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Okay! Whether Jacob moves on or not, tell me why he averaged only 13 ppg on a team that needed much more offense, needed someone to be the go to guy, and needed some outside presence? If he has NBA talent, why is that?

What is your point? we all wanted him to score more and be a go to guy. doesn't mean he isn't a nba talent. many guys average 20+ in college and can't do anything in the NBA. NBA is a different game. more athletic, open game. something he is suited for.
 
Okay! Whether Jacob moves on or not, tell me why he averaged only 13 ppg on a team that needed much more offense, needed someone to be the go to guy, and needed some outside presence? If he has NBA talent, why is that?

Jimmer and Adam morrison each average close to 30 and couldn't do anything in the nba. Completely different game
 
Okay! Whether Jacob moves on or not, tell me why he averaged only 13 ppg on a team that needed much more offense, needed someone to be the go to guy, and needed some outside presence? If he has NBA talent, why is that?
NBA scouts don't care about ppg.

My question is how many ppg would he need to average for you to think he's ready? 15? 18? 25?

We played at the 330th adjusted tempo this season at 64.5 possessions.

For perspective, Oklahoma was #4 at 75.5

If we played at that pace, he'd probably be in the 17-18 ppg, if we were average pace he'd probably be 15. We were super slow, so he's at his number.

His biggest things going for for him are:
1. Low maintenance
2. Solid wing defender
3. Good 3 point shooter 42% last year, 37 this year ( was over 40 most of the season)
4. Doesn't have to have the ball in his hands to be effective
5. Should fit a role, while also having some upside.
 
NBA scouts don't care about ppg.

My question is how many ppg would he need to average for you to think he's ready? 15? 18? 25?

We played at the 330th adjusted tempo this season at 64.5 possessions.

For perspective, Oklahoma was #4 at 75.5

If we played at that pace, he'd probably be in the 17-18 ppg, if we were average pace he'd probably be 15. We were super slow, so he's at his number.

His biggest things going for for him are:
1. Low maintenance
2. Solid wing defender
3. Good 3 point shooter 42% last year, 37 this year ( was over 40 most of the season)
4. Doesn't have to have the ball in his hands to be effective
5. Should fit a role, while also having some upside.

He’s also has good size and a great athlete. Those things alone will sometimes get you drafted.
 
Si, bleacherreport, ESPN, landof10, nbadraft

None of these sites project Jacob top 30... I'm not sure what teams are saying to him, but his first round hopes look poor to me....

Oh shit he should stay if bleacherreport and si and landof10 aren't projecting him!!!!!!
Dude knows what he's doing he's going late first bookmark it
 
Mike bohn mentioned that if Evans decides to stay, UC will purchase a 1 million dollar insurance policy for him
 
@MattNorlander
Tyus Battle
Jacob Evans
Jerome Robinson
Zhaire Smith
Omari Spellman
Jarred Vanderbilt

Why these six have the most intriguing stay-or-go decisions in this year’s draft:

https://t.co/99eoFfHPeF

Jacob Evans, Cincinnati
Cincinnati's 2018-19 season doesn't hinge on Evans' choice here, but the Bearcats would have legitimate Final Four hopes if he came back. We're talking about a team that went 31-5, was a No. 2 seed, finished fourth in KenPom and would have had a great shot at making it to San Antonio if not for an all-time, 22-point collapse against Nevada in the second round.

The Bearcats lose two key pieces (Gary Clark, Kyle Washington), which would make Evans the unquestionable star -- and probably the American Athletic Conference's preseason pick for player of the year -- if he returned. Evans (13.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.1 apg, 42.7 FG percentage) is going to get looks in the first round. If that guarantee money is there, it's going to be hard to get him to come back to college. From what I gather, Evans could be picked anywhere from 23rd to about 35th or 36th at this stage.

The workouts and interviews, for better or worse, will go a long way to determining his fate. There's a lot for him to consider.

"It's hard to tell," one source told CBS Sports about trying to pin down what Evans would do. "All kids want to go if they can. He's smart and not desperate. So it depends on the feed back from the NBA -- not agents. Does he get a Chicago invite? If so, how does he perform?"


A first-round guarantee could be the clincher. We've got the Bearcats ranked 25th as things stand now, without him in the mix.

Jerome Robinson, Boston College
The best player you haven't seen enough of. Robinson was a force last season, averaging 20.7 points, 3.6 rebounds, 3.3 assists and shooting 41 percent from 3-point range. He was a First Team All-ACC honoree. If he comes back for a senior campaign he could (should?) be the preseason ACC player of the year.

