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What will be the outcome?

  • UC wins by 9+

    Votes: 12 24.5%

  • UC wins by 5-8

    Votes: 21 42.9%

  • UC wins by 1-4

    Votes: 12 24.5%

  • Xavier wins

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Total voters
    49
justinhub2003 said:
To be Fair, I do cringe when UC fans try to call them little brothers anymore. Sure they are a smaller school but in terms of basketball, we are the little brothers.

They have a better arena
They have a 3 game win streak
They have been out recruiting us
They are In a better conference
they have had more tournament success.

I'd just rather leave that comment alone as in debates it just sets us up for failure in a debate because they have plenty of Ammo.

It why I wanted to quietly go in and kick the shit out them. Their fans were so arrogant to start the year and I just want to beat them so bad. Losing to them would be hugely embarrassing and could really tarnish what has been an amazing season for us
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They aren't our little brother. They aren't even in our same family. They are worthless. No history like us. I don't care that they have been decent lately. We will have an updated arena in 2 years. Could careless about their so call good recruiting classes our recruits have turned out just fine. Would rather have any of our guys than what they have. They are in the Big East and got rewarded for not having a football team. Don't want to compare us to them. Just know that their sweet 3 game winning streak they have is ending Thursday.
 
jacobkdoyle said:
That's a little strong. I would like for this team to go undefeated at home though.

I like The Skinny Podcast. I'm surprised people are so fired up about the Xavier guy. Seems fine to me. I mean, he's a Xavier guy, so you kind of have to expect it. Might be more sensitive to his comments this week bc of the game, but generally I don't get the outrage.
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That isnt fine in any world we live in. I dont even consider them people
 
UCBearcats said:
X will finish the season ranked, Iowa State won't because they aren't a very good team.
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Iowa St is top 20 in Kenpom (ahead of Xavier) and ranked 30th in the most recent AP Poll (only 6 spots behind X) Every opportunity to exists for the exact opposite of what you just stated to occur. They are merely separated by 1 game. So are we saying X is no good either?
 
CHEER CINCY said:
Iowa St is top 20 in Kenpom (ahead of Xavier) and ranked 30th in the most recent AP Poll (only 6 spots behind X) Every opportunity to exists for the exact opposite of what you just stated to occur. They are merely separated by 1 game. So are we saying X is no good either?
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Kenpom is for nerds, Iowa State won't finish the season ranked and X will. That's my point.
 
Additional key fact: I believe no UC coach in history has ever lost 4 straight to X.

Add that to the fact that our senior class has never beaten X and thats a very disturbing set of key points. SMH
 
I'm loving the trash talk.

I want nothing more than to see Caupain and Johnson sitting at the postgame press conference victorious.
 
justinhub2003 said:
To be Fair, I do cringe when UC fans try to call them little brothers anymore. Sure they are a smaller school but in terms of basketball, we are the little brothers.

They have a better arena
They have a 3 game win streak
They have been out recruiting us
They are In a better conference
they have had more tournament success.

I'd just rather leave that comment alone as in debates it just sets us up for failure in a debate because they have plenty of Ammo.

It why I wanted to quietly go in and kick the shit out them. Their fans were so arrogant to start the year and I just want to beat them so bad. Losing to them would be hugely embarrassing and could really tarnish what has been an amazing season for us
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I don't really want to make a whole thing of this - but if you're going to be a Bearcat fan, you need to view things regarding X a little differently.

We're the little brother! Oh boy, where do I begin:

Arena: we'll have an updated arena in two years
3 game win streak: yes, their longest in the history of the rivalry. We've had 8 and 12 game win streaks
out recruiting us: debatable, but who's currently higher ranked with their recruits?
in a better conference: for basketball absolutely - their reward for not having a football program - and this hasn't been the case for most of the time of the rivalry
tournament success: are you serious!?! How many national titles? Final fours?

You act like the past 10 years comprises the entire rivalry. Remember, we lead the series 49-34.

Not to mention other items such as the largest employer in the City, Big O, polio vaccines, co-op, Benadryl, the Golden Gate bridge, POTUS, $1B+ endowment, top research university....

What's X got? You can get a decent liberal arts education at a private school if you want. If you want to be an engineer, a lawyer or a doctor - you better go to UC.

Who's their most notable basketball player? Tyrone Hill? Byron Larkin? Please.
Who's their most notable graduate? John Boehner? Please.
What's their greatest contribution to the academic world? 'crickets'
What's their endowment? $160M

I don't hate X, but please don't allow them to ever suggest they are our equal. They will always be our little brother - don't let a nice 10 year run for them fool you into thinking otherwise.
 
UCBearcats said:
We NEED to beat Xavier this year. We CANNOT lose to X for the 4th straight season and if Troy and KJ have any heart they won't allow this to happen. There isn't one player on our roster who has beaten X, this is so many levels of unacceptable it makes my brain hurt.

We haven't beaten a single team this season that is currently ranked in the Top 25 and this might be our last chance to do that. This team has got to show that it's different than past Mick teams and Thursday night is the first step in doing so.

This is the first year in the past few that we can legitimately say our team is better than X's, we CANNOT get out-coached by Mack again. If we don't win this game we need to go John Cooper on Cronin as soon as the game ends.
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Nice job trying to set up the narrative that if we win it's because of the players, but if we lose it's because we're out-coached.

