College Basketball Rule Changes

[KJ's#1Supporter]

When do they meet to talk about things like the charge circle, shot clock, 3 pt line, # of TO, etc?

I'd like to see defensive 3 seconds as well. Learning how to play like that can really help players understand how to attack the basket and play with space around the perimeter.

 

[JasonS]

When do they meet to talk about things like the charge circle, shot clock, 3 pt line, # of TO, etc?

I'd like to see defensive 3 seconds as well. Learning how to play like that can really help players understand how to attack the basket and play with space around the perimeter.

It would be one more thing for the refs to consistently fuck up. LOL

 

[jacobkdoyle]

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 20 minutes ago
Men's basketball is likely heading toward reducing its shot clock from 35 to 30 seconds, chair of NCAA rules committee tells @ESPNAndyKatz.

Thoughts?

It's a start. Not the only fix needed though imo.

 

[the_one_32]

I'd like to see the hand check called more as well. If we are able to see freedom of movement for offensive players the game looks so much better and fluid.

 

[IABearcat]

I'd like to see the hand check called more as well. If we are able to see freedom of movement for offensive players the game looks so much better and fluid.

Yup it's all about freedom of movement for me. I don't think the shot clock going to 30s will change too much gameplay wise.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/college-basketball-just-got-better-195658621.html

Looks like these changes are likely coming.

I'm not really in favor of reducing 2nd half timeouts to 3. Putting some of our views on Davis' unwillingness to call TO in the first half aside, I personally like saving some timeouts in case a game is real close down the stretch. Some first halves don't warrant needing to call two timeouts and in my opinion that might slow the average game down more because every coach now will call 2 timeouts in the first half. Teams don't always use all their timeouts in a game but I can't recall a game where a team doesn't use one they will lose if not used in the first half.

I'm also kind of iffy on the not allowing a coach to call a live-ball timeout. I get where if a player gets trapped its kind of unfair for a coach to call a timeout, but sometimes the player under duress can't get his hands in a position to call a timeout. And now such situations will be left in the hands of another player to call a timeout and with one less now down the stretch I could easily see situations where a not-so-bball IQ smart player calls a timeout in a situation where you don't really want to burn one. I'd rather have my coach seeing a play develop and knowing if there's a need to call a timeout than some of my players.

I do really like the 30 second shot clock and the extended no charge zone, although I think a more appropriate ruling should be once a player makes his move to the basket you can't step in and take a charge. I think the NBA uses this interpretation more. I've seen plenty of charges taken in the mid-range area so moving it out a foot won't change much.

As for more player movement freedom I'll believe it when I see it. That's still up to the discretion of the officials.

 

[BCM]

"and adjusting media timeout procedures." is the one that has me most curious. There most certainly won't be LESS of these, they need to get theirs somehow.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-bas...shot-clock-30-seconds-rules-committee-meeting

 

[L-T]

A shot clock reduction may cause Mick to ramp up his focus on defense even more. If he can make the other team waste a lot of time getting into their offense, it will leave virtually no time for them to get a good shot off.

I think we're hoping that the new rule speeds up our offense and gets us away from walking the ball up the court, but it might have the opposite effect of leading to us focusing even more on the defensive side of the ball.

Just a thought....lol....but I like the changes generally speaking. The game has become more boring than it once was....especially in Cincinnati. Anything to speed things up is a positive.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25208764/ncaa-officially-votes-switch-to-30-second-shot-clock-fewer-timeouts

Looks like it is official

30-second shot clock
4 timeouts instead of 5, only three carry over to 2nd half
4 arc around rim instead of 3 for the no charge zone


Not really a fan of the reduced timeouts but I do like that if a timeout is called within 30 seconds of a media timeout it becomes the media timeout.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

A shot clock reduction may cause Mick to ramp up his focus on defense even more. If he can make the other team waste a lot of time getting into their offense, it will leave virtually no time for them to get a good shot off.

I think we're hoping that the new rule speeds up our offense and gets us away from walking the ball up the court, but it might have the opposite effect of leading to us focusing even more on the defensive side of the ball.

Just a thought....lol....but I like the changes generally speaking. The game has become more boring than it once was....especially in Cincinnati. Anything to speed things up is a positive.

I agree that it will help defensive minded teams. I think it would urge a team to press the ball more coming up the court. I think in the short term it might cause for some uglier basketball, but I think long term it might force teams (and hopefully us) to push the tempo some on offense. I honestly have always wondered if the reason we walk the ball up and don't push the tempo is because we exert so much energy on defense that we use our time in transition to offense to catch our breath. I personally don't have a huge problem with the slower tempo, I just want better efficiency. To me if you're pushing things, I would accept more mistakes/to's and some uglier shots. When you take your time to get the best shot, I expect you to be more efficient. Last year we were a little more efficient, although our to's were too high, but we aren't where we need to be yet.

 

[BCM]

if a timeout is called within 30 seconds of a media timeout it becomes the media timeout.

College basketball is saved.

 

[LaxCat31]

Interesting note that the Women's College Basketball committee is choosing to make the game 4 quarters instead of 2 twenty minute halves. I think that idea would be good for the men's game as well.

 

[#BearcatNation]

Interesting note that the Women's College Basketball committee is choosing to make the game 4 quarters instead of 2 twenty minute halves. I think that idea would be good for the men's game as well.

Meh. It doesn't need to be just like the NBA. It's nice to have some differences.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

Meh. It doesn't need to be just like the NBA. It's nice to have some differences.

Agreed.

 

[JasonS]

Meh. It doesn't need to be just like the NBA. It's nice to have some differences.

I disagree. HS is quarters. The NBA is quarters. Why two halves? Plus, you go to quarters and you eliminate some of the TV timeouts and improve the game flow. I think it's a great idea actually.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

I disagree. HS is quarters. The NBA is quarters. Why two halves? Plus, you go to quarters and you eliminate some of the TV timeouts and improve the game flow. I think it's a great idea actually.

IF that's true, I would go for it. But I bet one quarter would have 2 media timeouts, and the other would have 1 (like NBA). And with the end of the quarter break, it would end up being the same thing.

 

[JasonS]

IF that's true, I would go for it. But I bet one quarter would have 2 media timeouts, and the other would have 1 (like NBA). And with the end of the quarter break, it would end up being the same thing.

You could do 1 per quarter after the 5 minute mark and it takes you from 8 a game to 4. TV still gets their time with quarter breaks. Also, you will see better play at the end of quarters because there will be more opportunities AND you may see teams actually go 2 for 1 which should happen every time at end of game situations.

 

[jacobkdoyle]

You could do 1 per quarter after the 5 minute mark and it takes you from 8 a game to 4.

That would be awesome. I just don't see it happening.

you may see teams actually go 2 for 1 which should happen every time at end of game situations.

This is one of the things I can't understand about college basketball. It really isn't that hard of a concept.

 

[david aka the TYZ]

I think they should go to TV timeout every five anyway instead of four. Unfortunately TV pays the bills these days. I don't mind halves instead of quarters. No need to disrupt the flow of the game three times. I guess part of it would depend on how long the breaks in between quarters would be. I guess the rule change where if a team calls a timeout within 30 seconds of a looming timeout it turns into the media timeout. This might eliminate a few TV breaks here and there. Weren't they talking too about eliminating the one minute "free timeout" when a player fouls out to replace the player? I didn't hear if was changed or not. I guess eliminating a timeout for each team will reduce total stoppages too. I'm not a fan of this rule change mostly just because in a close game it's nice to have some down the stretch. My biggest problem with all the timeouts really is just the downtime in the game. Football is worse though, they take TV timeouts ALL THE TIME.