A few factors make Robinson's choice difficult. He's got a pro's body and a pro's skill set right now. But he's not projected as a top-20 pick. At his age, can he expect to be taken, say, at least seven spots higher come 2019? These nebulous, sliding-scale type of forecasts are what players sometimes weigh when evaluating their chances of being drafted. For Robinson, if it's between spot 28 and 32, maybe you take the guaranteed first round money, but all told it's not a huge difference. However, if you're around spot No. 35 this year but could bump up to 22 or 23 in a year? That's sizable.

"I think if he gets assurances from teams that he's a first round pick he stays," one source at Boston College told CBS Sports. "If not he comes back. But it's also hard for him. If he comes back next year and averages 18 points, shoots 47 percent from the floor, and 38 percent from 3, he 'regressed.'"


A good point, that. But if Boston College can go from a 19-win season to 23 or 24 next year then winning more games could in theory offset any reasonable regression to the mean.

Robinson isn't the only Boston College player who's choice is up in the air. His backcourt mate, Ky Bowman, is also testing the waters. And given his conditioning and athleticism, Bowman will probably test well. All told, no program has as much on the line in the next few weeks with multiple players weighing their pro potential like BC. With both players back, the Eagles should contend for the NCAAs. Without either, reaching the NIT would be a stretch.

Zhaire Smith, Texas Tech
The best athlete of any player listed here. One source said Smith could easily win over a team, get picked in the first round this year but probably wound wind up camping out in the G League for most of next season. I could easily see that. Smith has buzz about his ability, but if he's able to expand his game and create some offense for himself, then he's got a shot at the 2019 lottery.

The toss-up for Smith is if he'll ever be as highly regarded as he is now.

If he goes back to Texas Tech he should be the primary attraction on a Red Raiders team that would, potentially, again, be a top-three team in the Big 12. College basketball would absolutely be bettered by having Smith come back and chew on some rims.


Defensively, he's ready for the NBA. Athletically, there's no question. But he can't do enough with the ball in his hands at this point to warrant putting him on an NBA floor come November or December. Smith is caught in that zone where everything about him except the one thing that's most important -- providing consistent offense -- is NBA-ready. Will he acknowledge that, get in the gym, and return to Lubbock? Or will he take a chance on his God-given skills and try to adapt at the highest level and chase money now? It's hard to see him slipping out of the first round.

Omari Spellman, Villanova
When looking at each player's situation, it's important to remember that age can be a factor for some guys' decisions. If he goes, Spellman could be a case study on that. He's only played one year of college basketball, but his clock got set back a year unexpectedly. He'll be 21 come July.

Spellman was ruled academically ineligible for 2016-17, forcing him to redshirt. Now, that redshirt year might well have been the thing that allowed him to have one of the 10 best freshman campaigns in 2017-18. He cut weight, matured his game and his mind, and wound up as the second-most accurate 3-point shooter on the most destructive 3-point-shooting team in college basketball history.

A reminder that he's 6-8. His style very much suits the current NBA. And he's a good defender, too. Playing for a national champion also helps guys getting NBA looks even before the NCAA Tournament starts.

Spellman averaged 10.8 points, 8.0 rebounds and 1.5 blocks last season. He played 28 minutes per game and shot 43.3 percent on 150 attempts from 3 -- just a tick below Mikal Bridges' 43.5 clip (on a team-high 239 takes). He had a quality year but could be a menace next season at Villanova. With him back (and potentially Donte DiVincenzo as well; the Big Ragu is another player with a lot to mull over all of a sudden), Spellman would be viewed as one of the 20 best players in college basketball heading into the 2018-19 season.

Could he boost his stock further next year? I think so. On the other hand, is he destined to be a guy taken in the early second round, no matter the year? If that's the case, you could argue easily either way: return to college, dominate again, and live the glory for another 12 months. Or: go get the money now since your situation isn't probable to drastically improve.

Jarred Vanderbilt, Kentucky
To me, the second most interesting call of anyone out there. (Spellman being at the top of the list.) Vanderbilt played only 14 games last season because he missed the first 17 and last six due to injury. The former was due to a left foot issue, the latter because of an ankle injury.

Vanderbilt's very talented. He's got such a ceiling that he could turn into one of the 15 best players, I think, in college basketball next season. In limited time last season, Vanderbilt averaged 5.9 points and 7.9 rebounds in 17 minutes per game. Kentucky of course will bring in another loaded freshman class -- John Calipari might get guard Ashton Hagans to reclassify and play next year -- and there's a lot of frontcourt players trying to fit into shifting roles, but Vanderbilt's choice is fascinating.

