'15 NC State Transfer PF Kyle Washington (Commit)

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Since 2009, we've had only one Top 40 recruiting class. And that was the class with Lawrence, Strickland and Morman. This 2015 class is Mick's 10th, and it doesn't rank in the Top 50 nationally. Plus we have 2 scholarships left that our coaches said we were going to use, but we haven't. Now add in that we've missed on Ward for 2016 already, we don't appear to lead for a single player, and we're offering guys being recruited by Cal-State Bakersfield, Fairfield, Hofstra, High Point, Kennesaw State, Drexel, Rider, Robert Morris and Sam Houston State. Not good enough imo. We're paying our coach too much to be recruiting at this level. We were told we had to rebuild with 7 new players just this year, but now somehow 9 scholarships are open again after just 2 years. A bigger picture is forming. We're 1-3 in the tournament in the last 3 years, with an average 7.7 seed. All I'm saying, then I'm done, is that we're playing with fire. This 2015-2016 team better be amazing, bc based on our track record, it looks like we're on pace to jump right back into the rebuild after this season. Pressure is really on to land some MAJOR high school players this fall.

Stop making something out of nothing, you are a mod, there's absolutely no reason for a nonsense post like this. You are suppose to be the one keeping the peace not fueling the fire when there was never a fire in the first place.
 
Stop making something out of nothing, you are a mod, there's absolutely no reason for a nonsense post like this. You are suppose to be the one keeping the peace not fueling the fire when there was never a fire in the first place.

He has a point. It's not fueling a fire, he is stating his opinion. I like that he is a mod and raises legitimate questions.
 
Stop making something out of nothing, you are a mod, there's absolutely no reason for a nonsense post like this. You are suppose to be the one keeping the peace not fueling the fire when there was never a fire in the first place.

All he posted were facts... nothing wrong with that.
 
He plays a brand of basketball that is not particularly exciting to watch, doesn't develop young players well (other than sk), tells fans every year how they are focused on playing up tempo then doesn't, and cant land better prospects.

Just out of curiosity, if he can't recruit and can't develop players, then how does he or his teams have any form of success at all? If your coach can't do either of those things, and the weak recruiting classes never develop, wouldn't that lead to losing seasons, or at the very least no tournament appearances?
 
All he posted were facts... nothing wrong with that.

It's the point of view that bothers me. People on here don't realize that mick is our best option as head coach. You guys act like someone can just walk into our program and win championships. Our best opportunity to win championships is with mick as our coach. I'm fine with people being pissed without seeing results, if I were a Memphis fan, sure I'd say it's time for pasner to go. But mick Cronin deserves our respect and it's awful that some of you don't give it to him.
 
Just out of curiosity, if he can't recruit and can't develop players, then how does he or his teams have any form of success at all? If your coach can't do either of those things, and the weak recruiting classes never develop, wouldn't that lead to losing seasons, or at the very least no tournament appearances?

Soft schedules. But can you argue with poor front court development? Why did deberry get so few minutes. He hardly plays bench players even when blowing teams out. Then we all wonder why Quadri was almost useless at the end of the year.
 
It's the point of view that bothers me. People on here don't realize that mick is our best option as head coach. You guys act like someone can just walk into our program and win championships. Our best opportunity to win championships is with mick as our coach. I'm fine with people being pissed without seeing results, if I were a Memphis fan, sure I'd say it's time for pasner to go. But mick Cronin deserves our respect and it's awful that some of you don't give it to him.

You can't possibly be sure or prove that he is our best option.
 
You can't possibly be sure or prove that he is our best option.

That is true, he's turned down programs that can offer him more than we can though (Illinois) I don't know any other coach that could do as good as mick has, that would want to stay at uc over a higher paid/ better opportunity.
 
That is true, he's turned down programs that can offer him more than we can though (Illinois) I don't know any other coach that could do as good as mick has, that would want to stay at uc over a higher paid/ better opportunity.

63 power five schools then there is the new big east and Mick is the 28th highest paid coach in the country. I think we could attract someone.
 
Stop making something out of nothing, you are a mod, there's absolutely no reason for a nonsense post like this. You are suppose to be the one keeping the peace not fueling the fire when there was never a fire in the first place.
Who says mods can't post their opinions. He isn't a judge. he's speaking his opinion just like you.
 
And why be negative when there is so much positive going on. Do not get it.
Not at moment. We had zero returning player average 10pg. We lost at HOME to bottom feeder conference team. What's positive? Preseason ranking in top 20? Lol, funny when them same websites rank our recruiting class they don't know what their talking about. I really don't care who we get just get them in program for we can start development.
 
I know this is out of place on this thread, but does anybody have any new info on Kyle Washington?
 
Not at moment. We had zero returning player average 10pg. We lost at HOME to bottom feeder conference team. What's positive? Preseason ranking in top 20? Lol, funny when them same websites rank our recruiting class they don't know what their talking about. I really don't care who we get just get them in program for we can start development.

I guess the glass is half full for me and half empty for others.
 
Can we rename this the "Mick is a no good communist dog killing midget who can't coach" thread and please start a new thread on Kyle Washington?
 
Seriously I keep hoping there is new info but people are just complaining. I think this team without he three new guys will be good. Adding the current recruits they could be great. Another big would be nice but I am not worried. We want the RIGHT guys for this program not just highly rated ones.
 
I think we just need to keep it all in perspective. I think we need a little higher caliber recruit to become a contender on a regular basis. That being said Mick is pretty good at finding productive players (outside of the top recruits) and getting a lot out of them.

I haven't been this excited for a season to start in a long while so I think we are headed in the right direction. We need a legitimate contender year to help with landing top recruits. Because of what we are loosing at the 5 I think we need that to happen this year.

If we can't make some noise this year and have that translate to recruiting...I will be officially concerned for our future under Cronin. But I'm not quite there yet because I see the potential with this particular team. If we can get some immediate help for recruiting by having a great year I think it will get a little easier as we move toward renovating the arena...and potentially find a new home in a power conference.

This is a very important year IMO...to gain some momentum prior to those other (potential) things happening. It could snow ball...and it could fizzle out.
 
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