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cincyguy13 said:
He’s doing this with a hurt Jarron too. From what I’m told. Imagine how he would do with a fully heathy Jarron all year. 1 seed? Maybe
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wasn't one of the things talked about when looking for a new coach is we might lose more games vs bad opponents but the hope was we'd do better vs better opponents?



i dont think anybody is saying see i told you. or omg we're so awesome. or john brannen is a hall of famer.


i was just pointing out how ridiculous somebody has been all year. brannen has ups and downs with the team. there are some things i hope he improves on as the years go. if there are specific things still happening 10 years from now, better believe im gonna talk about it and want better.


if before we started this season you told me jarron would be hurt and really struggle in a handful of games but we'd still be fighting for a tournament spot and be tied for 1st in the league with a few games left, i'd take that. i think everybody would take that.
 
cincyguy13 said:
Hard to debate we wouldn’t be a lot better with a heathy Jarron. That’s common sense.,
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hard to debate with somebody that doesn't want to be rational in any way and intentionally distorts arguments and statistics to "prove" his point.
 
cincrulz11 said:
wasn't one of the things talked about when looking for a new coach is we might lose more games vs bad opponents but the hope was we'd do better vs better opponents?



i dont think anybody is saying see i told you. or omg we're so awesome. or john brannen is a hall of famer.


i was just pointing out how ridiculous somebody has been all year. brannen has ups and downs with the team. there are some things i hope he improves on as the years go. if there are specific things still happening 10 years from now, better believe im gonna talk about it and want better.


if before we started this season you told me jarron would be hurt and really struggle in a handful of games but we'd still be fighting for a tournament spot and be tied for 1st in the league with a few games left, i'd take that. i think everybody would take that.
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In all honesty, if Jarron has been hurt all year, that gives brannen a little leeway. Jarron was one of the best 20 players in America before this year, on a team and in a league that doesn’t have many of those guys. Has brannen been perfect or even good? Of course not but you have to think if Jarron was heathy we would have won a couple of those games. That’s not a stretch. If we are sitting at 21-6, it’s a totally different conversation.
 
Fairy certain that UC should be able to beat Colgate, Bowling green and UCF without a healthy Jarron.

Jarron himself said he was healthy for UCF.

Brannen benched him and let him get stiff against bowling green.

We got destroyed defensively by Colgate in the 2nd half



Those are 3 losses that hurt us the most. I’m not even mad about Tulane. That was a true road game and shit happens.


I mean, next year Is going to even rougher in my opinion. So yea, before we take a year or two break from the tourney, I’d like to see us make it this year.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Fairy certain that UC should be able to beat Colgate, Bowling green and UCF without a healthy Jarron.

Jarron himself said he was healthy for UCF.

Brannen benched him and let him get stiff against bowling green.

We got destroyed defensively by Colgate in the 2nd half



Those are 3 losses that hurt us the most. I’m not even mad about Tulane. That was a true road game and shit happens.


I mean, next year Is going to even rougher in my opinion. So yea, before we take a year or two break from the tourney, I’d like to see us make it this year.
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Wait, Jarron is fine now? When he wasn’t playing well you said he was hurt. When he was throwing the ball to the other team, he was hurt. When he had a bad non conference you said it was because he was dealing with injuries. It’s almost like you story is changing. But that can’t be right.
 
Ok so what I’ve learned so far in this board:
-Jarron’s health gives us all the justification we need to lose to powerhouse programs like Colgate, BGU, Tulane and UCF.

-when we lose a game though, always blame Jarron. He’s the guy in charge, he should take the blame

-people wanted to suck all year as long as we can make a Cinderella run. So many people aspired to be a mid major program, I didn’t realize this.

-the team has played phenomenal defense all year long. We get leads and keep them every single time because our defense holds up when we need it to. No need for a change defensively. We’re dominant. Check the PPP.. 4 OT’s in a row just means the other team had a lucky rabbit foot and make some lucky shots

- none of Brannen’s issues followed him to UC. It’s not a TREND. We are amazing free throw shooters and we never squander leads due to poor defensive effort.

-4 tier 3 losses is Absolutely nothing to worry about. It’s all good in the hood. Who cares that we lack the Q1 wins that the only other team in the field with 3 tier 3 losses has. We will coast right in on selection Sunday. Might even get a 1 seed.




Y’all thanks for putting my mind at Ease. Bearcats basketball is in good hands. Next season, when Brannen gets rid of most these Cronin by s who are the reason we suck, we will be the best rebounding, defending and offensive team in the nation.


Let’s go
 
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cincyguy13 said:
Wait, Jarron is fine now? When he wasn’t playing well you said he was hurt. When he was throwing the ball to the other team, he was hurt. When he had a bad non conference you said it was because he was dealing with injuries. It’s almost like you story is changing. But that can’t be right.
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After the game last night, he said he felt healthy the last few games.


So I guess he just sucks. And sucks under this new system.
 
justinhub2003 said:
After the game last night, he said he felt healthy the last few games.


