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They scored 71 on the road yesterday. Offense was not the problem. They gave up 76. Defense and rebounding were the problem. I thought Mick's big deficiency yesterday was his defensive game plan. Stayed in the zone too long after Rhode Island cracked it. I was very encouraged by the talent I saw on the floor yesterday. I think we will be a very confident bunch come March. I was very discouraged that a veteran experienced team showed similar traits to last year as a unit. Team simply needs to learn how to play with a lead. We had them on the ropes, it's maddening.

Jack, you're right. We have a lot of talent this year. We had talent last year as well. Everyone is blaming KJ. The truth is, Cronin is the coaching equivalent of KJ. This guy had found his niche coaching Murray St. He came in, used the previous coach's recruits, did well, and then did a Brian Kelly and left the tank on empty when he bolted for his dream job. Billy Kennedy had nothing when he took over Murray St. and he had to replace 12 players in his first season and they went 16-14. Under Cronin, we've made a habit of losing important games, losing lots of big home games, losing to X, and losing to teams like Harvard, St. Joe, Creighton, when it counts in March. The pattern never changes for this coach....just like it hasn't changed for KJ. And thus, it's not changing for our program.

I agree with you that we should be excited by the talent. Our only hope is that the talent can overcome the coach. I feel sorry for KJ though. He's one of our few Cincinnati recruits and it would have been nice to see him flourish. Like Shaq and many others before him, KJ came in here 4 years and never got better. I still have hope though that this team will change the program's fortunes. They're definitely a lot more fun and pleasing to the eye.
 
I was at the game. It was very loud. Essentially a home game for Rhody. We lost the game because we did not get 1 50/50 ball. Especially in the second half. Rhode Island is a very similar team to ours, but I would say slightly more talented overall.

The coach seemed more talented as well. He adjusted at halftime and we had no answer for it.
 
We're just UC. If some of you guys would stop living in the past and realize that we shouldn't expect to win games against perennial powers like Rhode Island then you wouldn't be so upset.

It's not Mick's fault he got out coached guys. Our coaches Dad coached at LaSalle, their coaches Dad is in the Naismith Hall of Fame. Our coaches brother eats hot dogs and screams at the refs, their coaches brother played in the NBA and coaches at Arizona State. The deck was stacked against us from the start.

Don't go expecting that win against Penn State today. Remember, they're a P5 school and we're not. It's almost impossible for us to expect a win. .
 
We're just UC. If some of you guys would stop living in the past and realize that we shouldn't expect to win games against perennial powers like Rhode Island then you wouldn't be so upset.

It's not Mick's fault he got out coached guys. Our coaches Dad coached at LaSalle, their coaches Dad is in the Naismith Hall of Fame. Our coaches brother eats hot dogs and screams at the refs, their coaches brother played in the NBA and coaches at Arizona State. The deck was stacked against us from the start.

Don't go expecting that win against Penn State today. Remember, they're a P5 school and we're not. It's almost impossible for us to expect a win. .

You're right... What were we thinking? Lol darn expectations
 
Ah yes... I remember. First few games we are going to be final 4 material. First loss equals complete fan meltdown.
 
Ah yes... I remember. First few games we are going to be final 4 material. First loss equals complete fan meltdown.

Final 4 talk is always based on talent. Meltdowns are coach related, as they should be. Players change, but the coach is the same, and so are most of the issues.
 
Looks like Gary is having trouble adjusting to a stud coming in and taking over. I hope Gary learns from watching and starts to assert himself. He has regressed with Washington in there.

So far Troy hasn't been very effective either. Now that we have two players better on offense we can stop forcing Troy to the bucket at the end of game to get rejected. Please!

When and if Gary and Troy get their groove back...we should be fine. Chemistry isn't there yet...but hopefully it will.
 
Looks like Gary is having trouble adjusting to a stud coming in and taking over. I hope Gary learns from watching and starts to assert himself. He has regressed with Washington in there.

So far Troy hasn't been very effective either. Now that we have two players better on offense we can stop forcing Troy to the bucket at the end of game to get rejected. Please!

When and if Gary and Troy get their groove back...we should be fine. Chemistry isn't there yet...but hopefully it will.

hate to say this but this team could use Cane Broome.
 