You are a broken record.
 
2bearcatdad said:
Nice job trying to set up the narrative that if we win it's because of the players, but if we lose it's because we're out-coached.

You are a broken record.
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When you lose it's always about the coaching........the coach of a college sports team is the CEO. Leaders should take the blame for poor results in a well run organization.

Hopefully we win and it's a non issue. Very good year so far for Mick and his team but a lot left to accomplish before anyone should feel satisfied.

As far as the broken record part, that feedback means very little to me from a guy who's already set the stage to blame the refs if we lose. I'm about winning and accountability, not losing and excuses.
 
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UCBearcats said:
When you lose it's always about the coaching........the coach of a college sports team is the CEO. Leaders should take the blame for poor results in a well run organization.

Hopefully we win and it's a non issue. Very good year so far for Mick and his team but a lot left to accomplish before anyone should feel satisfied.

As far as the broken record part, that feedback means very little to me from a guy who's already set the stage to blame the refs if we lose. I'm about winning and accountability, not losing and excuses.
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Yes. Good leaders take the blame. Same with pitchers, same with QBs. They take the blame. It doesnt mean thats where the blame should always lie
 
Rallycats with a "Our City" watch from 9pm-1am Mon-Wed. They are going to be sitting by the Oscar statue making sure no pimple-faced, cordouroy-wearing norwood nerd F's with it.

Thats superb. I hope they steer-tie a few X students and return them to norwood naked painted red and black
 
coachpipe said:
Yes. Good leaders take the blame. Same with pitchers, same with QBs. They take the blame. It doesnt mean thats where the blame should always lie
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I agree with you, but I have a hard time blaming college kids for anything. This isn't the pros and these kids aren't making million dollar salaries.

Again, hopefully it's all a moot point and we crush Eggs on Thursday night.

Xavier (much like Kenpom) is for nerds.
 
UCBearcats said:
When you lose it's always about the coaching........the coach of a college sports team is the CEO. Leaders should take the blame for poor results in a well run organization.

Hopefully we win and it's a non issue. Very good year so far for Mick and his team but a lot left to accomplish before anyone should feel satisfied.

As far as the broken record part, that feedback means very little to me from a guy who's already set the stage to blame the refs if we lose. I'm about winning and accountability, not losing and excuses.
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Whatever dude.

You're the expert on basketball and coaching, but Kenpom is witchcraft. Lol.
 
2bearcatdad said:
I don't really want to make a whole thing of this - but if you're going to be a Bearcat fan, you need to view things regarding X a little differently.

We're the little brother! Oh boy, where do I begin:

Arena: we'll have an updated arena in two years
3 game win streak: yes, their longest in the history of the rivalry. We've had 8 and 12 game win streaks
out recruiting us: debatable, but who's currently higher ranked with their recruits?
in a better conference: for basketball absolutely - their reward for not having a football program - and this hasn't been the case for most of the time of the rivalry
tournament success: are you serious!?! How many national titles? Final fours?

You act like the past 10 years comprises the entire rivalry. Remember, we lead the series 49-34.

Not to mention other items such as the largest employer in the City, Big O, polio vaccines, co-op, Benadryl, the Golden Gate bridge, POTUS, $1B+ endowment, top research university....

What's X got? You can get a decent liberal arts education at a private school if you want. If you want to be an engineer, a lawyer or a doctor - you better go to UC.

Who's their most notable basketball player? Tyrone Hill? Byron Larkin? Please.
Who's their most notable graduate? John Boehner? Please.
What's their greatest contribution to the academic world? 'crickets'
What's their endowment? $160M

I don't hate X, but please don't allow them to ever suggest they are our equal. They will always be our little brother - don't let a nice 10 year run for them fool you into thinking otherwise.
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Why are you bringing anything other than basketball into this ? I said in terms of college basketball, not the god damn polio vaccination ???

I'm a die hard bearcats fan but I'm not delusional.

History of a program only goes so far. We have a better history. We've been to more final fours and all that jazz. But they are the best team in the city the last 10 years. The only way to charge that is to start beating them again.

Your an absolutely delusional fan if you think Xavier program is not at minimum on par with ours right now and by most measures better.

I want to beat them to shut them up. Because they have the upper hand
 
Can't wait for Thursday. Hope the guys relax and realize they are the better team and go out and play our game. A suffocating defense and a inside/outside offensive approach.
 
justinhub2003 said:
Why are you bringing anything other than basketball into this ? I said in terms of college basketball, not the god damn polio vaccination ???

I'm a die hard bearcats fan but I'm not delusional.

History of a program only goes so far. We have a better history. We've been to more final fours and all that jazz. But they are the best team in the city the last 10 years. The only way to charge that is to start beating them again.

Your an absolutely delusional fan if you think Xavier program is not at minimum on par with ours right now and by most measures better.

I want to beat them to shut them up. Because they have the upper hand
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You typed the words 'we're the little brother'.

I just don't know how you can do that.

Let's just win Thursday.

Go Cats!
 
This game with X is big for our seeding come tourney time. I think it's a 2 seed difference between a W or L.
 

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