So I guess he just sucks. And sucks under this new system.
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Damn.,, so Jarron is healthy and sucks in this system. I wonder if anyone else on this team sucks ?

Damn Keith Williams from a 105 offensive rating to a 102???? I thought Keith was his idea player and he sucks in this system


Can’t be true for Tre:

Oh sh*t it is... went from a 112 offensive rating to a 105


Damn.. so Jarron, Tre and Keith are worse offensively under Brannen.


I know what it is... they all must be hurt.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Damn.,, so Jarron is healthy and sucks in this system. I wonder if anyone else on this team sucks ?

Damn Keith Williams from a 105 offensive rating to a 102???? I thought Keith was his idea player and he sucks in this system


Can’t be true for Tre:

Oh sh*t it is... went from a 112 offensive rating to a 105


Damn.. so Jarron, Tre and Keith are worse offensively under Brannen.


I know what it is... they all must be hurt.
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Weren’t you the one that said he’s been hurt?
 
justinhub2003 said:
Ok so what I’ve learned so far in this board:
-Jarron’s health gives us all the justification we need to lose to powerhouse programs like Colgate, BGU, Tulane and UCF.

-when we lose a game though, always blame Jarron. He’s the guy in charge, he should take the blame

-people wanted to suck all year as long as we can make a Cinderella run. So many people aspired to be a mid major program, I didn’t realize this.

-the team has played phenomenal defense all year long. We get leads and keep them every single time because our defense holds up when we need it to. No need for a change defensively. We’re dominant. Check the PPP.. 4 OT’s in a row just means the other team had a lucky rabbit foot and make some lucky shots

- none of Brannen’s issues followed him to UC. It’s not a TREND. We are amazing free throw shooters and we never squander leads due to poor defensive effort.

-4 tier 3 losses is Absolutely nothing to worry about. It’s all good in the hood. Who cares that we lack the Q1 wins that the only other team in the field with 3 tier 3 losses has. We will coast right in on selection Sunday. Might even get a 1 seed.




Y’all thanks for putting my mind at Ease. Bearcats basketball is in good hands. Next season, when Brannen gets rid of most these Cronin by s who are the reason we suck, we will be the best rebounding, defending and offensive team in the nation.


Let’s go
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Didn’t you also say you weren’t dramatic?
 
I know it's to be expected to have a couple of Danny Hurleys on any collegiate fan forum, but some of the whining and constant need to be right is getting insufferable. The, "see... I told you so" stuff needs to be eliminated from these discussions. I'm not saying a ban should be in order, just, maybe, the mods can delete the posts where guys are bickering back and forth. I get it, everyone likes to be right, but gloating about it makes you look like it's never happened to you before. Reading discussions between 2 or 3 people about how their take is the correct one drives any sane person crazy.
We have played so incredibly poorly of late, it's amazing we're even in the discussion to make the field. If we play ok against Houston and lose I'll be fine with that. I'm expecting a 15-20 point drubbing against Temple on senior night. The South Florida game will determine our season. We cannot lose that game. Who would have thought that at the beginning of the season?
 
jbreeds1 said:
The, "see... I told you so" stuff needs to be eliminated from these discussions. I'm not saying a ban should be in order, just, maybe, the mods can delete the posts where guys are bickering back and forth.
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I'm not going to delete anything unless it's threatening, offensive, or political (at least in the sports threads). Every poster is free to express whatever opinion they want. Game threads are the perfect place to get these fights out of our systems, since it will be dead by the time the next game comes around. It's much easier to keep fights out of a few on-topic threads than eliminated completely.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Damn.,, so Jarron is healthy and sucks in this system. I wonder if anyone else on this team sucks ?

Damn Keith Williams from a 105 offensive rating to a 102???? I thought Keith was his idea player and he sucks in this system


Can’t be true for Tre:

Oh sh*t it is... went from a 112 offensive rating to a 105


Damn.. so Jarron, Tre and Keith are worse offensively under Brannen.


I know what it is... they all must be hurt.
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I feel like you romanticize the past. Did we not lose to ecu last year? Did we not give up a lead to Iowa last year in the tourney? Did we not blow a 20 pt lead in the last 10min to Nevada? Did we not lose to Ohio university in ot? Did we not lose to a lot of bad basketball programs over the years? Have we been a great ft shooting team over the years? These are just a few instances and there are more.., I’m not sure how you think things used to be. We have also played a tough schedule as opposed to previous cupcake schedules in the past.
 
I am glad they get a much needed week off..... But if I am being honest with myself I think we lose @Houston, Win @USF, beat Temple on senior night. Get the 2 or 3 seed in the conference tourney, get a bye and end up playing the 6 or 7 seed in the 2nd round and that will be a UConn, UCF, Memphis or Temple and we lose a close game and pray the committee gives us a favor as a last 4 in. I hope I am wrong but just as soon as I think this team turns the corner, they lay an egg. I think the biggest thing is the issues from November are still the same issues in February and they will remain that way into March.
 

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