Final 4 talk is always based on talent. Meltdowns are coach related, as they should be. Players change, but the coach is the same, and so are most of the issues.

Correct. Interesting that two years ago we were actually pretty good at closing out in big games when we held on San Diego St, @SMU, @Tulsa, and of course the Purdue comeback. I wonder what was different that season.
 
Correct. Interesting that two years ago we were actually pretty good at closing out in big games when we held on San Diego St, @SMU, @Tulsa, and of course the Purdue comeback. I wonder what was different that season.

Probably that we've only had one close game?
 
Final 4 talk is always based on talent. Meltdowns are coach related, as they should be. Players change, but the coach is the same, and so are most of the issues.

If you (not you specifically) melted down because you were expecting a coaching transformation...you need your head checked. The only reason I expect to have better seasons at this point are better players. Which I believe we have.

Give them a little time to gel together. Let's see what we can do before we place too many limits on them because of coach.
 
I think Rhode Island will beat Duke today. Duke is injured and Rhode Island is at home(basically) playing with momentum.
 
If you (not you specifically) melted down because you were expecting a coaching transformation...you need your head checked. The only reason I expect to have better seasons at this point are better players. Which I believe we have.

Give them a little time to gel together. Let's see what we can do before we place too many limits on them because of coach.

The coach failing to make a defensive adjustment yesterday cost us the game. It will most likely happen again. Hearing him blame "toughness" just showed he couldn't immediately identify X's and O's wise what happened. Just saying "be tougher" isn't an answer. Our players were plenty tough. They just got spread too thin in the zone once Rhode Island started finding good looks from 3. Somehow we expect our guys to guard the line AND be able to rebound. Rhode Island was too well coached to let us take everything away from them. Eventually they stretched us until we broke and we couldn't cover anything bc we had been defeated. They were one step ahead of us. If that game would've gone 10 more minutes, we would've lost by 15+. It's disappointing. On one hand Cronin takes the blame but then basically puts it on the players for "not bring tough enough". It's bogus. Really disappointing to drop that one. We should've won the game.
 
The concern I have is these types of issues haven't been fixed in the past few years. We lose games early in the season the same way we do late in the season. We finally have two legitimate studs on offense and still can't get over 70 points until the final minute.

Kevin Johnson needs to be out of the rotation starting tomorrow.
True that. These issues ( corner threes, not being tough) should have been fixed. - it is the coaches and players responsibility.
 
Cumberland not knowing to foul there? That's coaching.
Washington taking the lazy jump 2 when we're trailing by 4 but in the bonus? That's coaching.
Not getting the ball to Evans more frequently? That's coaching.
Letting "Slow"pain walk the ball up in the last 4 minutes when you're trailing? That's coaching.
Kevin Johnson not closing out on ECM with less than a minute left? That's coaching.

Cronin has been a leech, getting enough success at the right times to keep his job while draining the life out of the program and the honor of the UC name.

We make it so hard. You are the bonus. Spread the floor, drive the ball. Win the game. This has been a recurring issue. This a simple formula Bob Knight used. He could beat you with people will could screen, pass and shoot free throws.
 
Why didn't we ditch the zone once they started drilling us towards the end of the first half? We just sat there and got outscored by 17 the rest of the way bc we didn't rebound and gave up open 3s...the 2 flaws of a zone...
Last year too!! He doesn't mix it up or just plain change D. Frustrating. Wth are his assistants doing. It is their job to point something out, and his job to trust them at times.
 
The coach failing to make a defensive adjustment yesterday cost us the game. It will most likely happen again. Hearing him blame "toughness" just showed he couldn't immediately identify X's and O's wise what happened. Just saying "be tougher" isn't an answer. Our players were plenty tough. They just got spread too thin in the zone once Rhode Island started finding good looks from 3. Somehow we expect our guys to guard the line AND be able to rebound. Rhode Island was too well coached to let us take everything away from them. Eventually they stretched us until we broke and we couldn't cover anything bc we had been defeated. They were one step ahead of us. If that game would've gone 10 more minutes, we would've lost by 15+. It's disappointing. On one hand Cronin takes the blame but then basically puts it on the players for "not bring tough enough". It's bogus. Really disappointing to drop that one. We should've won the game.

Regardless of what excuse gets used it falls on coach. Specifically toughness. I don't see that as blaming players really
 
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