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I understand why folks do it, but it always cracks me up when I get on a thread here and see guys talking about a UC blowout. Predicting this team to blow anyone out is an exercise in insanity and futility. The old adage "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome..."?
The few times they've blown anyone out has been through a confluence of abnormalities. This team doesn't play a STYLE conducive to blowing anyone out. They play the same passive, tedious, 35-50 shots/game style with 10-20 unforced turnovers. Play a style like that and you allow inferior teams to hang around and do what ECU and Tulane have done. They've squeaked by a time or two with superior rebounding, shot blocking and adequate 3 point/FT shooting. Last week or so, they haven't even had those things to fall back on.
I think Coach D said it best on "Any Given Sunday" - if you're gonna make mistakes, make 'em big. Make 'em playing hard and aggressive. That's why I don't have an issue with DeShaun Morman. He's out there trying. He's taking it to the hoop. He flashes to the ft line. He rebounds. And he actually looks and ACTS like he gives a damn. He makes mistakes that I personally can live with as a 25+ year supporter of this program and what it represents.
The difference when UC made their run was that for about 2 minutes, Troy Caupain decided he was going to start playing basketball. During that stretch, he took it straight to the rim twice. The key to this entire team is whether Troy is assertive on the floor and aggressive to the rim. Period, paragraph.
So, today's loss makes it 3 out of 5, with 2 coming to pretty bad teams at a pretty bad time, and some pretty bad basketball folded inside those 2 wins. How many times since February started have you said "man, that looks like a tournament team?". Answer: it's not a tournament team. Quit whining about being tired, suck it up like men and start playing good, hard, aggressive Bearcat basketball and prove me wrong. That's it.
The few times they've blown anyone out has been through a confluence of abnormalities. This team doesn't play a STYLE conducive to blowing anyone out. They play the same passive, tedious, 35-50 shots/game style with 10-20 unforced turnovers. Play a style like that and you allow inferior teams to hang around and do what ECU and Tulane have done. They've squeaked by a time or two with superior rebounding, shot blocking and adequate 3 point/FT shooting. Last week or so, they haven't even had those things to fall back on.
I think Coach D said it best on "Any Given Sunday" - if you're gonna make mistakes, make 'em big. Make 'em playing hard and aggressive. That's why I don't have an issue with DeShaun Morman. He's out there trying. He's taking it to the hoop. He flashes to the ft line. He rebounds. And he actually looks and ACTS like he gives a damn. He makes mistakes that I personally can live with as a 25+ year supporter of this program and what it represents.
The difference when UC made their run was that for about 2 minutes, Troy Caupain decided he was going to start playing basketball. During that stretch, he took it straight to the rim twice. The key to this entire team is whether Troy is assertive on the floor and aggressive to the rim. Period, paragraph.
So, today's loss makes it 3 out of 5, with 2 coming to pretty bad teams at a pretty bad time, and some pretty bad basketball folded inside those 2 wins. How many times since February started have you said "man, that looks like a tournament team?". Answer: it's not a tournament team. Quit whining about being tired, suck it up like men and start playing good, hard, aggressive Bearcat basketball and prove me wrong. That's it.
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Good post Doogle
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i just gave you an internet hige five!
mick will get a pass on this team by some because hee wasn't on the sidelines. even though his blueprint is all over this team.
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If Morman doesn't start the next game, I'll be very disappointed. He deserves a chance...and maybe more importantly, some other guys don't. I've been in favor of KJ for a long time, but he just isn't turning the corner. If it would make some people feel better, feel free to let me know how wrong I was 
. I'd personally go with TC, Cobb, Morman, Clark, Ellis from here on out. I like Sanders but we just can't have him missing so many open shots. And no more predictions from me Doogle! This team is killing my optimism. I've never seen such a passive UC team in my life. It's hard to get too excited about the future of this group, bc a killer instinct is something you either have or you don't. And Ellis, Morman and Cobb are about the only ones who have it.
. I'd personally go with TC, Cobb, Morman, Clark, Ellis from here on out. I like Sanders but we just can't have him missing so many open shots. And no more predictions from me Doogle! This team is killing my optimism. I've never seen such a passive UC team in my life. It's hard to get too excited about the future of this group, bc a killer instinct is something you either have or you don't. And Ellis, Morman and Cobb are about the only ones who have it.Bearcatboy
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42 points inside the arc. No threes. Terrible from the stripe. Out rebounded by a smaller team. Last two games it's seems are effort has lacked. We killed this team inside the paint today. I thought I was watching a replay everytime Ellis caught the ball on the block he rolled to the hole and got a good look. They killed us on the glass and with second chance points. Don't think we shot 50 percent from foul line and did not make a jumper and still almost won the game.
