I get what you are saying but I disagree. Each member of the team has a job to do. The coaches job includes dealing with the refs and ensuring his team gets a fair shake. This will at times result in some confrontations. It’s not ok for players cause that is not their job.
Do you think acting the way he acted is going to get them a fair shake? Did it make the refs better?
Do you think Mick calling for them to be suspended, and for their pay to be taken away will make them more likely to be "fair" to us in the future?
There's fighting for your team and then there is doing what Mick did last night. Mick crossed the line.
Are you saying officials hold grudges and make calls accordingly? Then they should be fired.
Please. Mick didn't cross any imaginary line. The officiating in conference has been piss poor and the league office needed to be called out. It won't have any negative or positive effect down the stretch this conference season. Hopefully the AAC steps up next year.
*whispers* they don't
honest question -- do you guys only watch Bearcat games? Other leagues have a LOT better officiating. The AAC is trotting out high school refs.
Are you saying officials hold grudges and make calls accordingly? Then they should be fired.
I would say the best refs are hard to influence but the worst of them can be. That can be positive or negative influence. We hear about make up calls all the time during games. I imagine how a coach treats refs post game could have similar effects. A good ref will call the game as neutral as possible just like a good judge will hear a case. Biases can/will affect many/most of them to different degrees whether it's consciously done or not.
I think it would be a bit naive to think they can all be completely unbiased and 100% neutral.
I didn't hear Mick say that in his post-game. He said they weren't any good and in this scenario were acting like "tough guys." The Tulsa call was inexcusable.
In the course of a game you can absolutely work a crew in your favor. Mick might be the best in the league at it. Kevin Ollie was the worst I've ever seen at it. A bit subjective, sure. But this idea a crew is going to make a concerted effort to slight a team, player, coach over the course of a season is ridiculous. Cronin isn't suggesting that either. Cronin is simply saying they suck at their job and are not good enough for this level of basketball. I have to agree with him.
so saying if Cumberland was wearing a Duke jersey he'd get to the FT line more wasn't saying they don't call fouls cause he plays for cincinnati?
we can admit there is a difference in they suck (which they do) and they personally attack UC basketball (which is what mick is claiming)
so saying if Cumberland was wearing a Duke jersey he'd get to the FT line more wasn't saying they don't call fouls cause he plays for cincinnati?
We can all agree many refs suck and we get some bad crews but that is not the point at all. I am also not saying Cronin was saying we will get biased calls in the future because of his post game comments. I am saying that it is my own opinion that certain refs can develop a bias (however slight) and once you have that you have a recipe for less favorable calls or more favorable calls. It doesn't even have to be a conscious bias to have affects.
Ok, so your point is ref's can be unconsciously bias [against a team/coach/player] so calling them out is a dumb idea? That's a stretch. Plus even if I accept that to be true you can't know or predict if the bias would be favorable or unfavorable. Maybe calling them out will make them think twice about a quick technical for a coach or maybe a more explicit warning before the quick hook. Mick Cronin isn't going anywhere. Joe blow referee might not get a contract next season.
Ok, so your point is ref's can be unconsciously bias [against a team/coach/player] so calling them out is a dumb idea? That's a stretch. Plus even if I accept that to be true you can't know or predict if the bias would be favorable or unfavorable. Maybe calling them out will make them think twice about a quick technical for a coach or maybe a more explicit warning before the quick hook. Mick Cronin isn't going anywhere. Joe blow referee might not get a contract next season.
pretty sure he did no such thing. he certainly didn't say that on the radio, and it looks like uc cut off his post-game comments before he talked about the refs. maybe one of the media outlets has the full presser.
no, that's not so much lamenting calls that only we don't get as it is noting that the blue bloods, with coaches like coach k, do get them. those leagues also don't have the dogshit officials we have, and that's part of it too.
cronin specifically made the coach k reference in talking about the double standard for why he was assessed the first t.
it's hard to believe that our coach gets hosed, our team gets screwed, and then the coach actually comes out in the post game and appropriately calls out the bs - and there are people who are complaining about that.
and there are people mad that he'd even get a technical in the first place (ignoring that it was bs).
good grief. go back to the land of make believe where there is no stress and no concept of competitive spirit.