Wichita State

[BearcatDave]

This years team is very, very good until they play a top 30 team, and they are quickly running out of opportunities to change that.

 

[TheLongHaul]

I do. We got back into the game with Broome playing. We got pushed back to 9 right after half , and jenifer was liable for 5 of those first 7 second half points. That is coaching. Instead of riding the momentum of your backup pint guard, mick goes back with ineffective Jenifer. That alone cost us at worst 7 points. Put cane in, and guess who pulls us back into contention? Can't say that isn't on the coach.

Exactly. His substitution patterns are mind boggling. Why is he so freaking set on starting the same players every game and every half? Jennifer provides nothing. And like I said earlier, they had a 3 point lead and then he put in a lineup of Jennifer, Brooks, Williams, Clark, and Scott. WSU went on a 11-0 run after that. That is absolutely on the coach. Washington starts off the game very strong and then Mick benches him. No other coach in the country takes their own players out of rhythm better than Mick.

 

[Bcatfollower]

I do. We got back into the game with Broome playing. We got pushed back to 9 right after half , and jenifer was liable for 5 of those first 7 second half points. That is coaching. Instead of riding the momentum of your backup pint guard, mick goes back with ineffective Jenifer. That alone cost us at worst 7 points. Put cane in, and guess who pulls us back into contention? Can't say that isn't on the coach.

The ridiculous thing is 90% of people can see jennifer shouldn't play much except the guy who makes 2mill a year who should be an expert.

 

[TheLongHaul]

I had a feeling the game was destined to be a loss when they call that foul on Cumberland on his drive to the basket. It should’ve been an & one. At that point it seemed like they were doomed

That was a god awful call. All refs were awful tonight, not just TV Teddy.

 

[cincyguy13]

North Carolina vs Wofford 79-75
Virgina vs Virginia Tech 61-60
Clemson vs Duke 66-57
Villanova vs St Johns 79-75

The list goes on and on. This isn't the NBA. These are student athletes... well at least they should be. God bless you if you expected perfection for the rest of forever. These are kids/young adults, and they won't be perfect and there is bound to be failures along the way. If your perception of the team magically changed over the last two extremely close games, then tell me what they can do better. This is the same team that was embarrassed at Xavier and against Florida. They're still a second weekend team in my opinion. Clark, Washington, and Evans need to show up in big games, and Broone should always play more than Jennifer, and at this point obviously start. The hole they're digging themselves at the beginning of big games has finally started to bite them in the rear end.

Honestly, what evidence is there that this a second weekend team?

 

[cincycpaw]

I don’t look so much of this game as being Cronins fault. Houston 100%. I just think it’s simple, We aren’t as good as we thought we were. We are extremly soft as well.

Yeah and that can’t be the coach’s fault at all.

Look mick has down well. His recruiting is improved. But tonight loss is all on him. He was awful. It happens. I hope it doesn’t happen again.

 

[Bcatfollower]

anyone hear postgame?

 

[cincyguy13]

anyone hear postgame?

yeah, nothing groundbreaking. mick said defense wasn't good enough. went on about deflections. also said we are we aren't good enough shooters to be able to score with them without getting offensive rebounds. which seems like a problem but is honest i guess

 

[UC86]

Anyone else think Gary was pretty blantantly fouled on that tip back at the end?

I originally thought that was what they called. His jersey was clearly being pulled.

 

[Quadri's #1 fan]

Honestly, what evidence is there that this a second weekend team?

They have good players that can play well together. As long as Broone starts playing more then they are a second weekend team. You have to win 2 games to make it to the sweet sixteen. Outside of this week everyone would laugh at the idea that this team with all the talent they have can't make it to the sweet sixteen. Well I liked the bearcats before this week, and they still played good enough to be in both games. It's almost like everyone gave up on Gary Clark, and Kyle Washington's senior years already....I apologize for not having done that yet.

 

[Bcatfollower]

yeah, nothing groundbreaking. mick said defense wasn't good enough. went on about deflections. also said we are we aren't good enough shooters to be able to score with them without getting offensive rebounds. which seems like a problem but is honest i guess

Thanks for the synopsis. Ill never understand his pholosophy on offense or lack of offensively skilled recruits.

 

[cincyguy13]

They have good players that can play well together. As long as Broone starts playing more then they are a second weekend team. You have to win 2 games to make it to the sweet sixteen. Outside of this week everyone would laugh at the idea that this team with all the talent they have can't make it to the sweet sixteen. Well I liked the bearcats before this week, and they still played good enough to be in both games. It's almost like everyone gave up on Gary Clark, and Kyle Washington's senior years already....I apologize for not having done that yet.

don't have to apologize. was honestly wondering. the problem is other teams in the tournament will have good players also, that also play well together. In many cases better than our players. I am not giving up on the season, but it is looking less and less likely with every good team we play, that we will accomplish the things people thought this team could

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Teams with pretty offense always bear us.

Houston has pretty offense?

 

[Jon Rycek]

Rough game, really thought this one we would win. Gonna hurt our seeding for sure, and @ Wichita is looking like a must win now. That being say we are still very good, we still have a great chance to make a run in this tourney. I can't even be on Facebook right now, Cincinnati fans really are a joke sometimes. Acting like we aren't even gonna win in the first round now, it really is pathetic and sad that is what our fan base is.

 

[Quadri's #1 fan]

don't have to apologize. was honestly wondering. the problem is other teams in the tournament will have good players also, that also play well together. In many cases better than our players. I am not giving up on the season, but it is looking less and less likely with every good team we play, that we will accomplish the things people thought this team could

Yeah, I understand. I thought we'd win at Houston, and we'd lose to Wichita State. We lost both. I legitimately think Wichita State can go to the Final Four. Greg Marshall will have his veteran team prepared in March. I'm just hoping Cronin can do the same. I'm sure you and I would both hate if Gary Clark ended up never getting to the second weekend. I'll stay optimistic. We just need to make sure we win against UCONN, Tulsa, and Tulane. If that happens it's a free for all until the season end. Once the tournament starts we need every American team to do well. The perception of the conference is rising, and it would be nice if we have it continue rising.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Houston has pretty offense?

They're ok. I wasn't really talking about them though.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Aint dropping 15 spots think we fall to 12-13

Seth has UC at 18

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Williams is better than Moore. Not sure when exactly that flipped, but it did. I think Williams will be better from here on out too. For the time being, he needs basically all those minutes backing up Evans and Cumberland. He can do more things. And if Moore is nowhere close from 3, gotta go Williams.

Agreed, to me Moore is falling directly into the Kevin Johnson role. Hard nosed on D and makes 1 out of 4 threes

 

[Patrick Bateman]

They not only out finessed us with great shooting.


They out worked us on the glass too.

They wanted it more.

Again, I’m usually an optimist but I’ll be surprised if we are even a 2nd week team . I chalked Houston up up to just a bad game but this was more of the same.

Maybe I’ll feel different in the next few days

I am too on the bus that thinks sweet 16 is ceiling, along with at best a 4 seed, prolly a 5-6

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Yep...Cronin has maxed out just like Marvin. Kyle started off the game with a few baskets in a row and then Cronin took him out for no reason. Was up 3 then he subbed out all his starters minus Jennifer and WSU went on an 11-0 run. Defense was doing great and then he puts in Scott at the end and gives up the home run pass. Nobody gets in their own way as much as Cronin does.

Not ONE homerun pass, but TWO. That is little league