You can get good players. It just most transfers aren’t that good. At our level, we will get the guys that didn’t pan out at bigger schools. Those can still be good players. Semi from smu, Kyle Washington, Isaiah Mike at smu, Jarreau at Houston. Just have to find them. Plenty of good players out there.My issue with the whole grad transfer thing is we are basically getting another mid major talent. We wont attract a high lever grad transfer like a Seth Towns or anyone like that and that's okay but my biggest concern is we end up with another Sorolla or McNeal, 2 guys who are lower level talent and expecting them to all of a sudden play at a higher level in there 5th year at UC. I get we need a big body and its just a crap shoot with what you can get because most 5th year guys are transferring and are expecting to play big minutes.
This has to be the worse year for the American Conference, I don’t remember it being this bad.
Better yes, down a level, drastic view.
I may be in the minority here, but a grad transfer wing is a big priority for me this offseason. We'd be able to advertise a very attainable starting position (would have to beat out Harvey) and hopefully attract someone with a good amount of high major experience/was a mid-major star.
This would allow Harvey to better grow into his role next season (as well as Gabe Madsen) and if either Harvey/Gabe wins the starting spot midseason (ala MAW) they'll hopefully still have a high character mentor (like McNeal) who can push them in practice and accelerate their leadership and development.
I don’t think brannen would turn any talent down. No matter the position. Priority is bigs but I’m sure we will try any good player when can get.I may be in the minority here, but a grad transfer wing is a big priority for me this offseason. We'd be able to advertise a very attainable starting position (would have to beat out Harvey) and hopefully attract someone with a good amount of high major experience/was a mid-major star.
This would allow Harvey to better grow into his role next season (as well as Gabe Madsen) and if either Harvey/Gabe wins the starting spot midseason (ala MAW) they'll hopefully still have a high character mentor (like McNeal) who can push them in practice and accelerate their leadership and development.
This has to be the worse year for the American Conference, I don’t remember it being this bad.
Vogt is averaging 6 rebounds in 29 minutes, in conference he is even worse, averaging 5.4, while playing 30 minutes per game. In conference that is an average of 7.2 rebounds/40 minutes.
I agree he shouldn't average 10 per game, but he definitely should average at least 8 (and preferably 9+) rebounds per 40. 7.2 rebounds/40 for a 7 foot guy is terrible.
It was always bad. Houston wasn’t good till recently. Its always been a 1-2 good team league. The rest were trash. I think that’s why people remember mick dominating the league. Everyone was trash. In the recent years, I think it’s been a lot better. WSU, Houston, and at least teams that are decent. Smu, Tulsa, UCf, temple, Memphis. The last couple years a few of these teams were at least decent.
I’m not saying he is something he isn’t right now, that’s not the point I was making at all. It’s this no ceiling thing you have for Diarra but for some reason Vogt is literally as good as he will ever be. It makes absolutely no sense. Vogt is never going to be athletic, that’s a gimme. But he can become a little more agile, a little smarter about learning where to be for rebounds and he certainly can get stronger when it comes to boxing out. They are two different players and for some reason because Vogt isn’t a better version of Diarra you think he is terrible. I see his deficiencies, but I think he has just as much a chance to improve as anyone else. You’re just so far up Diarras ass it’s kind of weird
The difference is that Vogt's deficiencies are much harder (or impossible) to fix than Diarra's. Vogt is never going to become much more athletic, much more mobile or a skilled shooter. His shooting form is not something likely to be fixed in an off season. Sure he could add a little agility, a little strength, box out a little better. But his ceiling isn't much higher than what he is now: a guy who can beat up on undersized, less athletic teams, but who can't deal with teams that have size, strength and/or athleticism. Should be a backup at this level.
Diarra's issues are due to lack of experience. He has the size, the athleticism, the mobility, the shooting ability and even some ball handling. It's just a matter of him learning to put it all together. Experience is gained through playing time and as he gets more he will just continue to improve. That's part of why his improvement has been so rapid this season. Give him starting minutes and he may be the best player on the team by the end of next season.
Diarra is already far better on defense, a better rebounder and a better jump shooter than Vogt. Diarra is much more likely to surpass Vogt on offense (if you believe the conference ORTG numbers, he already has) than Vogt is to get near Diarra's level on defense/rebounding.
Dude you act like there’s isn’t a bunch of unathletic centers in the NBA who can’t shoot. He has plenty of upside.
im against the Vogt hate, but those guys don't exist in the NBA anymore.
It’s certainly not the 80s and 90s but there are still quite a few.
I'll be interested to see if Xavier's Jason Carter will put his name in the portal.
He hasn't exactly worked out at Xavier.
But I think he'd be a great fit for Brannen's system. And he'd be transferring down a level which may also help him.
I don't view has a hatable Xavier guy like most every white guy they bring in. But if he transferred, I say take him.
What's the craziest thing I said in that post? Just asking........
I just don't want Vogt to end up as "The Guy Who Knew Brannen's System"
He's had a good season as an unexpected early season scoring punch. Is that going to be all we can say? Yancey Gates was torn a new one for not grabbing rebounds by our fan base. It's okay to be critical of an obvious weakness in Vogt's game.
Think about it, if Mick was coaching this team where would Vogt be?
I'd say riding the pine.