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Certainly he has to understand the time, effort and money the University has invested to just be considered. Being his school jumped to the league he also would know why it is necessary or advantageous. Not to mention how much the fans who loved and supported him during his tenure want this to happen. I guess it really doesn't surprise me. His year long battle with the administration over his dismissal certainly didn't help the transition to the big east or the recovery after the battle. Not to mention the negative publicity the school received in the process.

To add to this... I think Bob wouldn't want to play UC regularly twice a year. Especially coming to UC every season. Too much emotional stress for the big man. He may still hate that administration but he loves UC and the common people. Get over it Bob, we are coming.
 
Certainly he has to understand the time, effort and money the University has invested to just be considered. Being his school jumped to the league he also would know why it is necessary or advantageous. Not to mention how much the fans who loved and supported him during his tenure want this to happen. I guess it really doesn't surprise me. His year long battle with the administration over his dismissal certainly didn't help the transition to the big east or the recovery after the battle. Not to mention the negative publicity the school received in the process.

I remember Huggins saying during the basketball season that in order to expand, the new teams would have to bring something to the table. He doesn't think any do. He's been on that for a while. Doesn't really matter though. He's just one voice.
 
To add to this... I think Bob wouldn't want to play UC regularly twice a year. Especially coming to UC every season. Too much emotional stress for the big man. He may still hate that administration but he loves UC and the common people. Get over it Bob, we are coming.
Bob may want to look in the mirror. His displeasure with the administration stems from his behavior.
 
I remember Huggins saying during the basketball season that in order to expand, the new teams would have to bring something to the table. He doesn't think any do. He's been on that for a while. Doesn't really matter though. He's just one voice.
If he thought so little of our product why did he stay so long? Bob should keep his foul mouth shut. Literally. Drink, food and commentary. After the video of his arrest he should be grateful he had another opportunity to coach and mentor young people.
 
Waite you're my guy, but get over it. Huggins is the greatest thing to happen to our program since the '60's and isn't here now. No point in rehashing everything...
 
If he thought so little of our product why did he stay so long? Bob should keep his foul mouth shut. Literally. Drink, food and commentary. After the video of his arrest he should be grateful he had another opportunity to coach and mentor young people.

You are correct sir!
 
Waite you're my guy, but get over it. Huggins is the greatest thing to happen to our program since the '60's and isn't here now. No point in rehashing everything...
My brother your right I should put it behind me. He provided many highlights while he was here, for sure. I enjoyed his years here as much as anyone. Probably why I am still angry. I really expected better from him. The handling of his departure was pouring salt in the wound. The fan base is still feeling the effects. That's my beef.
 
My brother your right I should put it behind me. He provided many highlights while he was here, for sure. I enjoyed his years here as much as anyone. Probably why I am still angry. I really expected better from him. The handling of his departure was pouring salt in the wound. The fan base is still feeling the effects. That's my beef.

incoming freshmen were first graders when that happened. move on. he's a basketball coach.

as for the comments, some of you guys care way too much about an honest answer provided when posed a question. the basketball folks generally don't like all the realignment of the last decade that was driven by football.
 
incoming freshmen were first graders when that happened. move on. he's a basketball coach.

as for the comments, some of you guys care way too much about an honest answer provided when posed a question. the basketball folks generally don't like all the realignment of the last decade that was driven by football.
A basketball coach at a major university with much access. Who's number 1 objective should be mentoring his players. It's not just him that aggravates me it is the system. Home many homes do you think some of these coaches go into speaking about how much they care about the kids. As far as realignment it is another example of bastadizing the system. It's all about the money. As far as Huggins goes your right I should move on. The problem is much bigger then his fat ass.
 
I'd like to apologize for getting off topic in the thread. Very sore subject for me. Taking care of our young people should be paramount in this country. They are the future I'm told. Parents, Educators/coaches and clergy should be held to the highest standards. We are locking up our youth at a alarming rate in this country. Much of it for profit as evidenced here.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...s-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal

Sorry for the rant. Its probably why things like community involvement, graduation rates and good character student athletes are a big part of the equation for me as opposed to just winning a few more games. Please do not take my comment as implying some on here don't. This is a huge problem in our country today. Much of it can be attributed to how we educate our young people.
 
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A basketball coach at a major university with much access. Who's number 1 objective should be mentoring his players. It's not just him that aggravates me it is the system. Home many homes do you think some of these coaches go into speaking about how much they care about the kids. As far as realignment it is another example of bastadizing the system. It's all about the money. As far as Huggins goes your right I should move on. The problem is much bigger then his fat ass.

the number 1 objective of a basketball coach at a major university should be winning on the court. period.
 