Will his injuries be cause for enough red flags that he slips 10 spots or so in the draft? Is his limited game tape also going to hinder him? If so, does he return to Kentucky, hope to stay healthy for 30-plus games, and show how good he really is? If that happens, the lottery in 2019 could be on the table. Key to keep in mind that he would still be "sharing" minutes, potentially, with potential sophomore returnees P.J. Washington and Nick Richards, plus the addition of freshman forward E.J. Montgomery.

Of all the players listed here, Vanderbilt's is probably the toughest because he has the most mystery regarding his future at either level.

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@MattNorlander
Tyus Battle
Jacob Evans
Jerome Robinson
Zhaire Smith
Omari Spellman
Jarred Vanderbilt

Why these six have the most intriguing stay-or-go decisions in this year’s draft:

https://t.co/99eoFfHPeF

Jacob Evans, Cincinnati
Cincinnati's 2018-19 season doesn't hinge on Evans' choice here, but the Bearcats would have legitimate Final Four hopes if he came back. We're talking about a team that went 31-5, was a No. 2 seed, finished fourth in KenPom and would have had a great shot at making it to San Antonio if not for an all-time, 22-point collapse against Nevada in the second round.

The Bearcats lose two key pieces (Gary Clark, Kyle Washington), which would make Evans the unquestionable star -- and probably the American Athletic Conference's preseason pick for player of the year -- if he returned. Evans (13.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.1 apg, 42.7 FG percentage) is going to get looks in the first round. If that guarantee money is there, it's going to be hard to get him to come back to college. From what I gather, Evans could be picked anywhere from 23rd to about 35th or 36th at this stage.

The workouts and interviews, for better or worse, will go a long way to determining his fate. There's a lot for him to consider.

"It's hard to tell," one source told CBS Sports about trying to pin down what Evans would do. "All kids want to go if they can. He's smart and not desperate. So it depends on the feed back from the NBA -- not agents. Does he get a Chicago invite? If so, how does he perform?"


A first-round guarantee could be the clincher. We've got the Bearcats ranked 25th as things stand now, without him in the mix.
 
Jacob Evans, Cincinnati
Cincinnati's 2018-19 season doesn't hinge on Evans' choice here, but the Bearcats would have legitimate Final Four hopes if he came back. We're talking about a team that went 31-5, was a No. 2 seed, finished fourth in KenPom and would have had a great shot at making it to San Antonio if not for an all-time, 22-point collapse against Nevada in the second round.

The Bearcats lose two key pieces (Gary Clark, Kyle Washington), which would make Evans the unquestionable star -- and probably the American Athletic Conference's preseason pick for player of the year -- if he returned. Evans (13.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.1 apg, 42.7 FG percentage) is going to get looks in the first round. If that guarantee money is there, it's going to be hard to get him to come back to college. From what I gather, Evans could be picked anywhere from 23rd to about 35th or 36th at this stage.

The workouts and interviews, for better or worse, will go a long way to determining his fate. There's a lot for him to consider.

"It's hard to tell," one source told CBS Sports about trying to pin down what Evans would do. "All kids want to go if they can. He's smart and not desperate. So it depends on the feed back from the NBA -- not agents. Does he get a Chicago invite? If so, how does he perform?"


A first-round guarantee could be the clincher. We've got the Bearcats ranked 25th as things stand now, without him in the mix.

Going in the 30s wouldn't be the end of the world for Evans. Here are how this year's early 2nd round picks fared.

31. Frank Jackson (Pelicans) NBA minimum ($815k this year)
32. Davon Reed (Suns) NBA minimum
33. Wes Iwundu (Magic) $1.05 mil this year
34. Frank Mason (Kings) $1.18 mil this year
35. Ivan Rabb (Grizzlies) $950k this year
36. Jonah Bolden (76ers) stayed overseas
37. Semi Ojeleye (Celtics) 1.29 mil this year
38. Jordan Bell (Warriors) NBA minimum
39. Jawun Evans (Clippers) NBA minimum
 
Going in the 30s wouldn't be the end of the world for Evans. Here are how this year's early 2nd round picks fared.

