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We are 10 out of 31 games into the season. So what have we learned about this group? What has improved over these first 10 games? What is the best rotation? What has to happen for us to compete for a congference title and NCAA tournament appearance?
 
Caupain, Cobb, Shaq, Clark and Ellis. Wish Moore would defend and rebound the team could use him offensively.
 
Caupain, Cobb, Shaq, Clark and Ellis. Wish Moore would defend and rebound the team could use him offensively.

Who cares at this point if Moore can't rebound or defend? The other guys can't score so it cancels out. I think Moore has a better chance of learning how to at least rebound than the other guys have of learning how to score.
 
All offseason it was the talk of 7 new guys blah blah blah...and that's fine. I get that. But 10 games in, is that still what we're going to go with? Can anyone out there act like they expected things to be THIS bad? I'm trying to find ONE area where this team has improved so far. Including the Bahamas, we've now played 535 minutes on the court together. Anyone got anything? I'm running out of excuses and fake optimism about this offense. I also don't get what Larry Davis does. He has been with Mick every step of the way...through terrible offense after terrible offense. Then when he gets a chance to head coach 1 game he can't make a simple defensive switch. So what good is he?
 
All offseason it was the talk of 7 new guys blah blah blah...and that's fine. I get that. But 10 games in, is that still what we're going to go with? Can anyone out there act like they expected things to be THIS bad? I'm trying to find ONE area where this team has improved so far. Including the Bahamas, we've now played 535 minutes on the court together. Anyone got anything? I'm running out of excuses and fake optimism about this offense. I also don't get what Larry Davis does. He has been with Mick every step of the way...through terrible offense after terrible offense. Then when he gets a chance to head coach 1 game he can't make a simple defensive switch. So what good is he?

Just to name one thing, Gary Clark would not be a bearcat without him.
 
Caupain, Cobb, Shaq, Clark and Ellis. Wish Moore would defend and rebound the team could use him offensively.

Yeah, Moore and Clark both have so much potential. Clark is really balanced and I think he will be a more consistent contributor. I wouldn't be surprised to see Quadri come on towards the end of the year, once he learns how to play better defense. So far, I would say KJ and Morman have been the most disappointing. I knew they would definitely not come close to SK numbers, but I was hoping they could be a solid guard combo. We need them to start playing better to complement Caupain/Cobb.
 
After Wednesday: UC can play with anyone,
After today: meltdown mode. Team lost, looking lackluster after they find out their coach has an aneurysm 90 minutes before the game.
 
After Wednesday: UC can play with anyone,
After today: meltdown mode. Team lost, looking lackluster after they find out their coach has an aneurysm 90 minutes before the game.

They CAN play with anyone when everything is going exactly right. But we've really had things go right in about 3 of 10 games so far.
 
Yeah, Moore and Clark both have so much potential. Clark is really balanced and I think he will be a more consistent contributor. I wouldn't be surprised to see Quadri come on towards the end of the year, once he learns how to play better defense. So far, I would say KJ and Morman have been the most disappointing. I knew they would definitely not come close to SK numbers, but I was hoping they could be a solid guard combo. We need them to start playing better to complement Caupain/Cobb.

I would have to really agree with this. Especially with your disappointment with KJ and Morman. Morman is a complete ball hog and has NO just cause for it. His actions in the 2nd half disgusted me. How he pouted and slammed the ball on the floor bc he couldn't inbound. Its one thing to be ticked at your teammates for not moving and getting open but you don't act like that in front of 10k people.
I've always been high on KJ and have given him the benefit of doubt but after today, wow. He has been a walking turnover machine. He is super weak with the ball and makes poor choices on offense. He was better his freshman year than now. Maybe we are expecting him to do too much.

I thing I have learned as well is our offense is no better than what it was from game 1. Today was one of the worst performances I've seen in a while. It was all individually based and had zero flow, zero organization, and zero purpose.

I never understood how a team that displayed so much mental toughness days ago could show up so flat and uninspired. UC's body language was disgusting all day. Did anyone notice them coming out for warm ups before the 2nd half. They looked lazy and uninterested and had no purpose.

Another thing I learned was I guess its just because we are so young and have no real leaders but I expect more highs and lows this season. I think this team needs a complete attitude adjustment.
 
All offseason it was the talk of 7 new guys blah blah blah...and that's fine. I get that. But 10 games in, is that still what we're going to go with? Can anyone out there act like they expected things to be THIS bad? I'm trying to find ONE area where this team has improved so far. Including the Bahamas, we've now played 535 minutes on the court together. Anyone got anything? I'm running out of excuses and fake optimism about this offense. I also don't get what Larry Davis does. He has been with Mick every step of the way...through terrible offense after terrible offense. Then when he gets a chance to head coach 1 game he can't make a simple defensive switch. So what good is he?

Wednesday: UC puts us 72 points against SDSU. More points than this ranked team and that ranked team

Today: We have a terrible offense

UC switched to man in the second half and they shot at just as high as a clip as they did in the first half. They just couldn't match VCU's team quickness as a team and they got confidence after hitting a few shots, and it wasn't just one guy, everyone was making everything and nothing fell for UC.
 
