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JasonS said:
The unfortunate thing about fans in the city of Cincinnati is they never know when they have something good going until it is gone. The negativity of Cincinnati fans is unbelievable to me. I would rather enjoy sports and have fun watching them than be so overly critical that it doesn't become fun any more.
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You don't hear me complaining about UC Football. I know a good thing and won't complain about it when we have it. It's kind of hard to classify the last 7 years of UC Basketball as a good thing. If we were winning games I wouldn't be complaining and I probably wouldn't post here nearly as frequently.
 
JasonS said:
The unfortunate thing about fans in the city of Cincinnati is they never know when they have something good going until it is gone. The negativity of Cincinnati fans is unbelievable to me. I would rather enjoy sports and have fun watching them than be so overly critical that it doesn't become fun any more.
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Amen Jason, people don't realize how lucky we are just to have the teams in the area we do. Plenty of cities our size don't have the luxury of having a MLB team, a NFL team, and 2 fairly major college programs with a third less than an hour and a half away.
 
ready2go said:
Apologize for what?

Getting on a guys case who makes hundreds of thousands to coach a basketball team and has under achieved thus far? That guy...

This is how the team should have been performing all season long. I'll hold out my praise for mediocrity until I see a good performance against quality teams
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Ucbearcats advocated for tge murder of mick cronin. He had given his heart and soul to this program that was on its deathbed when he took over. Uc is really coming on now
UCBearcats said:
Is this the same Mick Cronin that lost to Presbyterian at home? Lost to Marshall at home? Got blown out by Xavier? No, I don't think I'll take back any criticism I've had of Mick.

I'm happy that after 6 years he's willing to try something different on offense. We'll see how it works out when we aren't playing Wright St or Radford. What it should be Ralph is a wake up for people like you who blindly supported everything Mick did. Earlier in the season Mick said he didn't have the guys to win games if they weren't winning ugly and he refused to identify his offense as an issue. Now he makes a change that people like me have been screaming for the last 6 years and it appears to be working against inferior competition.

Actually Ralph, I think you should apologize to me and the rest of the "anti mick team" for the fact that you are such a blind homer. I'll gladly accept your apology whenever you are ready.
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I'm not ralph and I'm not a homer. I know c coaching talent when I see it.. Mick is one the great ones
 
Yes, you are Ralph and it's a shame the mods can't even figure that out.

Other than that, who cares about the Mick is god/Mick Sucks argument. Start a new thread and argue ad nauseam in there. Of course that would mean that we would never see Ralphie again because he can't post anything that doesn't have to do with Mick, but that would definitely benefit man kind.
 
UCBearcats said:
You don't hear me complaining about UC Football. I know a good thing and won't complain about it when we have it. It's kind of hard to classify the last 7 years of UC Basketball as a good thing. If we were winning games I wouldn't be complaining and I probably wouldn't post here nearly as frequently.
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I don't know if you go to the UC Football games or not, but there is plenty of complaining to go around.
 
JasonS said:
I don't know if you go to the UC Football games or not, but there is plenty of complaining to go around.
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I go to every game. Brian Kelly did great things here. Last season was kind of a mess and I really had an issue with the penalties. This season's progress from last season was huge. We've won 3 of the last 4 Big East titles and if it wasn't for Collaros going down we'd be in our 3rd BCS game in 4 year. The red zone offense has been suspect and the defense was horrible the beginning of the year but imrpoved as a unit as the season went on.

Bottom line is that the team wins games. Football was never a big deal here until the last decade or so and it's been great to finally be relevant.

I don't know if you're trying to be funny or what but BBall is much worse off than our Football program is right now.
 
UCBearcats said:
I go to every game. Brian Kelly did great things here. Last season was kind of a mess and I really had an issue with the penalties. This season's progress from last season was huge. We've won 3 of the last 4 Big East titles and if it wasn't for Collaros going down we'd be in our 3rd BCS game in 4 year. The red zone offense has been suspect and the defense was horrible the beginning of the year but imrpoved as a unit as the season went on.

Bottom line is that the team wins games. Football was never a big deal here until the last decade or so and it's been great to finally be relevant.

I don't know if you're trying to be funny or what but BBall is much worse off than our Football program is right now.
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I wasn't directing any of the complaining specifically at you but I can tell you that every single game this year I heard people complain about Butch and saying things like, "I hope he leaves for North Carolina."
 
JasonS said:
I wasn't directing any of the complaining specifically at you but I can tell you that every single game this year I heard people complain about Butch and saying things like, "I hope he leaves for North Carolina."
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In game coaching is still an unknown, he has made some baffling decisions thus far (but to his credit he is following BK, the best in game coach I've seen). However you cannot deny the absolute monster recruiting ability the guy has, he is truly building a program.
 
TheLongHaul said:
Yes, you are Ralph and it's a shame the mods can't even figure that out.

Other than that, who cares about the Mick is god/Mick Sucks argument. Start a new thread and argue ad nauseam in there. Of course that would mean that we would never see Ralphie again because he can't post anything that doesn't have to do with Mick, but that would definitely benefit man kind.
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Now you are looking silly. I am not ralph and the mods realize this.

You are quick to bash mick when the results are bad but when the results are good you diminish his coaching.

Your bias is showing. Give credit where credit is due
 
BearcatMick said:
Now you are looking silly. I am not ralph and the mods realize this.

