If we get a 6 seed by winning 30 games or a 6 seed by winning 27 games with a better SOS I think we will be more prepared for the dance with the tougher schedule.
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If we get a 6 seed by winning 30 games or a 6 seed by winning 27 games with a better SOS I think we will be more prepared for the dance with the tougher schedule.
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Most of those years we are losing records and didn't make the tourney
We were trying to field a team for 4-5 of the years
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We are a preseason top 15 team. WE should be able to compete with any team. Will we lose some yes. We lost to ucla last year but we were in the game. They were better than us. It happens. That's sports. Can't be scared to play good teams. I've never heard of that kind of thinking.
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Your not going to get a better seed than this year with more losses
The team might be a little better not alot
I'd take a win over UCLA and loss to Wichita State all day every day over two wins against Samford and Lipscomb.
You assume that every game we play against better competition is going to be a loss, that's absurd.
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Agree, Wins like lipscomb and samford do nothing for me or the team. You don't grow from beating a team by 50. It my be good for your younger guys to get minutes but that's about it.I'd take a win over UCLA and loss to Wichita State all day every day over two wins against Samford and Lipscomb.
You assume that every game we play against better competition is going to be a loss, that's absurd.
It is absurd to assume we will lose every game against a decent team when we are a top 15-20 team
Agree, Wins like lipscomb and samford do nothing for me or the team. You don't grow from beating a team by 50. It my be good for your younger guys to get minutes but that's about it.
It is absurd to assume we will lose every game against a decent team when we are a top 15-20 team
not to mention. Beating a team like Samford by 50 actually hurts your RPI more than losing to a team like UCLA.
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I'd take a win over UCLA and loss to Wichita State all day every day over two wins against Samford and Lipscomb.
You assume that every game we play against better competition is going to be a loss, that's absurd.
We suck on the road and this year all those hard games are on the road there for more than half will be losses.
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We suck on the road and this year all those hard games are on the road there for more than half will be losses.
Did you even read coachpipe's post? Even if we were to lose them all (not gonna happen), it looks better on your resume to lose @ UCLA than win at home vs Fairleigh Dickinson, even if it's by 70. You literally cannot argue that. It is factually incorrect.
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If he would rather be 35-0 and beat everyone by 30-50, than play good teams and maybe lose 8 games, there is nothing we can say. if I want to be the best team in the country, or considered a top program, I want to play other great teams and see if I can beat them. If not, what are we even playing for. If we lose, who cares. It doesn't hurt us at allDid you even read coachpipe's post? Even if we were to lose them all (not gonna happen), it looks better on your resume to lose @ UCLA than win at home vs Fairleigh Dickinson, even if it's by 70. You literally cannot argue that. It is factually incorrect.
We suck on the road and this year all those hard games are on the road there for more than half will be losses.
Last year we lost on the road in conference to SMU and UCF and we won all home games. I could see another season with 2 losses on the road in conference while winning all home games. We could beat either of those teams but we could also lose another.
So then we have X and UCLA on the road. We could win 1 of those. They aren't so highly ranked.
We potentially have Florida neutral. Let's call it a loss. I assume we can beat Iowa and Ms ST.
I just don't see the loss column adding up much more this year than last year. Maybe a couple games difference. We will be a better team this year IMO. If our SOS is better and we have only 2 more regular season losses...we may be in a similar seed with better preparation heading to the dance.
I just don't see 8-9 losses when we only had 4 last year. The only caveat is our home games won't have the same advantage so maybe we lose 1 home game. I could see 6-7 losses but not 8-9.
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I think we are better than ucla and x next year. Still could lose but wouldn't suprise me if we won both
IMO yes and if you look back to last year I was pretty much right on all the losses before the season started
Interesting. I went back to look at the 2016 thread. Here are your comments with my comments in bold...
Easy schedule cuz I think we lose all big games this year (big shocker) to lack of depth
Duke (did not play)
At Iowa state (wrong)
At Butler (right)
Xavier (wrong)
Uconn (wrong)
At smu (right)
Uconn (wrong)
"Rhode Island is a win (wrong) but 4 of the 7 are definitely loses, duke ,iowa state, xavier and one of uconn's I guarantee it (wrong on all). 24-7 (wrong) is still a good recorded regular season..."
