2020 Bracketology

[Quadri's #1 fan]

Butler doesn’t count though because they were at auto bid from winning their conference tourney.

Yes they won their tournament, but you aren't an 8 seed if you're the auto bid. So they still would've made it in soundly.

 

[justinhub2003]

You aren't an 8 seed if you're the auto bid.

I’m not debating seeds. You have to disqualify auto bids because you have no idea what would happen if they lost in the horizon tourney. Or whatever their league was called

 

[Jon Rycek]

I’m not debating seeds. You have to disqualify auto bids because you have no idea what would happen if they lost in the horizon tourney. Or whatever their league was called

I would say that if they got an 8, like quadri said, they were in no matter what. Sure winning the tourney made it a lock and probably even moved their seed up a little, they would have had to drop behind another 16 teams at least to not make it. They’d never be that safe just because of a tourney win

 

[justinhub2003]

I would say that if they got an 8, like quadri said, they were in no matter what. Sure winning the tourney made it a lock and probably even moved their seed up a little, they would have had to drop behind another 16 teams at least to not make it. They’d never be that safe just because of a tourney win

Context is everything though.

Auto bids can’t be apart of the equation because they are in regardless. I’m not commenting on butler one way or the other, only that the only way to look at similar resumes is to look at at Large bids only.

You have to disqualify auto bids. With out butler getting the auto bid, it messes up the entire bracket because someone other team gets in if they don’t and it could bump someone else on this list off.

Obviously If UC wins the conference tourney then we can compare them to butlers Seeding. But when looking at at large bids you dang include auto bids unless we are 100% certain we will win our tourney

 

[mdchick]

Cincy moves to 36th in kenpom

 

[cincrulz11]

on yesterdays update to bracketmatrix we are up to an 11 seed and in 71 of 91 brackets.

 

[justinhub2003]

Cincy moves to 36th in kenpom

Now down to 40th again

 

[justinhub2003]

Very small but possible chance that UC could play UCLA in a play in game If UCLA wins out their remaining games.

The committee loves setting stuff like this up. If UCLA wins out or wins the conference tourney, I wouldn’t put it past them to do such a thing.

 

[Bcatfollower]

Very small but possible chance that UC could play UCLA in a play in game If UCLA wins out their remaining games.

The committee loves setting stuff like this up. If UCLA wins out or wins the conference tourney, I wouldn’t put it past them to do such a thing.

UCLA won’t do either of those things. Bad coaching

 

[justinhub2003]

UCLA won’t do either of those things. Bad coaching

You’re probably right.

But they have 4 tier 1 wins right now. They win out, they not only have a better resume but could knock us off the bubble if we slipped up.


With 3 tier 1 games remaining and 2 tier 2

For what’s its worth kenpom predicts 5 straights losses

 

[sedziobs]

I expect we'll still be the 3rd to last team in after the weekend. I think Georgetown will replace Stanford as the last team in. Arkansas and Virginia will swap places with us sandwiched in between.

 

[skyblade]

You’re probably right.

But they have 4 tier 1 wins right now. They win out, they not only have a better resume but could knock us off the bubble if we slipped up.


With 3 tier 1 games remaining and 2 tier 2

For what’s its worth kenpom predicts 5 straights losses

Not saying I expect UCLA to win out, but their kenpom ranking is deceiving. They were terrible early in the year (and thus the low kenpom rank), but have figured out how to play defense how Cronin wants it and are only getting better.

They are 7-2 over their last 9, including wins at a ranked Arizona, where they held Arizona to their lowest point total of the season and vs ranked Colorado. Them winning out is unlikely, but going 4-1 is possible. Then they have to hope the committee is willing to forgive their early season losses as a product of having a new coach and look at their record over their last 14 games (would be 11-3 with multiple Q1 victories if they finish 4-1).

 

[Bcatfollower]

Not saying I expect UCLA to win out, but their kenpom ranking is deceiving. They were terrible early in the year (and thus the low kenpom rank), but have figured out how to play defense how Cronin wants it and are only getting better.

They are 7-2 over their last 9, including wins at a ranked Arizona, where they held Arizona to their lowest point total of the season and vs ranked Colorado. Them winning out is unlikely, but going 4-1 is possible. Then they have to hope the committee is willing to forgive their early season losses as a product of having a new coach and look at their record over their last 14 games (would be 11-3 with multiple Q1 victories if they finish 4-1).

Maybe the committee would overlook our early failures too

 

[skyblade]

Maybe the committee would overlook our early failures too

There's definitely an argument to be made that they should, especially given that Jarron was injured. The difference is, as long as we only drop one more we should be in the tournament regardless. UCLA needs to lose at most one game and hope the committee focuses on their last 14ish games.

 

[justinhub2003]

I think our bad losses and UCLA’s are pretty on par. We have 3 tier 3 losses they have 1 tier 3 loss and one tier 4

But they lack Q2 wins.

But if UC and UCLA both managed to win out. I’d probably take UCLA’s resume just because it would have 7 tier 1 wins

 

[cincyguy13]

I think our bad losses and UCLA’s are pretty on par. We have 3 tier 3 losses they have 1 tier 3 loss and one tier 4

But they lack Q2 wins.

But if UC and UCLA both managed to win out. I’d probably take UCLA’s resume just because it would have 7 tier 1 wins

We really think UCLA could win out? I could easily see them losing 3 of their final 5. They have a hard schedule. I get the are playing better but they still aren’t that good. They have 3 road games. Those alone are going to be hard to win.

 

[cincyguy13]

If we go 4-1, losing to Houston, I think we get in easy. We obviously have to play much better. Wichita is going to give us everything they have and @usf is no joke. Houston will most likely lose 1-2 more.

 

[cincrulz11]

If we go 4-1, losing to Houston, I think we get in easy. We obviously have to play much better. Wichita is going to give us everything they have and @usf is no joke. Houston will most likely lose 1-2 more.

agree with all this. @usf is a sleeper. back to back road games, top 125 opponent.


the team looks like it needs the week off we get after this week. legs seem tired and jarron needs to get back to healthy.

 

[cincyguy13]

agree with all this. @usf is a sleeper. back to back road games, top 125 opponent.


the team looks like it needs the week off we get after this week. legs seem tired and jarron needs to get back to healthy.

We have a week at home. That should help recharge the batteries to some extent.

 

[TheLongHaul]

Very small but possible chance that UC could play UCLA in a play in game If UCLA wins out their remaining games.

The committee loves setting stuff like this up. If UCLA wins out or wins the conference tourney, I wouldn’t put it past them to do such a thing.

Is there any UC fan who wouldn't take a first weekend(ish) game against a Mick Cronin team?