You are quick to bash mick when the results are bad but when the results are good you diminish his coaching.

Your bias is showing. Give credit where credit is due
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Whatever you say Ralphie. :rolleyes:

When have I been quick to diminish his coaching or quick to bash him?
 
TheLongHaul said:
Whatever you say Ralphie. :rolleyes:

When have I been quick to diminish his coaching or quick to bash him?
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I am NOT ralph. Also i didn't mean to include you in the mick bashers group I apologize.

That comment was for don't, ucbearcats, and the others. I should have clarified it more
 
JasonS said:
I wasn't directing any of the complaining specifically at you but I can tell you that every single game this year I heard people complain about Butch and saying things like, "I hope he leaves for North Carolina."
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There are some people out there who will complain no matter what. Hell, there were people who complained about Huggins. Would have been nice to have a better record in the tourney but all things considered we had it pretty damn good back then. I'm willing to give credit where credit is due. You won't hear me calling for CBJ's job as long as he's winning. I was willing to write off his first year in hopes he'd turn it around this season and he did. Anyone who thinks after this year that him leaving is a good thing is nuts.

Can't say the same thing for Mick. At this point he's going to have to win (pun intended) my trust back. I'm not talking making the tourney every few years, I'm talking make the tourney every year, compete to win the conference, crack the top 10, top 5, ect ect ect. That's what I expect and right now he's not even close.

I'm sure people will claim that it isn't possible for us to be that good but I'm going to say BS. Marquette is top 10 right now. Is Villanova more attractive than UC? Is Xavier? We've been there before and we can be there again, maybe not with Mick, but we can get back there.
 
BearcatMick said:
I am NOT ralph. Also i didn't mean to include you in the mick bashers group I apologize.

That comment was for don't, ucbearcats, and the others. I should have clarified it more
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I'm offended. I have a name :D

I'd call it coach bashing. I have nothing against Mick Cronin the person
 
If Cronin has back to back tournament seasons, I'm fairly certain people will stop whining. That's not to say, I think they'll bother to show up to games.
I think some fans are still delusional from the Huggins days. Not taking into account the difference in competition level, and the dumb dumbs who Huggins recruited.
One guy at work a while back, was commenting on how it didn't take Kennedy any time to get a 20 win season, I felt like kicking him in the nuts. Always annoys me when people ignore the context surrounding a situation.


On the other hand, it does seem like Mick is still learning. Is a great coach? Not yet. Does that mean he's a bad coach or unfit for Cincinnati? Not necessarily.
I think it's hilarious he was riding high in most people's minds, and because he has a rocky start to the season, they're all in Defcon batsh*t mode.
He deserves criticism, he doesn't deserve a lynch mob. That's not something I see a lot of here though.


I love the other boards I look at. People talking about how it's not fair to compare Cronin to Crean, because Crean is the real deal... Never mind that he had Dwayne fkn Wade to carry what was an otherwise forgettable team. Or that Indiana has had better recruiting classes that past few years, oh no, it must be that Crean is a coaching god blah blah blah blah...
Have you ever seen Crean's plays coming out of a time out? His teams don't execute well at all. Crean is a mediocore coach, with very good talent at his disposal.
 
Butterfly said:
If Cronin has back to back tournament seasons, I'm fairly certain people will stop whining. That's not to say, I think they'll bother to show up to games.
I think some fans are still delusional from the Huggins days. Not taking into account the difference in competition level, and the dumb dumbs who Huggins recruited.
One guy at work a while back, was commenting on how it didn't take Kennedy any time to get a 20 win season, I felt like kicking him in the nuts. Always annoys me when people ignore the context surrounding a situation.


On the other hand, it does seem like Mick is still learning. Is a great coach? Not yet. Does that mean he's a bad coach or unfit for Cincinnati? Not necessarily.
I think it's hilarious he was riding high in most people's minds, and because he has a rocky start to the season, they're all in Defcon batsh*t mode.
He deserves criticism, he doesn't deserve a lynch mob. That's not something I see a lot of here though.


I love the other boards I look at. People talking about how it's not fair to compare Cronin to Crean, because Crean is the real deal... Never mind that he had Dwayne fkn Wade to carry what was an otherwise forgettable team. Or that Indiana has had better recruiting classes that past few years, oh no, it must be that Crean is a coaching god blah blah blah blah...
Have you ever seen Crean's plays coming out of a time out? His teams don't execute well at all. Crean is a mediocore coach, with very good talent at his disposal.
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Being 11-0... And beating the #1 team in the country... And only being in his 4th or 5th year after taking over from a disaster...And being able TO RECRUIT...has little to do with coaching?
 
ready2go said:
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Being 11-0... And beating the #1 team in the country... And only being in his 4th or 5th year after taking over from a disaster...And being able TO RECRUIT...has little to do with coaching?
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The sun even shines on a dog's ass some days.
Davidson's leading Kansas right now...(refs are helping Kansas.)
It's not like they blew the doors off Kentucky and it's not like Kentucky has ever been good on the road for Calipari.
He's 11-0, add that to the previous couple season's results, and he's still bad statistically speaking.
As for recruiting, the Indiana brand recruits by itself man.
More tradition, bigger more dedicated fan base.
 
Let's wait to see what the final result of the season will be. If this team makes the NCAA again this talk stops for the most part. If not the bashing is legit. Final results will tell.
 

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