Wednesday: UC puts us 72 points against SDSU. More points than this ranked team and that ranked team

Today: We have a terrible offense

UC switched to man in the second half and they shot at just as high as a clip as they did in the first half. They just couldn't match VCU's team quickness as a team and they got confidence after hitting a few shots, and it wasn't just one guy, everyone was making everything and nothing fell for UC.

2nd half shooting didn't matter imo. The game was already way over and we were down by double digits the whole time. As more games pass, we're continuing to see a dusturbing pattern. It was easier to live with it at the beginning bc we would still win, but we are seeing the team that can't score waaay too often.
 
Wednesday: UC puts us 72 points against SDSU. More points than this ranked team and that ranked team

Today: We have a terrible offense

UC switched to man in the second half and they shot at just as high as a clip as they did in the first half. They just couldn't match VCU's team quickness as a team and they got confidence after hitting a few shots, and it wasn't just one guy, everyone was making everything and nothing fell for UC.

Wednesday, UC put up 57 points against SDSU, and then another 15 in OT.
 
They CAN play with anyone when everything is going exactly right. But we've really had things go right in about 3 of 10 games so far.

That is college BBall for you. College teams are inconsistent, outside of the elite teams with multiple NBA players. Hell even UK has had teams with inconsistent players. They missed the tourney completely a couple of years ago in a terrible conference! UCLA scored 7 points in the first half today against UK. I bet UCLA fans think the program is falling apart.

This team is struggling scoring right now. I didn't expect them to have it figured out in ten games because that is unrealistic. Our upperclassmen have been major disappointments this year. They still haven't lost a game that they easily should have won.
 
That is college BBall for you. College teams are inconsistent, outside of the elite teams with multiple NBA players. Hell even UK has had teams with inconsistent players. They missed the tourney completely a couple of years ago in a terrible conference! UCLA scored 7 points in the first half today against UK. I bet UCLA fans think the program is falling apart.

This team is struggling scoring right now. I didn't expect them to have it figured out in ten games because that is unrealistic. Our upperclassmen have been major disappointments this year. They still haven't lost a game that they easily should have won.

Nebraska?
 
All offseason it was the talk of 7 new guys blah blah blah...and that's fine. I get that. But 10 games in, is that still what we're going to go with? Can anyone out there act like they expected things to be THIS bad? I'm trying to find ONE area where this team has improved so far. Including the Bahamas, we've now played 535 minutes on the court together. Anyone got anything? I'm running out of excuses and fake optimism about this offense. I also don't get what Larry Davis does. He has been with Mick every step of the way...through terrible offense after terrible offense. Then when he gets a chance to head coach 1 game he can't make a simple defensive switch. So what good is he?

Maybe he's got dirt on Mick?
 
Right now this team has zero confidence on the offensive end. I have seen these guys make shots before, but now some can't even hit the rim on an outside shot, and that is not an exaggeration. I think they are pressing far too much, and that has led to some real ugliness, I am talking about two of our guards who drove into traffic on breaks instead of passing to wide open teammates. Why, perhaps they have no confidence in the player they are about to pass to? Quadri passed up a WIDE OPEN 10 footer early in the game, a shot somebody like him should make in his sleep, why was that?

The team is pressing terribly, they hear the comments not just from the fans but nationally as well. They lack confidence and play scared on offense. This is the point where your senior leaders really have to step in and set everybody straight, but that is not happening. Guyn is hurt, Sanders does not have that personality, and Shaq can't inspire anybody if he can't make a shot himself. But Shaq has at least tried to be more aggressive the past few games

There is still time to right the ship, but right now I would gladly take a first round tournament exit. Next year will be much better, but there is probably more suffering to go before we get there.
 
Nebraska?

Nebraska? Nebraska is a veteran team that was a pre-season top 25 team. Petteway will play in the NBA and Shields and Pitchford are and have been solid for a while. It was the first road game for 7 guys in a sold out 15k seat arena. If you thought UC was going to run them out of the gym then maybe We can start betting money against each other on UC games.....
 
Nebraska? Nebraska is a veteran team that was a pre-season top 25 team. Petteway will play in the NBA and Shields and Pitchford are and have been solid for a while. It was the first road game for 7 guys in a sold out 15k seat arena. If you thought UC was going to run them out of the gym then maybe We can start betting money against each other on UC games.....

Pitchford? Are you kidding? Cincinnati isn't expected to beat Nebraska basketball bc of Walter Pitchford? Sheesh. That sounds pretty pathetic. We should NEVER lose to Nebraska in basketball. I don't care how many people it is in front of or what they were ranked in the preseason. We should win that game by double digits bc we are Cincinnati. Period. Raise your expectations a little.
 
Pitchford? Are you kidding? Cincinnati isn't expected to beat Nebraska basketball bc of Walter Pitchford? Sheesh. That sounds pretty pathetic. We should NEVER lose to Nebraska in basketball. I don't care how many people it is in front of or what they were ranked in the preseason. We should win that game by double digits bc we are Cincinnati. Period. Raise your expectations a little.

I couldn't agree more. Pitchford seriously. A team called INCARNATE WORD beat Nebraska at their gym. And CATS fans are suppose to respect them and be intimidated by them. Hell their not even that good in football anymore and now their kicking our ass in Hoops. That right theres a huge sign of whats happened and happening. I'm done with it. And dont call me fareweather because theres not one CATS fan NOT 1 who like what they see in BB IQ, talent, coaching, offensively. NOT 1.
 
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