I would not call 2 out of 7 almost right on all losses.
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GarradJ21
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LMAO. That's what he use to tell his mom on his tests he would take in class. I almost got them all right Mom! Yeah man...2 for 7
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We suck on the road and this year all those hard games are on the road there for more than half will be losses.
Way to go out on the limb and project that, but what's your point? A loss to Wichita State, UCLA, Florida, or Xavier helps our RPI more than a win over Samford, Lipscomb, Brown, Albany, or Fairleigh Dickinson does. At the end of the day that helps us get a higher seed in the NCAA tourney which helps us have a better chance of making a run to a Final Four.
I'm sure people are going to complain if we lose more than half of our tough tests on the road, I'll be one of them, I think that's the original point you were trying to make in this thread. If you want to hold yourself to a higher standard then you put tough tests on your schedule and win them. The good news is that even if we do lose over half of them we'll still be in a better place SOS and RPI wise than we were last season, assuming we take care of our lesser competition the same way we did last year.
Complaining about losing games to good teams and complaining about playing them in the first place are two very different things.
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The whole end of the year last year everybody said we were going to win out with like 10 games left no wind up losing three of them one in the tournament go back and look I was right you all were wrongInteresting. I went back to look at the 2016 thread. Here are your comments with my comments in bold...
Easy schedule cuz I think we lose all big games this year (big shocker) to lack of depth
Duke (did not play)
At Iowa state (wrong)
At Butler (right)
Xavier (wrong)
Uconn (wrong)
At smu (right)
Uconn (wrong)
"Rhode Island is a win (wrong) but 4 of the 7 are definitely loses, duke ,iowa state, xavier and one of uconn's I guarantee it (wrong on all). 24-7 (wrong) is still a good recorded regular season..."
I would not call 2 out of 7 almost right on all losses.
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Way to go out on the limb and project that, but what's your point? A loss to Wichita State, UCLA, Florida, or Xavier helps our RPI more than a win over Samford, Lipscomb, Brown, Albany, or Fairleigh Dickinson does. At the end of the day that helps us get a higher seed in the NCAA tourney which helps us have a better chance of making a run to a Final Four.
I'm sure people are going to complain if we lose more than half of our tough tests on the road, I'll be one of them, I think that's the original point you were trying to make in this thread. If you want to hold yourself to a higher standard then you put tough tests on your schedule and win them. The good news is that even if we do lose over half of them we'll still be in a better place SOS and RPI wise than we were last season, assuming we take care of our lesser competition the same way we did last year.
Complaining about losing games to good teams and complaining about playing them in the first place are two very different things.
This thing started with me asking a question if everybody was going to be mad if we lost these games and everybody turns it into he said she said
I get that it will make us better if we play harder teams or whatever but if you make it to the tournament no matter what seed you are if you were that good you should beat all the teams
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We can lose more games and be a better team. I think that what he doesn't understand. Too hung up on the win/loss record. We had plenty of teams in the 90s that never won 30 games that were great
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We can lose more games and be a better team. I think that what he doesn't understand. Too hung up on the win/loss record. We had plenty of teams in the 90s that never won 30 games that were great
You are exactly right I care about wins and losses
The whole end of the year last year everybody said we were going to win out with like 10 games left no wind up losing three of them one in the tournament go back and look I was right you all were wrong
Your comment was about being right BEFORE the REGULAR season...not during. Now you are switching it up to include mid season predictions and post season losses. Try again
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Bearcatboy
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Interesting. I went back to look at the 2016 thread. Here are your comments with my comments in bold...
Easy schedule cuz I think we lose all big games this year (big shocker) to lack of depth
Duke (did not play)
At Iowa state (wrong)
At Butler (right)
Xavier (wrong)
Uconn (wrong)
At smu (right)
Uconn (wrong)
"Rhode Island is a win (wrong) but 4 of the 7 are definitely loses, duke ,iowa state, xavier and one of uconn's I guarantee it (wrong on all). 24-7 (wrong) is still a good recorded regular season..."
I would not call 2 out of 7 almost right on all losses.
It's also funny how at the beginning of the season I make predictions and you won't just so you don't look bad at the end of the year shows what kind of person you are