Playing Time

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I think it depends a lot on what the coach has told him about when he goes in the game. If he says, go out there and set picks, rebound, defend and don't look for shots until late in clock...and then Q goes in to do the opposite? What do you do with a player like that?

He had 2 turnovers in 4 minutes which is forgiveable if he wasn't already leading the team in turnovers and shots take per 40 minutes. If Quadri just wants to score when he's in there and refuses to play the game the coach wants him to...he becomes a big liability in more ways than one. How do you trust a player if he's not doing what you tell him in the limited time you try to give him a chance? It's not hard to do what you are told for 8 minutes let alone 20...but these things don't seem to register with Q.

Contrast that with Jenifer this year. He's listening to the coach and his minutes have gone way up...and not only that...it's working. What do you know?

Agree WH. It also has a impact on the rest of the team. If he gets away with doing what he wants on the floor, why shouldn't they.

 

[HoosierCat]

It's most definitely a Quadri problem, not the coach. To get the yank like he did, I think it's obvious he isn't listening or doing things he's told.
Just as I previously stated, never want to see a player fail. He can never get into any kind of rhythm, but that falls back to him. I honestly thought he would of probably transferred by now, with the freshmen looking like they do this year, it wouldn't surprise me to see him leave

 

[waterhead]

He's leading the team in turnovers per 40 minutes by a long shot as well as fouls. He's second on the team in FG attempts with the second lowest FG%. He has yet to register an assist.

If you want to play...try getting your team involved when you are out there. Coach is not a pad your stats guy unless they are hustle related or defensive.

 

[waterhead]

He's leading the team in turnovers per 40 minutes by a long shot as well as fouls. He's second on the team in FG attempts with the second lowest FG%. He has yet to register an assist.

If you want to play...try getting your team involved when you are out there. Coach is not a pad your stats guy unless they are hustle related or defensive.

Coach praised Scott after Lipscomb about his team first mentality and willingness to run around and set picks and get assists getting his team involved and how well the offense works when that happens. He also praised his hustle...rebounds, deflections, blocks, etc.

I think Quad may have had his headphones on?

Not bringing him back in the game doesn't have to be a confidence killer. As long as Quad decides to do what he is supposed to the next time in...and then the next time...and the next

 

[mdchick]

I obviously want quad to be good, but he's not, this isn't 4th grade rec basketball, we are trying to win a national championship here. I don't care how much work he put in the off season, if you travel every time you touch the ball you shouldn't play

 

[prancer]

I agree with most of the points everyone has made. It didn't occur to me that Quad could be going out there and doing the exact opposite of what Cronin tells him to do -- shooting bad shots, not playing within the team, etc. So if that's the case, I'm totally fine with Quad riding the bench. But we'll never know if that's what's going on or not.

I also agree, as others have pointed out, that Quad is not entitled to playing time. This is DI ball, you have to earn your minutes, nothing is given to you just bc you're on scholarship.

When I say that I would like to see Quad get more minutes (in blowouts), 10% of the reason I feel that way is that I feel for him and really want to see him reach his potential. 90% is totally selfish -- I want the team to do well, and a playable Quad makes the team better. Here's my reasoning:

(1) Right now Quad is not nearly good enough to be productive against top competition.

(2) At some point between now and the end of the season, we will be in a close game against a good team (at least once, probably more) and Mick will need to play Quad. This will be necessary because of some combination of injuries, foul trouble (*cough* KW *cough*), or fatigue.

(3) In order to improve, Quad needs minutes. He may not dramatically improve even with minutes, but without seeing floor time he definitely won't get better.

I think (1)-(3) are true statements. I also think that together they imply giving Quad playing time in blowouts is a good/necessary thing that will help the team down the road. To me, there is only one exception to this: As I said above, and as others have stated, if Quad is ignoring what Mick is telling him to do when he is in the game, then I totally support Mick benching him.

 

[Madman81]

I agree with most of the points everyone has made. It didn't occur to me that Quad could be going out there and doing the exact opposite of what Cronin tells him to do -- shooting bad shots, not playing within the team, etc. So if that's the case, I'm totally fine with Quad riding the bench. But we'll never know if that's what's going on or not.

I also agree, as others have pointed out, that Quad is not entitled to playing time. This is DI ball, you have to earn your minutes, nothing is given to you just bc you're on scholarship.

When I say that I would like to see Quad get more minutes (in blowouts), 10% of the reason I feel that way is that I feel for him and really want to see him reach his potential. 90% is totally selfish -- I want the team to do well, and a playable Quad makes the team better. Here's my reasoning:

(1) Right now Quad is not nearly good enough to be productive against top competition.

