to the Big 12 was a done deal clowns?

 

[BearcatMick]

Notre Dame will not join a conference ever, the Big 12 was never going to happen then there was a rumor of the ACC. Neither are ever going to happen. I though UL to the Big 12 was a done deal clowns?

You are way off base as usual. You honestly believe the big 12 is happy with 10 teams, no conference championship and significantly less revenue than they'd have with 12? As we get closer and closer to 2014/15 season, the acc and big east will be gutted resulting in a hybrid like Jeff suggests

Nd will be forced to join a conference by then or sooner

 

[cincycpaw]

You are way off base as usual. You honestly believe the big 12 is happy with 10 teams, no conference championship and significantly less revenue than they'd have with 12? As we get closer and closer to 2014/15 season, the acc and big east will be gutted resulting in a hybrid like Jeff suggests

Nd will be forced to join a conference by then or sooner

I think you are both idiots for pretending to know what is going on here. Things are still so volatile almost anything could happen. When Nebraska left for the Big 10 and colorado left for the Pac 12 and it looked as A&M and Mizzou were gone (and they are now), who thought the Big 12 was going to remain a viable conference, let alone be 1 of the Big 4?

 

[bearcat jeff]

I certainly don't know what will happen but I know it's not over. Things will shift more you can take that to the bank.

 

[bearcatfan1211]

Bearcat Jeff is dead on. The playoff system has changed the college football landscape. Out are rivalries and tradition. It all comes down to mega conferences, money, and markets.

2015 will be the first year for four team playoff. 2015 is also the last year for nd in their NBC contract.

4 mega conferences with 16 teams seems inevitable at this point.

This is the tricky part though because who is the Pac-12 going to add? they have zero interest in BYU and will have to push East and leapfrog the entire Big 12 in order to get quality.

 

[BearcatMick]

This is the tricky part though because who is the Pac-12 going to add? they have zero interest in BYU and will have to push East and leapfrog the entire Big 12 in order to get quality.

Good point. The PAC 12 doesn't have many options. Boise, sdsu, Nevada, unlv, new Mexico and new Mexico state are not up to par academically. Byu would be a great fit but they can't play on Sundays

 

[Hicks' Guns]

4 mega conferences with UC being one of the first teams out is something none of us wants to think about. I really hope our AD has contingency plans...I'm sure he does...whether they are possible to execute is another matter.

 

[Little Danny]

With the latest on the "Champions Bowl" I have to wonder if the trend will actually be to move back to conferences with less teams, not more. If the "Champions Bowl" takes the top conference winners, it will be much harder to get to this game with a conference of 12-16 as opposed to 9-10. Maybe the B12 is onto something here with staying at 10.

Could we see other conferences/teams make the same move?

 

[JasonS]

With the latest on the "Champions Bowl" I have to wonder if the trend will actually be to move back to conferences with less teams, not more. If the "Champions Bowl" takes the top conference winners, it will be much harder to get to this game with a conference of 12-16 as opposed to 9-10. Maybe the B12 is onto something here with staying at 10.

Could we see other conferences/teams make the same move?

Nothing is going to happen with conference realignment until the selection process for the playoff is determined. If the SEC gets it's way and can have more than 1 team in the playoff, you can probably expect to continue to see conference movement. If not, and it is determined you must win your conference to be eligible (my preference), then you will probably see the movement of teams out of conferences slow down quite a bit. There would be no advantage for a team like Clemson or FSU or VT to leave a weak ACC for a stronger conference.

The potential catch here is with schools like ND and BYU. If it is decided that you have to win a conference to be eligible for selection, how does ND and BYU get included presently? These are the types of things that have to be determined. I personally don't see ND going to a conference for football as long as they have the ability to have access to a National Title without a conference and they still can pull in the amount of money through NBC that they currently do. There really is no advantage for ND going to a conference at this point for football. That, of course, is subject to change based on TV and what happens with this playoff situation.

As for ND going to the Big 12 for their non-football sports, I'll believe it when I see it. There is a lot of posturing going on right now and the Big 12 is trying to lure ND football any way they can. If the Big 12 realizes that ND is not coming for football, I think this dies and dies pretty fast. If they still think they can lure ND for football, this will continue to pop up from time to time in the media.