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He did. Gabe and Mason likely two best shooters a uc team has had in a decade. They are also freshman and need to learn to play vs more athletic guys

Based on what? Them being midwestern white boys? What the hell are we going off them being best shooters in forever?
 
I be trying come here and participate, cincyguy13 just sucks the life out of this site. I get supporting our team but give it a break my friend, JB is terrible. Cut our losses now and move on. This hire was worse than tubby

I’ve said brannen hasn’t been great. I’ve said there are many questions, he hasn’t done much to quiet the critics. People want a fully loaded roster in a year and a half and for Keith and dou to be something they aren’t.
 
I’ve said brannen hasn’t been great. I’ve said there are many questions, he hasn’t done much to quiet the critics. People want a fully loaded roster in a year and a half and for Keith and dou to be something they aren’t.

I get that but right now Keith still best guard on team and I’ll take dou over any big
 
I’ve said brannen hasn’t been great. I’ve said there are many questions, he hasn’t done much to quiet the critics. People want a fully loaded roster in a year and a half and for Keith and dou to be something they aren’t.

Correct. Completely correct.
 
He'd bring in one NBA level player per year. Plus some other pieces. Again, Brannen blew the recruiting of transfer, has done horrible with big men and couldn't keep (or forced out) Cronin recruits. I don't expect perfection from his freshmen/sophomore's (though I did expect more than what I have seen).

You can believe that, I'll take Cronin's history of making NCAA tournaments and consistent player development.

So Cronin put 12 guys in the nba?
 
So Cronin put 12 guys in the nba?

The guy won 3 regular season titles, 2 conference tournaments, sent 4-5 guys to the nba, 1 sweet 16, in 12 years and people legit act like the guy is a god. I don’t understand it.
But he went to the tournament so many years in a row, great. Give him a medal
 
The guy won 3 regular season titles, 2 conference tournaments, sent 4-5 guys to the nba, 1 sweet 16, in 12 years and people legit act like the guy is a god. I don’t understand it.
But he went to the tournament so many years in a row, great. Give him a medal

Exactly, I think it was only 2 regular conference titles. The blinders are insane. Stack wins against cupcakes, mediocre league record, make the tourney as a low seed and have an early exit....
 
Exactly, I think it was only 2 regular conference titles. The blinders are insane. Stack wins against cupcakes, mediocre league record, make the tourney as a low seed and have an early exit....

So what, we should be happy with Brannen losing over half his games and not making the NCAA tournament? I don't think anyone says Cronin was perfect, but he sure was a lot better than Brannen has been.
 
By the end of his time here he was averaging one per year.

I think comparing these coaches and situations are useless but let’s not pretend even the players who did go NBA have been lighting it up.

It was always borderline except one season. On the bubble. Players who either didn’t get drafted or were late.

Eason could end up better than all of them in NBA who knows.

Chill out and watch. There will be plenty of time to bitch
 
So what, we should be happy with Brannen losing over half his games and not making the NCAA tournament? I don't think anyone says Cronin was perfect, but he sure was a lot better than Brannen has been.

Well in one and a half years he has half as many conference championships as Cronin had in 12.
 
Well in one and a half years he has half as many conference championships as Cronin had in 12.

Clearly you won this argument.

Brannen is better then Mick Cronin. You heard it here first.

Just an FYI though that UCLA is 3-0 in the pac 12, UC Is 0-3 in the American and we haven’t even played Houston or Memphis.


I get saying.... let’s let this play out. Because literally that’s all we can do. They signed him for 6 frickin years, it should have been 4 but they signed him to 6 so no matter what we’re stuck with him for at least 2 more seasons before we can even afford a buy out,

But saying that you see something in the product on the court that gives you hope, to Me that’s just denial. The same problems that plagued us last season are still here only worse bc we don’t have jarron, Jaevin & Tre to save our ass.

Right the only hope we have is that coach does something completely different because I don’t see a fluid offense, or cohesive defense. I see at absolutel mess of a team, inside the locker room and on the court.
 
So what, we should be happy with Brannen losing over half his games and not making the NCAA tournament? I don't think anyone says Cronin was perfect, but he sure was a lot better than Brannen has been.

No don’t be happy, of course. The team is trash. Just don’t act like everything Cronin did was great and everything brannen does is terrible. Cronin didn’t make every player a star. He had a lot of misses, a lot. Every coach does. Just because dou and Keith aren’t great players, isn’t brannen fault. Isn’t Cronin either. Especially Keith. Brannen is giving him every chance to succeed
 
Clearly you won this argument.

Brannen is better then Mick Cronin. You heard it here first.

Just an FYI though that UCLA is 3-0 in the pac 12, UC Is 0-3 in the American and we haven’t even played Houston or Memphis.


I get saying.... let’s let this play out. Because literally that’s all we can do. They signed him for 6 frickin years, it should have been 4 but they signed him to 6 so no matter what we’re stuck with him for at least 2 more seasons before we can even afford a buy out,

But saying that you see something in the product on the court that gives you hope, to Me that’s just denial. The same problems that plagued us last season are still here only worse bc we don’t have jarron, Jaevin & Tre to save our ass.

Right the only hope we have is that coach does something completely different because I don’t see a fluid offense, or cohesive defense. I see at absolutel mess of a team, inside the locker room and on the court.

No one is saying it’s good or gives you hope. The only difference is, some people think he deserves a decent chance to succeed. People have said cronin got 1player a year. If brannen continues that pattern, it will obviously take time. The none brannen camp thinks the roster was stacked when he arrived. The other camp doesn’t think it was great. Jarron, awesome but hurt. Tre excelled under brannen and was great. Other than that, there wasn’t much. The players that left weren’t great. Obviously some are better than what we have but it’s not like a bunch of SKs or Kenyon’s left. Most of them went to mid major programs. Something that you guys love to bring up when trying to dismiss brannen. You can’t use the mid major thing to discredit the coach, then act like the roster was loaded when all of those players except brooks ended up at a mid majors.
 
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NET rankings released.

Uc coming in at 142

That’s worse then:
Houston
SMU
WSU
Tulsa
UCF
Memphis
ECU
USF


We are 10 spots better then temple and like 50 better then Tulane.

Who’d have ever thunk that beating UC on its home wouldn’t even be a Tier 2 win.
 
No one is saying it’s good or gives you hope. The only difference is, some people think he deserves a decent chance to succeed. People have said cronin got 1player a year. If brannen continues that pattern, it will obviously take time. The none brannen camp thinks the roster was stacked when he arrived. The other camp doesn’t think it was great. Jarron, awesome but hurt. Tre excelled under brannen and was great. Other than that, there wasn’t much. The players that left weren’t great. Obviously some are better than what we have but it’s not like a bunch of SKs or Kenyon’s left. Most of them went to mid major programs. Something that you guys love to bring up when trying to dismiss brannen. You can’t use the mid major thing to discredit the coach, then act like the roster was loaded when all of those players except brooks ended up at a mid majors.


In my opinion, there is a difference in mid major players.

Guys like eliel nsesome translate to any level because they rebound, defend & play hard.

Guys like Chris Vogt and Rap, don’t translate because they lack those effort and toughness skills while also lacking athletic ability.
 
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