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Bearcat_NTS said:
Choo to the Rangers today, 7 years 130 million...
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Saw that. Really hard for me to understand the money baseball teams throw around. As a old timer who has followed the game for years. Prior to drugs entering the game players statistically began to decline around the age of 32. Now players are getting huge contacts for big dollars that are guaranteed into their 40's. Makes you wonder how effective their drug testing policy is enforced.
 
One, I can't believe he got that money. Two, after what he did to the Yankees I was hoping no team would sign him to big bucks and honestly, I am happy he is gone. I have zero respect for Shin Soo Choo. Teams/owners need to take a stand against these big dollar contracts and let a player like Choo sit out a year.
 
Amberlycolonel said:
A lot of money for a platoon player.
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He was the best leadoff hitter in MLB last year.

Walt should have signed Beltran

TYZ, when he selected Boras as his agent he was as good as gone then. If you were looking for jobs wouldn't you look for the one that compensated you the most? It is his right and he got almost what he wanted.
 
Patrick Bateman said:
He was the best leadoff hitter in MLB last year.

Walt should have signed Beltran

TYZ, when he selected Boras as his agent he was as good as gone then. If you were looking for jobs wouldn't you look for the one that compensated you the most? It is his right and he got almost what he wanted.
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The Reds would've been dumb to sign him for anything more than 3-year, 14-15 million per year contract and even that would be more money than I think he's worth. Unfortunately when buying on the free agent market you have to overpay, especially for a player coming off his best year statistically. His OBP was obscene last year for a guy with some pop in his bat. Realistically Choo is a good hitter that can get on base and has some pop in his bat. But he has average speed and is suspect against lefties. Kind of hard to throw 20 million per at him. But what iritated me to lose respect with him was that he came out and asked for a 7-year 140 million dollar deal. More power to you if you get it. Well, the Yankees offered him that exact contract and he turned it down because the Yankees just signed Ellsbury to a 7-year 153 million dollar deal and they all of a sudden wanted the same deal or better. So the Yankees pulled their offer. And before anyone says it's his agent, bullshit, your agent works for you. If he went along with Boras' antics then he is to blame. A player who asks for an obscene amount of money that then goes and wants more after being offered what he wanted in the first place is just wrong. And I know that is Boras doing that, but like I said you hired the man and you had the decision to accept that offer. I was hoping he ended up signing for much, much less, ala Latrell Spreewell after that stunt. Baseball needs to seriously change it's way of doing business. If a player like Choo is getting close to 20 million per year this sport will be in the toilet soon. I thought we had made some headway the last few years with contracts not going crazy, but the past couple years it has gotten out of hand again.
 
david aka the TYZ said:
The Reds would've been dumb to sign him for anything more than 3-year, 14-15 million per year contract and even that would be more money than I think he's worth. Unfortunately when buying on the free agent market you have to overpay, especially for a player coming off his best year statistically. His OBP was obscene last year for a guy with some pop in his bat. Realistically Choo is a good hitter that can get on base and has some pop in his bat. But he has average speed and is suspect against lefties. Kind of hard to throw 20 million per at him. But what iritated me to lose respect with him was that he came out and asked for a 7-year 140 million dollar deal. More power to you if you get it. Well, the Yankees offered him that exact contract and he turned it down because the Yankees just signed Ellsbury to a 7-year 153 million dollar deal and they all of a sudden wanted the same deal or better. So the Yankees pulled their offer. And before anyone says it's his agent, bullshit, your agent works for you. If he went along with Boras' antics then he is to blame. A player who asks for an obscene amount of money that then goes and wants more after being offered what he wanted in the first place is just wrong. And I know that is Boras doing that, but like I said you hired the man and you had the decision to accept that offer. I was hoping he ended up signing for much, much less, ala Latrell Spreewell after that stunt. Baseball needs to seriously change it's way of doing business. If a player like Choo is getting close to 20 million per year this sport will be in the toilet soon. I thought we had made some headway the last few years with contracts not going crazy, but the past couple years it has gotten out of hand again.
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Right , the reds and most all MLB teams were only willing to give Choo maybe 5 years. He wanted Ellsbury or better contract. When Ellsbury and Cano go for so high, with Boras as his agent you know he was going to maximize as much as he could. These guys can't have their ego hurt. Choo probably felt he is as good or better than Ellsbury.

The contracts have been going up and up and you can thank the Yankees for that. They consistently overpay and drive the market up.
 
Patrick Bateman said:
Right , the reds and most all MLB teams were only willing to give Choo maybe 5 years. He wanted Ellsbury or better contract. When Ellsbury and Cano go for so high, with Boras as his agent you know he was going to maximize as much as he could. These guys can't have their ego hurt. Choo probably felt he is as good or better than Ellsbury.

The contracts have been going up and up and you can thank the Yankees for that. They consistently overpay and drive the market up.
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I have no problem with him for asking for the money in the first place, even though I think it's too much. My point was he got what he asked for and then reneged on it.
 
You mean all these posts are about Choo? I expected to hear the culmination of the Matt Kemp trade to the Reds.
 
ME80 said:
You mean all these posts are about Choo? I expected to hear the culmination of the Matt Kemp trade to the Reds.
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Yeah, my sources are telling me that the Dodgers want Corky Miller in return. They feel that the mustache brings positive energy, so it's pretty much a done deal. :D
 

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