Season Updates

BearcatTalk

Help Support BearcatTalk:

cincyguy13 said:
Don’t be that guy. Give the guy a chance before we want the guy fired.
Click to expand...

Agreed, most of this fan base are in love with the Huggins era and hopefully this can unite us in some way, Brannen was crucified from literally day one, when some of the best players from past teams are killing you on social media it makes it hard to move forward, most fans aren't like us, they don't follow as closely as we do, so to them this is like bringing a piece of Huggins back. I liked Mick (I wish he did better in the tournament) John Brannen was an ass and his staff was basically his NKU staff which I knew would not work here and then he brought in Chris Vogt... but I was all in on him until he basically told our senior conference player of the year that it was his was or no way, well until we started to lose and then John caved but that's in the past. No matter who the coach is I think we should all be on board until given a reason not to. The situation is a little different this time around, John came into a great situation and ran it into the ground. Erik is coming into a mess and I don't think he can miss on his staff or his early recruits.
 
I would hope part of a head coach interview would include potential plans to hire assistants and where strengths and weaknesses may be. Apparently that went well.

He's had a lot of time to learn from Huggs. NVE would provide a different type of experience to the staff. Would need another experienced coach I would assume and then someone else who can help with recruiting.
 
Never forget Devin Williams from Withrow. He was underutilized raw talent at Withrow, but was able to get with Huggs at WVU, and Martin and crew got him together to the point of possibly being drafted.

Hopefully if it's Martin, we will have some skilled bigs for years to come.
 
If we are looking at the local players in the next couple seasons, maybe this was the best hire we could make to get those guys. It sure would be fun if we could win with local guys.


There are guys in the portal to be had. Hopefully he can convince everybody we currently have to stay and we can pick a few guys off the portal.
 
Loser Mentality said:
Never forget Devin Williams from Withrow. He was underutilized raw talent at Withrow, but was able to get with Huggs at WVU, and Martin and crew got him together to the point of possibly being drafted.

Hopefully if it's Martin, we will have some skilled bigs for years to come.
Click to expand...
McBride nba player
 
So we're going with the Assistant to the Assistant to the Regional Manager.

Seems like a risky move, but we'll see what happens. I have no idea what to expect from Martin. Is he a strategist or a recruiter at this point in his career? Or can he be a good manager that relies on a top level staff?
 
sedziobs said:
So we're going with the Assistant to the Assistant to the Regional Manager.

Seems like a risky move, but we'll see what happens. I have no idea what to expect from Martin. Is he a strategist or a recruiter at this point in his career? Or can he be a good manager that relies on a top level staff?
Click to expand...



About time we take some positive risks. I'd rather have a coach that we don't know what to expect, versus someone we can analyze as fans, and create our own entitlement.

A true "Sit Back and Enjoy the Ride Moment" if hired.

In life something may always go wrong, to bad we are always looking at the worst before we even start.
 
I think this hire more to do with Donors than it does actual basketball.

The Red Sweater vests have been longing for Huggins Era 2.0 and they likely will cough up more money if its Erik Martin.
 
cincrulz11 said:
Did Martin have some recruiting chops? I'm really not sure what he did for WVU. Anybody got a break down of what to expect?
Click to expand...

Then maybe you should stop crying or whining about analytics and give the guy a chance.

At the very least, if you're going to put a guy "10th on your list" and call him the "4th assistant" you should at least do some reseach on the guy.
 
Rumor on BCN from a poster that's been right about a few things lately, earlier than anywhere else I've seen, is that Tari and Mikey are returning.
 
Guarantee if we bring in Martin and Van Exel we'll have a much better chance with the local kids, specifically Paul McMillian IV, than we would have with someone like Casey Alexander or Gates.
 
MDW79 said:
Then maybe you should stop crying or whining about analytics and give the guy a chance.
Click to expand...
Can't speak for cincrulz, but I'm not going to stop prioritizing (or crying or whining about) analytics. Martin has no record to analyze, so all we can do is give him a chance. Same with recruiting. Can he recruit for himself and the school rather than for Huggins? We don't know yet.
 
sedziobs said:
Can't speak for cincrulz, but I'm not going to stop prioritizing (or crying or whining about) analytics. Martin has no record to analyze, so all we can do is give him a chance. Same with recruiting. Can he recruit for himself and the school rather than for Huggins? We don't know yet.
Click to expand...


Yeah, it's all about the process. Martin could end up being the best of anybody I had on my lists, but he most definitely didn't have the best resume. It would have been better if he had coached somewhere for a few years, it decreases the risk.


All coaches are risky though. There aren't a lot of Nate Oates out there.


And as for analytics, I mean they are a major part of sports now. People can deny it all they want, but the teams that don't incorporate it will fall behind teams that do. We've seen it in every sport. As I said at the beginning of this, we aren't likely to have top 10 recruiting classes, but you can try to make up for it by taking advantage of different aspects of the game.
 
Contract negotiations might be interesting given what just transpired with Brannen. Buyout and cause language could be very specific.
 
State of Cincinnati is once again UC basketball. You have best two local guys since oj and bill walker coming out next two years. Martin was Jarred redden(McMillan HS coach) coach at Cincinnati state. I can see move where they get griffin and McMillan on same high school team next year to make run at national title then both come play for us.
 
sedziobs said:
Contract negotiations might be interesting given what just transpired with Brannen. Buyout and cause language could be very specific.
Click to expand...

It benefits us that Martin really wants this job. The brannen stuff could have caused a breakdown with other coaches.

Martin might be willing to have a lower buy-out and such to get to coach here. Where the program currently is will likely give him more years than Brannen had since he's going to have to rebuild.
 
MDW79 said:
Guarantee if we bring in Martin and Van Exel we'll have a much better chance with the local kids, specifically Paul McMillian IV, than we would have with someone like Casey Alexander or Gates.
Click to expand...

Paul already was leaning towards us, this move makes it 90% he’s bearcat. Within minutes of being hired he needs offer Lil P. Griffin, and darryn peterson(top 3 nba pick whenever he come out), sending messages that we gone after our own and want win with Ohio kids
 
If he was 3rd or 4th assistant then I’m pretty sure he handled analytics in some way. Nve it’s almost guarantee he handled analytics
 

Similar threads

Q
Temple Part II
Replies
6
Views
16K
sirthought
S
Q
Merrimack
Replies
7
Views
31K
sedziobs
S
Q
ECU Part II
2 3
Replies
46
Views
48K
TheRealMick
T
Q
AAC Tournament Quarterfinals: Temple
Replies
14
Views
25K
sedziobs
S
Q
AAC Tournament Quarterfinals: Houston
Replies
3
Views
12K
Queens_NYC
Q

Latest posts

Back
Top