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Unless Cobb is going to board the basketball and shoot better then he did today with better selection his insertion into the line up will not fix the problem. We were out played physically the last two games.
Clearly something is going on
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Well Cobb had the board part down today. He led the team with 7...but that really speaks to your point and says it all...the smallest guy on our team had the same # of rebounds as KJ + Sanders + Troy + Clark. 4 of the starters...Really unbelievable
When team was running and having fun was when Mick was still real sick. Now that he basically back coach team isn't responding to LD.
Cobb I think had 7-8 rebounds
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combine are terrible FT shooting and not making a 3 with the amount of second chance points we gave up I'm surprised we were in position to win in the end. As mentioned we have been out played physically the last two games. Don't know where our toughness on the glass has gone but we look soft lately.
Something serious happened with Caupain benching that's not been mentioned. We all thought it was farfatigue. Now Im thinking either team quit on LD and want Mick back or team don't like Mick coaching from sideline. Between Mick and LD somebody is laying down hammer and players aren't responding.
If LD really benched Caupain at the start of the ECU game for getting 2 technicals that I don't think were deserved, then LD is partially responsible for shackling a kid that was just starting to become a vocal and performance leader.
If Caupain doesn't realize that he can still be aggressive without crossing the line, and respond better to a little punishment (deserved or not), then he's responsible for not only sabotaging his own game, but that of the entire team.
Plenty of blame to go around here.
If Morman doesn't start the next game, I'll be very disappointed. He deserves a chance...and maybe more importantly, some other guys don't. I've been in favor of KJ for a long time, but he just isn't turning the corner. If it would make some people feel better, feel free to let me know how wrong I was
I texted my brother "remember when young guys like Gregor would do something stupid and T-Rat, Martin and Nelson would climb all over him before he even got over to Huggs?" and my brother texted back "this team is all Robins...no Batman". It's true. You would either run through a wall to win a game or you wouldn't. We're so used to guys like Van Exel. Durden. Burton. Martin. Brannen. Hicks. Maxiell. I-Mac. Kilpatrick. Jackson. And a list of guys who didn't start their careers belonging in that group but figured it out and became true Bearcats. D'Juan Baker. Levett. Jamal Davis. And so on. We're so used to our guys having the will if not the skill, that it's beyond shocking when we see a team roll over like this.
I often have thought of John Williamson and Deonta Vaughn this year, and how hard those guys played knowing they were overmatched on most nights. And while it may sound melodramatic, I feel like this year's team is disrespecting players like those 2 guys, and all the other Bearcats who came before them, with their complete lack of fire and aggression. It's frustrating and sad to watch games like the ECU game and today's game.
All that being said, I realize this team has serious issues at the 3 spot, too much youth and inexperience at the 4, and not nearly enough consistency and scoring at the 2. But there's no excuse for not taking it to the rim, getting outrebounded by smaller, inferior opponents, and passing it around the perimeter incessantly before throwing it away or traveling with nobody around.
Make mistakes because you're playing hard and aggressive. That's all I want. Lose games because you were beaten by a better team, not because you somnambulated for 35 minutes.
Make mistakes because you're playing hard and aggressive. That's all I want. Lose games because you were beaten by a better team, not because you somnambulated for 35 minutes.
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Its cool to lead but look at what he gives up. I'm sorry but we have some bad Defense of players on this team. They tell Cobbs to shoot, but you have to make shots difficult for the other team and the only people that does that is Johnson, Morman, Clark and Ellis after them you get no defense at all. My opinion, I'm watching the game right now. Yeah we need Some people to score more but the coaches are telling them something different. Trust me I know!
Its cool to lead but look at what he gives up. I'm sorry but we have some bad Defense of players on this team. They tell Cobbs to shoot, but you have to make shots difficult for the other team and the only people that does that is Johnson, Morman, Clark and Ellis after them you get no defense at all. My opinion, I'm watching the game right now. Yeah we need Some people to score more but the coaches are telling them something different. Trust me I know!
They held Nebraska to 56 points, 32.7% shooting in 2 OTs.
They held ECU to 50 points, 39.6% shooting, 21.1% 3pt shooting.
They held Tulane to 50 points, 34.6% shooting, 27.3% 3pt shooting.
They lost all 3 games.
When you're losing games like this, it's hard to convince anyone that defense is the reason.
They held ECU to 50 points, 39.6% shooting, 21.1% 3pt shooting.
They held Tulane to 50 points, 34.6% shooting, 27.3% 3pt shooting.
They lost all 3 games.
When you're losing games like this, it's hard to convince anyone that defense is the reason.
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