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[justinhub2003]

I thought Jenifer did a hell of a job protecting the ball in the last 5 minutes

 

[justinhub2003]

I have zero complaints about how Jenifer and Broome were used yesterday. I don’t think you could have used them any better and we won by double digits.

I thought if anything; yesterday’s game helped solidify some roles for each PG. both did their job when call on.,

 

[UCalum08]

I thought Jenifer did a hell of a job protecting the ball in the last 5 minutes

Gotta give credit when credit is due. He did play really well down the stretch. He handled the pressure really well and made his free throws.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I thought Jenifer did a hell of a job protecting the ball in the last 5 minutes

Me to!

I know most want to point to Mick's use of Cane and JJ as a huge issue. For me it is not a problem at all. Not saying I wouldn't want better PG play from either but I have bigger issues. A few keys for me that will determine the course of our season are

1. Can we get consistent production on offense and defense from from Washington. Yesterday has not been the norm.

2.can we get Cumberland untracked. Yesterday was a tiny step.

3. If Evans is going to be our end of game option then he has to take better care of the ball. Way to many turn overs.

If we get these three things done we have a chance to have the kind of season we all want. Yesterday was a small step in that direction. Need to get taking those steps.

 

[waterhead]

I have zero complaints about how Jenifer and Broome were used yesterday. I don’t think you could have used them any better and we won by double digits.

I thought if anything; yesterday’s game helped solidify some roles for each PG. both did their job when call on.,

I thought Jenifer did a great job down the stretch but his first 5 minutes were pretty bad. He got beat bad a couple times and was shot over the top of pretty easily. That fake charge move he does I'm also not a fan of. If it doesn't get called he's toast.

Still need to start Cane. Jenifer is better at holding a lead.

 

[cincrulz11]

Still need to start Cane. Jenifer is better at holding a lead.

How do you get here? Cane was mistake free too when they started pressing. Evans was the one that had the awful turnover.


Jenifer can come in if he’s gonna keep hitting free throws, but the move was benching Cumberland not Broome. Cumberland can’t be out there being a career 60% ft shooter.


But I still don’t see why cane needed to come out. It did almost feel like mick just had to even their minutes out (similar to how he benched Jenifer the other night basically the entire half for no reason)

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

How do you get here? Cane was mistake free too when they started pressing. Evans was the one that had the awful turnover.


Jenifer can come in if he’s gonna keep hitting free throws, but the move was benching Cumberland not Broome. Cumberland can’t be out there being a career 60% ft shooter.


But I still don’t see why cane needed to come out. It did almost feel like mick just had to even their minutes out (similar to how he benched Jenifer the other night basically the entire half for no reason)

Getting everyone minutes in areas they can contribute is part of the job. I think Mick has done a very good job at this.

Our two losses have nothing to do with who started at PG. we were hammered on the glass and didn't guard against X nad turned the ball over 21 times against the then 5 team in the country.

 

[cincrulz11]

Also I sorta think Broome is a must have on the court when closing a tight game since we try to stall it out the last 10 minutes. He’s our best option at beating his man late in the shot clock. If the refs would have called those 2 times he was fouled we would have taken 33 seconds off the clock twice and gotten 4 fts out of it.


If we have 5 capable scorers out there for our stall ball I like our chances of closing it out.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Also I sorta think Broome is a must have on the court when closing a tight game since we try to stall it out the last 10 minutes. He’s our best option at beating his man late in the shot clock. If the refs would have called those 2 times he was fouled we would have taken 33 seconds off the clock twice and gotten 4 fts out of it.


If we have 5 capable scorers out there for our stall ball I like our chances of closing it out.

Depending what the score is I can agree with that. But leading by 13-15 points as we were we didn't need offense. They were in foul mode we needed to run clock and hit FT's. In a closer game I'll guess and say if offense is needed you will see Cane out there. As for Cumberland I can't believe he is a 60% FT shooter. As I mentioned above he is a key to our season going forward.

Game situation and player strengths is the key to who is on the floor.

 

[cincrulz11]

Depending what the score is I can agree with that. But leading by 13-15 points as we were we didn't need offense. They were in foul mode we needed to run clock and hit FT's. In a closer game I'll guess and say if offense is needed you will see Cane out there. As for Cumberland I can't believe he is a 60% FT shooter. As I mentioned above he is a key to our season going forward.

Right foul mode so we needed our ft shooters. Jenifer cane Evans Gary and Kyle.


And I agree he went with Jenifer cause of how big the lead was. But if there was ever a time for Broome at the wing, that was it. 2 primary ball handlers.

 

[justinhub2003]

Also, there is serious value is there not being a ton of tape on Cane broome within this offense once we get into conference play.


