'13 NY PF Jermaine Lawrence (Commit)

BearcatTalk

Help Support BearcatTalk:

Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria 4m
Cincinnati signee @mainestory looked very athletic in scoring 15 points in the @MKC2K13 . Has been working out hard since hand injury.
 
Jermaine Lawrence–2013/Pope John XXIII (N.J.)

Even though he barely played during his senior season of high school ball, the Cincinnati signee notched 15 points in the Senior Game and certainly looks like someone who could be playing in the NBA before long. At 6-10 and athletic, Lawrence is an unstoppable force when his shot is falling. He’s able to get to the rim at will in traffic but has a solid handle considering his size; he’s got the ability to hit the three and the mid-range game to complement his post skills.

http://zagsblog.com/articles/top-ten-players-at-the-mary-kline-classic/
 
Yeah I'm excited about him. With him and Rubles we will see some line ups where they play together. Talk about spreading the floor and having five guys who can attack on the floor all together!
 
It seems to me like there is always a big argument about why we should not read into how many stars a recruit has when we are recruiting them. On an individual basis I would say...that is probably a good rule of thumb. On a collective basis I would LOVE to see the numbers.

As a percentage how many 5 star recruits end up being great college players and also moving on to the NBA when compared to 4 stars, 3 stars, and 2 stars? If there was no rhyme or reason to the ratings then there would be no use at all for scouting sites or rankings.

To prove a point...some people will point to the 3 star guy who ended up being awesome and compare them to a 5 star guy that flopped. Wouldn't this be the exception rather than the rule in terms of the % of 3 and 5 star guys who have great impact? I don't know the answer but I am guessing there is a much higher % of 5 star guys than 3 star guys making huge impacts. I mean you only have about 25 or so 5 star guys...maybe 50 or so 4 star guys...and then what 100+ 3 star guys? I would guess the % based on these numbers would be something like 75% of 5 star guys have a big impact. Maybe 50% of 4 star guys, and 25% of 3 star guys...just as a crude example.

I wish people would stop arguing over semantics and just look at the results of the coaches who are able to evaluate the talent and then coach them up. That is to say...can they find the 3 and 4 star guys that will eventually shine above and beyond a 5 star they were looking at or could not pull away from the top programs. Some 5 star guys are based on potential and some 3 star guys are based on production. To be able to distinguish between the two as a coach is the most important thing IMO.
 
waterhead said:
It seems to me like there is always a big argument about why we should not read into how many stars a recruit has when we are recruiting them. On an individual basis I would say...that is probably a good rule of thumb. On a collective basis I would LOVE to see the numbers.

As a percentage how many 5 star recruits end up being great college players and also moving on to the NBA when compared to 4 stars, 3 stars, and 2 stars? If there was no rhyme or reason to the ratings then there would be no use at all for scouting sites or rankings.

To prove a point...some people will point to the 3 star guy who ended up being awesome and compare them to a 5 star guy that flopped. Wouldn't this be the exception rather than the rule in terms of the % of 3 and 5 star guys who have great impact? I don't know the answer but I am guessing there is a much higher % of 5 star guys than 3 star guys making huge impacts. I mean you only have about 25 or so 5 star guys...maybe 50 or so 4 star guys...and then what 100+ 3 star guys? I would guess the % based on these numbers would be something like 75% of 5 star guys have a big impact. Maybe 50% of 4 star guys, and 25% of 3 star guys...just as a crude example.

I wish people would stop arguing over semantics and just look at the results of the coaches who are able to evaluate the talent and then coach them up. That is to say...can they find the 3 and 4 star guys that will eventually shine above and beyond a 5 star they were looking at or could not pull away from the top programs. Some 5 star guys are based on potential and some 3 star guys are based on production. To be able to distinguish between the two as a coach is the most important thing IMO.
Click to expand...

The basic rule of thumb is the recruiting services are really good with the top 25 players, good with the next 25 and above average with the next 50. They usually do a good job with the players they actually see.
 
Averaged 18.8 points, 13.0 rebounds and 6.4 blocks during his junior season at Pope John XXIII in Sparta, N.J. ... registered seven double-doubles and two triple-doubles, including 25 points, 15 rebounds and 15 blocks in the county championship game as a junior ... averaged 13.3 points and 7.5 rebounds with a pair of double-doubles in 11 games during an injury-shortened senior campaign ... listed among the nation's top overall prospects according to multiple recruiting services, including Scout.com (19th), 247Sports.com (23rd), ESPN.com (25th) and Rivals.com (26th) ... tabbed a five-star prospect by Scout.com, Rivals.com and 247Sports.com ... ranked as the No. 2 overall prospect from New York by ESPN.com.
 
Manhattan is playing on ESPNU right now. Not sure if Lawrence is healthy and actually playing but thought I'd let everyone know.
 

Similar threads

U
'13 NY PF Maurice Ndour (Offer)
Replies
3
Views
5K
mplebanon
M
B
'14 FL PF Dante Buford
2 3 4
Replies
66
Views
32K
Bearcatboy
B
B
'13 NC PF Tony Nunn
Replies
8
Views
7K
bearcat18
B
B
'14 NY PF Chris McCullough
Replies
5
Views
6K
Scheids21
S
bearcat jeff
2013 OH PF Tony Farmer (Offer)
Replies
9
Views
6K
The HFD Fan
T
Back
Top