Check out @EmptySeatsPics's Tweet: https://twitter.com/EmptySeatsPics/status/768620310660845568?s=09

Houston's fan support is so good. I mentioned earlier, they can't even show up for their MLS team. Meanwhile, FC Cincinnati had 14,000+ tonight. Houston sucks on all fronts.


I really can't stress enough how little you know about what you're talking about here. Want me to take a picture at a recent Reds game and base all opinion of Cincinnati's ability to support the B12 off of that? Or, we could just go on average attendance at CFB games for 2015. Memphis outdrew us by 6K a game. C'mon, man. We're better than that.

I've lived in Houston for over 3 years now. Lots to like about it. Stuff to dislike. Like any city. Cincinnati is a better fit in the B12 right now over Houston for many reasons but none of them have to do with attendance at a soccer game.
 
I really can't stress enough how little you know about what you're talking about here. Want me to take a picture at a recent Reds game and base all opinion of Cincinnati's ability to support the B12 off of that? Or, we could just go on average attendance at CFB games for 2015. Memphis outdrew us by 6K a game. C'mon, man. We're better than that.

I've lived in Houston for over 3 years now. Lots to like about it. Stuff to dislike. Like any city. Cincinnati is a better fit in the B12 right now over Houston for many reasons but none of them have to do with attendance at a soccer game.

But if we draw 17k to FCC games, we will obviously draw 17k to UC soccer games!

Oh wait...
 
the number 1 objective of a basketball coach at a major university should be winning on the court. period.

While you may have stated it a bit harsh, you are correct.

The coaches are not being paid millions to shape young men. They are being paid millions to elevate the program and essentially advertise the university's brand on a national stage. The brand awareness that sports generate, has a huge impact on the value of the degree and what the university can charge for that degree.

With this being said, I still would want my school graduating the players and shaping them into great men. Winning is just still more important for the university overall.
 
Really, shouldn't it be both? These don't have to be mutually exclusive. I want to win AND I want those wearing the uniform of my alma mater (and coaching it) to reflect well on our university. Whether we like it or not, how our coaches, players, and teams are perceived do reflect on the university. Win baby. But not at ALL costs. Don't cheat. Don't break the law. Don't embarrass the university. Ideally, be an upstanding role model for young people. Representing the university with pride and dignity should be table stakes.

But of course, as far as the coach is concerned, you also have to win. That's why you make the big bucks.
 
I really can't stress enough how little you know about what you're talking about here. Want me to take a picture at a recent Reds game and base all opinion of Cincinnati's ability to support the B12 off of that? Or, we could just go on average attendance at CFB games for 2015. Memphis outdrew us by 6K a game. C'mon, man. We're better than that.

I've lived in Houston for over 3 years now. Lots to like about it. Stuff to dislike. Like any city. Cincinnati is a better fit in the B12 right now over Houston for many reasons but none of them have to do with attendance at a soccer game.

You need to calm down buddy. Maybe I struck a nerve since you're a fine Houstonian. It was merely a sarcastic jab at Houston wanting in the Big 12. Wasn't out to make points. Thanks.
 
Really, shouldn't it be both? These don't have to be mutually exclusive. I want to win AND I want those wearing the uniform of my alma mater (and coaching it) to reflect well on our university. Whether we like it or not, how our coaches, players, and teams are perceived do reflect on the university. Win baby. But not at ALL costs. Don't cheat. Don't break the law. Don't embarrass the university. Ideally, be an upstanding role model for young people. Representing the university with pride and dignity should be table stakes.

But of course, as far as the coach is concerned, you also have to win. That's why you make the big bucks.

The question I would ask is, "Was it more beneficial to the University overall to have a top end program with character issues like the one Huggins ran, or a relatively clean borderline top 25 program that Cronin is running?"

I like Cronin and think he is doing a great job for UC/athletes with his resources. However, I believe the Huggins years were better for UC overall.
 
The question I would ask is, "Was it more beneficial to the University overall to have a top end program with character issues like the one Huggins ran, or a relatively clean borderline top 25 program that Cronin is running?"

I like Cronin and think he is doing a great job for UC/athletes with his resources. However, I believe the Huggins years were better for UC overall.

From an athletic standpoint, I would agree. From an overall university standpoint, I would disagree.
 
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