Its probably a great thing that Cane hasn't shown everything he can do. You can't take something away if you don't know it exists.


Im downloading and putting the full game together now from Synergy and am going to re-watch it.

 

[cincrulz11]

Also, there is serious value is there not being a ton of tape on Cane broome within this offense once we get into conference play.


Its probably a great thing that Cane hasn't shown everything he can do. You can't take something away if you don't know it exists.


Im downloading and putting the full game together now from Synergy and am going to re-watch it.

dont let him go left. but its easier said than done. i dont think you need a lot of tape for that.


that first step he has is a killer.

 

[waterhead]

How do you get here? Cane was mistake free too when they started pressing. Evans was the one that had the awful turnover.


Jenifer can come in if he’s gonna keep hitting free throws, but the move was benching Cumberland not Broome. Cumberland can’t be out there being a career 60% ft shooter.


But I still don’t see why cane needed to come out. It did almost feel like mick just had to even their minutes out (similar to how he benched Jenifer the other night basically the entire half for no reason)

I'm not saying Cane needed to come out. I am saying Jenifer is better at nursing a lead than he is starting a game when we could use scoring.

But beyond that I would not put Cane on point nursing a lead. Jenifer is much more solid with the ball and makes crisp passes. I may be fine with Cane being in for Cumberland with 2 minutes left if we're getting fouled.

 

[cincrulz11]

But beyond that I would not put Cane on point nursing a lead.

i dont really think there is anything to back that up.


he's good enough to get the team a lead but not good enough to keep it? that seems sorta silly to me.



we need to get over thinking broome is turnover prone, he's proven through the last 4 that he isn't.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

i dont really think there is anything to back that up.


he's good enough to get the team a lead but not good enough to keep it? that seems sorta silly to me.



we need to get over thinking broome is turnover prone, he's proven through the last 4 that he isn't.

He needs to prove it to his coach who also sees him everyday in practice.

 

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Right foul mode so we needed our ft shooters. Jenifer cane Evans Gary and Kyle.


And I agree he went with Jenifer cause of how big the lead was. But if there was ever a time for Broome at the wing, that was it. 2 primary ball handlers.

Sitting Cumberland in that spot was not a bad thought but historically he isn't a bad foul shooter. I hope he turns it around. We need him to be a better player then he was last year especially by years end. I actually think if he was playing better Cane may be getting more minuets as the PG. Williams is coming on a bit but if I need minutes in a close game at the wing I prefer it be Cane.

 

[justinhub2003]

i dont really think there is anything to back that up.


he's good enough to get the team a lead but not good enough to keep it? that seems sorta silly to me.



we need to get over thinking broome is turnover prone, he's proven through the last 4 that he isn't.

He will earn that trust back with Cronin.

But I have no idea why anyone is complaining. Mick made the change for jenifer and we held onto the lead, Jenifer made his free throws and didn't commit a single TO.

So yes, Cane has proved he has gotten better at protecting the ball, he still is No where near as good as jenifer is at it. Jenifer has 2 TO the last 4 games and Cane has 7.


I don't understand why we complaining about strategy when our team just went into Pauley Pavilllion and kicked ass. Cane and Justin did their jobs. Mick made the right subs all game IMO..

 

[cincrulz11]

He need some to prove it to his coach who also sees him everyday in practice.

mick has been holding him and kyle to a different standard than the rest of the team, thats clear when watching.


but mick has always played favorites with certain guys. the 2014 ge'lawn guyn season stands out specifically.

 

[cincrulz11]

Sitting Cumberland in that spot was not a bad thought but historically he isn't a bad foul shooter. I hope he turns it around. We need him to be a better player then he was last year especially by years end. I actually think if he was playing better Cane may be getting more minuets as the PG. Williams is coming on a bit but if I need minutes in a close game at the wing I prefer it be Cane.

yeah he is a bad one historically. 64% last season, 51% this season, 60% career.



no other way to slice it, cumberland is just a bad FT shooter. he shouldn't be, i don't believe he was in high school, but he has been very bad in college.

 

[cincrulz11]

He will earn that trust back with Cronin.

But I have no idea why anyone is complaining. Mick made the change for jenifer and we held onto the lead, Jenifer made his free throws and didn't commit a single TO.

So yes, Cane has proved he has gotten better at protecting the ball, he still is No where near as good as jenifer is at it. Jenifer has 2 TO the last 4 games and Cane has 7.


I don't understand why we complaining about strategy when our team just went into Pauley Pavilllion and kicked ass. Cane and Justin did their jobs. Mick made the right subs all game IMO..

why do you think stating things is complaining? also i didn't say it was bad to bring jenifer in, i said cumberland is probably the guy to pull in that scenario.