31. Frank Jackson (Pelicans) NBA minimum ($815k this year)
32. Davon Reed (Suns) NBA minimum
33. Wes Iwundu (Magic) $1.05 mil this year
34. Frank Mason (Kings) $1.18 mil this year
35. Ivan Rabb (Grizzlies) $950k this year
36. Jonah Bolden (76ers) stayed overseas
37. Semi Ojeleye (Celtics) 1.29 mil this year
38. Jordan Bell (Warriors) NBA minimum
39. Jawun Evans (Clippers) NBA minimum

815 is not the minimum for first year players, was only 560. On average they are making 838k which is not bad at all. Question is does he want guaranteed millions though. If I was him, I go. But if he believes another year will make him look that much better, then stay.
 
The Ringer has Evans at #21

A classic 3-and-D prospect who shoots and defends well, though he’s not a jump-out-of-the-gym athlete.

SHADES OF: Wesley Matthews, Jae Crowder, Bogdan Bogdanovic

PLUSES
Spirited defender with the size and length to defend multiple positions.
Advanced off-ball defender; rotates well, communicates, and has good footwork on closeouts.
Makes winning plays with weakside blocks, deflections, and timely rebounds.
High-IQ passer who understands his limitations, moves the ball, and executes well.
Capable of using either hand to score at the rim with touch, though he’s a below-the-rim finisher.
Good spot-up shooter with NBA range.
Has made steady progress over his three collegiate seasons.

MINUSES
Average athlete who will need to prove he can defend the NBA’s elite, which he will be tasked with in his projected role.
Sluggish first step and high dribble limits his shot creation.
Low shooting release affects his ability to shoot off the dribble and when he’s tightly contested.
Lacks dynamic playmaking skill; he tends to pass the ball after he’s stopped his dribble rather than pass in rhythm on the move.
 
The Ringer has Evans at #21

A classic 3-and-D prospect who shoots and defends well, though he’s not a jump-out-of-the-gym athlete.

SHADES OF: Wesley Matthews, Jae Crowder, Bogdan Bogdanovic

PLUSES
Spirited defender with the size and length to defend multiple positions.
Advanced off-ball defender; rotates well, communicates, and has good footwork on closeouts.
Makes winning plays with weakside blocks, deflections, and timely rebounds.
High-IQ passer who understands his limitations, moves the ball, and executes well.
Capable of using either hand to score at the rim with touch, though he’s a below-the-rim finisher.
Good spot-up shooter with NBA range.
Has made steady progress over his three collegiate seasons.

MINUSES
Average athlete who will need to prove he can defend the NBA’s elite, which he will be tasked with in his projected role.
Sluggish first step and high dribble limits his shot creation.
Low shooting release affects his ability to shoot off the dribble and when he’s tightly contested.
Lacks dynamic playmaking skill; he tends to pass the ball after he’s stopped his dribble rather than pass in rhythm on the move.

He's going to start for a playoff team in the next 5 years. That's my hope anyway.
 
The Ringer has Evans at #21

A classic 3-and-D prospect who shoots and defends well, though he’s not a jump-out-of-the-gym athlete.

SHADES OF: Wesley Matthews, Jae Crowder, Bogdan Bogdanovic

PLUSES
Spirited defender with the size and length to defend multiple positions.
Advanced off-ball defender; rotates well, communicates, and has good footwork on closeouts.
Makes winning plays with weakside blocks, deflections, and timely rebounds.
High-IQ passer who understands his limitations, moves the ball, and executes well.
Capable of using either hand to score at the rim with touch, though he’s a below-the-rim finisher.
Good spot-up shooter with NBA range.
Has made steady progress over his three collegiate seasons.

MINUSES
Average athlete who will need to prove he can defend the NBA’s elite, which he will be tasked with in his projected role.
Sluggish first step and high dribble limits his shot creation.
Low shooting release affects his ability to shoot off the dribble and when he’s tightly contested.
Lacks dynamic playmaking skill; he tends to pass the ball after he’s stopped his dribble rather than pass in rhythm on the move.

This is a very honest assessment although I question the "average athlete" part. I know the NBA is elite with talent but a 40+ vertical is pretty good. With his excellent D I would think he would qualify as a pretty good athlete...probably better than average.
 
This is a very honest assessment although I question the "average athlete" part. I know the NBA is elite with talent but a 40+ vertical is pretty good. With his excellent D I would think he would qualify as a pretty good athlete...probably better than average.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. He routinely made plays here where it looked like he was playing with 8th graders. If that's the knock on him, he'll do just fine. He won't be asked to put it on the floor and weave through a crowded paint area in the halfcourt in the NBA.
 
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