(2) At some point between now and the end of the season, we will be in a close game against a good team (at least once, probably more) and Mick will need to play Quad. This will be necessary because of some combination of injuries, foul trouble (*cough* KW *cough*), or fatigue.

(3) In order to improve, Quad needs minutes. He may not dramatically improve even with minutes, but without seeing floor time he definitely won't get better.

I think (1)-(3) are true statements. I also think that together they imply giving Quad playing time in blowouts is a good/necessary thing that will help the team down the road. To me, there is only one exception to this: As I said above, and as others have stated, if Quad is ignoring what Mick is telling him to do when he is in the game, then I totally support Mick benching him.

i think we have real rotation players with things to work on and i'd rather see them play than waste minutes on quadri for a "maybe" type situation.

for quadri to be on the floor over brooks or scott as a coach's decision is reprehensible.

 

[waterhead]

I agree with most of the points everyone has made. It didn't occur to me that Quad could be going out there and doing the exact opposite of what Cronin tells him to do -- shooting bad shots, not playing within the team, etc. So if that's the case, I'm totally fine with Quad riding the bench. But we'll never know if that's what's going on or not.

I also agree, as others have pointed out, that Quad is not entitled to playing time. This is DI ball, you have to earn your minutes, nothing is given to you just bc you're on scholarship.

When I say that I would like to see Quad get more minutes (in blowouts), 10% of the reason I feel that way is that I feel for him and really want to see him reach his potential. 90% is totally selfish -- I want the team to do well, and a playable Quad makes the team better. Here's my reasoning:

(1) Right now Quad is not nearly good enough to be productive against top competition.

(2) At some point between now and the end of the season, we will be in a close game against a good team (at least once, probably more) and Mick will need to play Quad. This will be necessary because of some combination of injuries, foul trouble (*cough* KW *cough*), or fatigue.

(3) In order to improve, Quad needs minutes. He may not dramatically improve even with minutes, but without seeing floor time he definitely won't get better.

I think (1)-(3) are true statements. I also think that together they imply giving Quad playing time in blowouts is a good/necessary thing that will help the team down the road. To me, there is only one exception to this: As I said above, and as others have stated, if Quad is ignoring what Mick is telling him to do when he is in the game, then I totally support Mick benching him.

Being 5th big off the bench with the option of small ball coming in before that will net you about 2 minutes per game in our biggest/closest games. With a lack of trust it may not even net you that much.

If you do what coach is asking...or better yet don't do what he's asking you not to...you will see the floor. Jenifer is a prime example. They both got limited minutes last year... Jenifer is getting 10 more so far this year and Quadri has managed to get less.

The recipe is obvious and always has been. Some of quadris best games have been as a facilitator more than a scoring option. You will get your points if you can stay in the game...but selfish play over team play has been a disaster for Q.

I remember Mormon wanting to play his own game when he use to get minutes. That did not work out well for him. Our 5th big is not that important...if it becomes important we are in deep trouble. Playing a kid just because we are in deep trouble as opposed to playing him because he's doing things right is the definition of last resort.

 

[2bearcatdad]

The shame of it is that Q has some skills. He's got size, is a good screener when he does it, rebounds reasonably well (although this is largely a function of his size - I rarely see him box out) and he has a good shooting stroke.

The problem is - he doesn't do the things that are hard. Hustling while you're on the court is hard, fighting for rebounding position is hard, sliding your feet in a defensive position and banging on other bigs on defense is hard. Listening to coaches and concentrating when coaches are rolling out game plans is hard. Q rarely does those things.

You know what's easy and fun - hanging around the perimeter and jacking up shots nearly every time you touch the ball. That's what Q wants to do. The easy stuff.

This is 100% on Q in my mind. He has the ability to be a much better player and a bigger contributor to this team than he currently shows. However, until his work ethic improves, he doesn't deserve any more playing time than he's currently getting - or any sympathy from our fan base imo.

I'd love to see him have a change of heart like JJ has shown, but I haven't seen any signs of it yet.

Go Cats!

 

[rogerOH]

I still think Quadri is important because when we play a team that has good defensive bigs we will need to bring them out. If Quadri can make some perimeter shots that will happen. I think if Quadri could just get a some confidence in his shot his all around game would improve,right now he is just pressing too much.

 

[waterhead]

I still think Quadri is important because when we play a team that has good defensive bigs we will need to bring them out. If Quadri can make some perimeter shots that will happen. I think if Quadri could just get a some confidence in his shot his all around game would improve,right now he is just pressing too much.

I understand your point. However, all of our bigs can shoot a 3 if needed besides Brooks. The only way I like Quadri getting minutes is if he does all the other things being asked of him.